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#1486    Hasina

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:24 PM

Allow me to check the moon...
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:36 PM

This is, what NASA calls "live video feed":
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Original video (Spacecraft Films, leč NASA videa jsou Public Domain) there:
http://ulozto.cz/xhy...ag-ceremony-wmv

So, from when "live video" contains cuts to another, differently set, camera? On the Moon should be a) only one TV cam on the Rover and not two, b) in live video is impossible to have cuts!

Of course, there can be people that close their eyes and claim they did not see a thing :D Of course, this video is not for them, these don't see start in night, much less on the Moon :)




Of course I doubt that these sheeple see, that the flag is waving without being touched by anyone and what is worser, it first move away from astroNOT... and that hardly can be explained differently that by the air pressure and we all know that air is not on the Moon:

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Another longer look at the flag is there:
http://www.picturesh...g_movement2.gif

Original video here:
http://ulozto.cz/xpG...ag-movement-wmv

Of course, there are already a 6 (!) suggested (laughable at least) attempts to explain such movement, but all failed when tested, as here is well shown:




Czero 101 - if you did not only start name calling and actually bother to elaborate on evidence presented, then your reply had some meaning. Without arguments in your posts it is only you, who is trolling ;)

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:39 PM

View PostHasina, on 29 December 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

Allow me to check the moon...
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There are countries that have done it for us.

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SELENE photographs



In 2008, the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) SELENE lunar probe obtained several photographs showing evidence of Moon landings.[23] On the left are two photos taken on the lunar surface by Apollo 15 astronauts in July or August 1971. On the right is a 2008 reconstruction from images taken by the SELENE terrain camera and 3-D projected to the same vantage point as the surface photos. The terrain is a close match within the SELENE camera resolution of 10 meters


Chandrayaan-1

As with SELENE, the Terrain Mapping Camera of India's Chandrayaan-1 probe did not have enough resolution to record Apollo hardware. Nevertheless, as with SELENE, Chandrayaan-1 independently recorded evidence of lighter, disturbed soil around the Apollo 15 site.


Observers of all missions

The Soviet Union monitored the missions at their Space Transmissions Corps, which was "fully equipped with the latest intelligence-gathering and surveillance equipment". Vasily Mishin ("The Moon Programme That Faltered."), in Spaceflight. 33 (March 1991), pages 2–3 describes how the Soviet Moon programme lost energy after the Apollo landing.The missions were tracked by radar from several countries on the way to the Moon and back.


The NASA Manned Space Flight Network (MSFN) was a world-wide network of stations that tracked the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and Skylab missions. Most MSFN stations were only needed during the launch, Earth orbit and landing phases of the lunar missions, but three "deep space" sites with larger antennas provided continuous coverage during the trans-lunar, trans-earth and lunar mission phases. Today, these three sites form the NASA Deep Space Network: the Goldstone Deep Space Communications Complex near Goldstone, California; the Madrid Deep Space Communication Complex near Madrid, Spain; and the Canberra Deep Space Communication Complex, in Tidbinbilla, near Canberra, Australia.

Although most MSFN stations were NASA-owned, they employed many local citizens. NASA also contracted the Parkes Observatory in New South Wales, Australia, to supplement the three deep space sites, most famously during the Apollo 11 EVA as documented in Publications of the Astronomical Society of Australia and portrayed (humorously and not quite accurately) in the movie The Dish. The Parkes Observatory is not NASA-owned; it is, and always has been, owned and operated by the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO), a research agency of the Australian government.


Apollo 11
  • The Bochum Observatory director (Professor Heinz Kaminski) was able to provide confirmation of events and data independent of both the Russian and U.S. space agencies.
  • A compilation of sightings appeared in "Observations of Apollo 11" in Sky and Telescope magazine, November 1969, pp. 358–359.
  • The Madrid Apollo Station, part of the Deep Space Network, built in Fresnedillas, near Madrid, Spain tracked Apollo 11.
  • Goldstone Tracking Station in California tracked Apollo 11.
  • At Jodrell Bank Observatory in the UK, the telescope was used to observe the mission, as it was used years previously for Sputnik. At the same time, Jodrell Bank scientists were tracking the unmanned Soviet spacecraft Luna 15, which was trying to land on the Moon. In July 2009, Jodrell released some recordings they made.
  • Larry Baysinger, a technician for WHAS radio in Louisville, Kentucky, independently detected and recorded transmissions between Apollo 11 astronauts on the lunar surface and in the command module.Recordings made by Baysinger share certain characteristics with recordings made at Bochum Observatory by Heinz Kaminski (see above), in that both Kaminski's and Baysinger's recordings do not include the capsule communicator in Houston and the associated Quindar tones heard in NASA audio and seen on NASA Apollo 11 transcripts. Kaminski and Baysinger could only hear the transmissions from the Moon, and not transmissions to the Moon from the earth.


Apollo 12

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Surveyor 3 camera brought back from the Moon by Apollo 12, on display at the National Air and Space Museum

Paul Maley reports several sightings of the Apollo 12 Command Module. Parts of Surveyor 3, which landed on the Moon in April 1967, were brought back to Earth by Apollo 12 in November 1969. These samples were shown to have been exposed to lunar conditions.


