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[bmk1245]

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

[...] First the money. Then I start building.[...]

Take a loan, buy Keshe's generator, sell electricity, return loan, From now on you will "generate" profit. Voilà.

[kumaran]

bmk1245, on 16 May 2012 - 08:04 AM, said:

Take a loan, buy Keshe's generator, sell electricity, return loan, From now on you will "generate" profit. Voilà.

There is the problem with shipping it to mycountry. I will have to arrange for shipping and I dont know about the governments of my countrys laws regarding the generator. So first I have to leave where I am staying and relocate so I can be close to the free energy and antigravity people first. Then I can buy their generators.

Edited by kumaran, 16 May 2012 - 09:16 AM.

[bmk1245]

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 09:16 AM, said:

There is the problem with shipping it to mycountry. I will have to arrange for shipping and I dont know about the governments of my countrys laws regarding the generator. [...]

Not a problem, you can find someone with abilities to materialize objects (don't mind it's called BS, cause, you know, government conspiracy, etc) from thin air: Masters should be able dematerialize generator in Belgium and rematerialize it in your place of choice)

Edit: missing word.

Edited by bmk1245, 16 May 2012 - 10:05 AM.

[kumaran]

bmk1245, on 16 May 2012 - 10:04 AM, said:

Not a problem, you can find someone with abilities to materialize objects (don't mind it's called BS, cause, you know, government conspiracy, etc) from thin air: Masters should be able dematerialize generator in Belgium and rematerialize it in your place of choice)

Edit: missing word.

You can joke all you want but free energy and antigravity are real regardless and once I have enough money I will prove it.

[bmk1245]

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

You can joke all you want but free energy and antigravity are real regardless and once I have enough money I will prove it.

Joking?

Anyway, you can start with schematics provided by psyche. Its working isn't it? Why you don't want build it? Its very easy, all parts are available. Just build it, instead of whining.

[kumaran]

bmk1245, on 16 May 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

Joking?

Anyway, you can start with schematics provided by psyche. Its working isn't it? Why you don't want build it? Its very easy, all parts are available. Just build it, instead of whining.

If you wamt you build it. I will build it when I want. I believe LENR, water powered cars and antigravity are all possible. LENR has been proven by Rossi and several other scientists. Just because the mainstream scientific community cannot accept it dosent mean it dosent work. Like Arthur C Clarke says "If a highly respected and well-established authority tells you something is possible, then he is probably right; if he tells you something is impossible, he is probably wrong". Nothing is impossible.

Read more: http://www.answers.c...w#ixzz1v24iHNzZ

[bmk1245]

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

If you wamt you build it. I will build it when I want. I believe LENR, water powered cars and antigravity are all possible. LENR has been proven by Rossi and several other scientists. Just because the mainstream scientific community cannot accept it dosent mean it dosent work. Like Arthur C Clarke says "If a highly respected and well-established authority tells you something is possible, then he is probably right; if he tells you something is impossible, he is probably wrong". Nothing is impossible.

Read more: http://www.answers.c...w#ixzz1v24iHNzZ

Wait a sec. You told you want to make money. Did you, or did not?! So, I'm suggesting easiest way to do it: build one and you will not have to pay to evil companies for electricity. On money you will save on electric bills you can build another one, and sell to neighbors. And so on, and so on... In short time you will be able to buy dozen Keshe's generators, and open your own electric company. Afterwards (in few years) you are a rich man, able to build spaceship (with Keshe, of course). So again, build it.

[kumaran]

bmk1245, on 16 May 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

Wait a sec. You told you want to make money. Did you, or did not?! So, I'm suggesting easiest way to do it: build one and you will not have to pay to evil companies for electricity. On money you will save on electric bills you can build another one, and sell to neighbors. And so on, and so on... In short time you will be able to buy dozen Keshe's generators, and open your own electric company. Afterwards (in few years) you are a rich man, able to build spaceship (with Keshe, of course). So again, build it.

Where do I get the money to build the first one? I believe LENR, water powered cars and antigravity is possible. For the moment I will have to be content with giving moral support. Once I have enough money then I can start building. If I had the money I would have paid the down-payment on the Keshe generator.

Edited by kumaran, 16 May 2012 - 12:46 PM.

[bmk1245]

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:

Where do I get the money to build the first one?[...]

Electronics ain't that complex and many things you can find in scrapyard for a dime. After you build few, you will be able to buy Keshe's generator(s). Simple.

[kumaran]

bmk1245, on 16 May 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

Electronics ain't that complex and many things you can find in scrapyard for a dime. After you build few, you will be able to buy Keshe's generator(s). Simple.

I dont have the brains for electronics. I havent tried studying it. If I could I would build it. That is why I admire those who build these free energy and antigravity machines. They are such geniuses.

[bmk1245]

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

I dont have the brains for electronics. I havent tried studying it.[...]

Never too late to learn. Especially nowadays, with tones of real info, tutorials, etc available.

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

[...]That is why I admire those who build these free energy and antigravity machines. They are such geniuses.

Sorry for disappointing you, but some of them are simply morons.

[psyche101]

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

You are entitled to your opinion.

I have not based responses with regards to energy generation on opinion thank you very much. It just happens to be my field. I thought you had a problem with charlatans, but now I think you might even be paid by some of these charlatans to spread disinformation. You and Keshe have had much electronic contact, perhaps even personal as well. SImply put I do not trust you and am considering the likelihood that you are on the Keshe team, and have been all along. You initial response was just a ruse the get the thread going wasn't it? Were the suicide threats that you publicly issued to Keshe preempted?

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

But as far as I am concerned I support LENR, water power, antigravity , magnet motors and all the other exotic ideas.

Even though you have been shown the flaws and that research has been happening for decades without a product still? The more I read your posts, the more likely it seems the you are recruiting for Keshe. We have working technologies, even new ones like Blue Gen, which you failed to notice. I thought that was a it rude seeming as you claim to be interested in new technologies. Why have you nothing to say on that? It works and is in production, is it another technology you wish to stifle?

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

If I had money I would invest it in such ideas. As soon as I get a sizable income I intend to set up an institute to help these fringe ideas to flourish because i believe in them.

I believe that is a lie, you could get most of the gear you need for the Stan Meyer patens from the tip as bmk told you. You have no intention of making anything, you just want people to think you had some epiphany, and that you can support the reasons why, when that is not the case is it?

Set up an institute, yet you cannot raise the dollars to make Stan Meyers patent? How is anyone supposed to believe that? Was that one Keshe's idea or yours?

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

You spend your money on solar but I support the scientists with exotic ideas.

And you are trying to convince others to avoid working technologies to support this nonsense. There are few reasons you would do so, and none of them honest ones.

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

I cannot accept antigravity as impossible.

Why. You cannot even explain how gravity works!!!!!!

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

Once I get enough money I will fund Searl and also the MEC. I will use the MEC the russian version of the searl effect. I will try to build a machine. First the money. Then I start building. I am not against solar or any alternatives but they will never solve the energy problem. Ideas like LENR and magnet motors will solve these problems. I believe in LENR as the first free energy product to market.

Yes you are, you keep trying to promote Keshe and Rossi. Dick Smith HAS the money and he approached Rossi. Rossi ran and hid from him. You refuse to answer why. The patent I gave you is something you could start on right now, but you never will.


How much energy has Solar, Wind and Hydro generated to date?

By comparison

How much energy has LENR produced to date?

See! Again you are lying! Solar has been a massive success in all of Germany, and it is following suit in Australia. Hydro power runs entire cities all over the world. It s solving the worlds problems while scammers fleece the population with long winded promises so that they never have to work a day in their lives. Where is LENR? How many cities is it running? How many LENR units are feeding free power back into the grids? People like you are the reasons people are so suspicious of such failing technologies, and yes, they do fail, 50 years on the drawing board without a single reproducible result is a failure in my book. As long as people are not honest about LENR, it's reputation will continue to decline. I think your argument for LENR is a good reason to shut down R&D associated with it.

[psyche101]

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

I dont have the brains for electronics. I havent tried studying it. If I could I would build it. That is why I admire those who build these free energy and antigravity machines. They are such geniuses.

Nothing too exotic here





Dick Smith electronics would be able to get all this of the shelf I expect. Cost woud be minimal.

[psyche101]

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

You can joke all you want but free energy and antigravity are real regardless and once I have enough money I will prove it.

What are you going to do about Earnshaw's theorem and Gauss law?

Money is not going to help you overcome those problems when you start on your electrogravatic devices!

[Slave2Fate]

kumaran, on 16 May 2012 - 07:52 AM, said:

Gravity is inked to electromagnetism. Study electrogravitics and you will realise it. Website is http://jnaudin.free....eticsValone.pdf . Its real and proven as far as I am concerned. Electrogravitics is antigravity. It is the electromagnetic manipulation of gravity.

Overcoming gravity through the use of electromagnetism is still not antigravity. If that were the case then aerodynamics (flight) or rocket propulsion would also be forms of antigravity...they are not. Just because something 'floats' (or propels itself away from the Earth) doesn't mean it has anything to do with antigravity. Again, simply overcoming the effect of gravity is not the same as antigravity.

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Anti-gravity is the idea of creating a place or object that is free from the force of gravity. It does not refer to the lack of weight under gravity experienced in free fall or orbit, or to balancing the force of gravity with some other force, such as electromagnetism or aerodynamic lift.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Anti-gravity