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:40 PM

View Posttrodas, on 29 December 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Czero 101 - if you did not only start name calling and actually bother to elaborate on evidence presented, then your reply had some meaning. Without arguments in your posts it is only you, who is trolling ;)
There's an entire thread devoted to just this topic.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:40 PM

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Edited by Iron_Lotus, 29 December 2012 - 06:40 PM.


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:41 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 29 December 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

There are countries that have done it for us.
Then I can't make 'PCHOO' noises though D:

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:44 PM

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Guys! Somebody stolen our rock from the scene! Damn you, one did not even have time to turn and... rock is gone! WTF! :clap:

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:45 PM

View Posttrodas, on 29 December 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:






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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:48 PM

View PostIron_Lotus, on 29 December 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

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It is laugable that Apollo hoax people presented nothing that proves an Apollo moon hoax when there are countries that have tracked and photographed the Apollo landing sites.

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Edited by skyeagle409, 29 December 2012 - 06:49 PM.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:49 PM

Hasina - yep, but that one I find was locked and this one should be more FUN :yes:  Because - basically - this is laughable :ph34r:



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Temperature at the Moon in daylight near equator: 134°C - http://lro.gsfc.nasa.../moonfacts.html
Places, where Apollo supposedly landed (AS16 near equator) - http://latenightastr...nding-sites.jpg
Original image - http://www.hq.nasa.g...117-18841HR.jpg

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:53 PM

View Posttrodas, on 29 December 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Czero 101 - if you did not only start name calling and actually bother to elaborate on evidence presented, then your reply had some meaning. Without arguments in your posts it is only you, who is trolling

Well, the mere fact that you started this brand new thread without even noticing the other thread discussing this topic - and I know it was so cleverly hidden by being called "Did we land on the Moon" - and started posting this willfully ignorant, intellectually lazy and factually incorrect garbage, you announced to us your trolling nature and intent and showed us all just how complete your lack of subject matter knowledge, research skills, critical thinking skills and logic you are.

Any further response to this garbage would be pointless.



Have a good day / week / life / whatever.






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EDITED to add the link to the CURENTLY ACTIVE AND UNLOCKED thread discussing the Moon landing hoax...

Edited by Czero 101, 29 December 2012 - 06:59 PM.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:53 PM

View Posttrodas, on 29 December 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Hasina - yep, but that one I find was locked and this one should be more FUN :yes:  Because - basically - this is laughable :ph34r:



Magicaly durable PVC bag and picture in it :D

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Temperature at the Moon in daylight near equator: 134°C - http://lro.gsfc.nasa.../moonfacts.html
Places, where Apollo supposedly landed (AS16 near equator) - http://latenightastr...nding-sites.jpg
Original image - http://www.hq.nasa.g...117-18841HR.jpg

What do you think we have used to vacuum bag and cook aircraft honeycomb  repairs at over 250 degrees? Speaking of Apollo 16.


Apollo 16

Jewett Observatory at Washington State University reported sightings of Apollo 16.
Honeysuckle Creek tracked Apollo 16 and recorded the audio of the landing.

At least two different radio amateurs, W4HHK and K2RIW, reported reception of Apollo 16 signals with home-built equipment.

Sternwarte Bochum Observatory in Germany tracked the astronauts and intercepted the television signals from Apollo 16. The image was re-recorded in black and white in the 625 lines, 25 frames/s television standard onto 2-inch videotape using their sole quad machine. The transmissions are only of the astronauts and do not contain any voice from Houston, as the signal received came from the Moon only. The videotapes are held in storage at the observatory

Edited by skyeagle409, 29 December 2012 - 06:54 PM.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:53 PM

View Posttrodas, on 29 December 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Hasina - yep, but that one I find was locked and this one should be more FUN :yes:  Because - basically - this is laughable
Too true! What's that saying Einstein said about doing the same thing over and over and expecting the same results? But did you read the entire thing to make sure you're not just rehashing old points?

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:01 PM

View Posttrodas, on 29 December 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

Experiment to test, if you can in the simulator of lunar regolith that NASA selling in it's latest version as JSC-1A leave so distinct and deep prints (even with the aid of moisture, that on Moon is obviously absent on the Sun sude at leasti) from boots. The aim was to create as nice imprints, as astroNOTs allegedly leaved on the surface of the Moon:

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http://nssdc.gsfc.na..._h_40_5878.html

LOL! Can't be done. Where comrades from NASA failed there? :rofl:

Originals of pictures from Jarrah White: http://i923.photobuc...cz/DSC_1736.jpg http://i923.photobuc...cz/DSC_1737.jpg
video from the experiment:
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The Apollo Moon Footprint Experiment



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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:02 PM

skyeagle409 - you mean the tracks, that are allegedly photographed by the very same NASA that claim it can got to the Moon back in 1969 and now it can't get Man even to LEO orbit of Earth? ROFL!
I mean - these tracks aren't here in the first place and are actually missing in many of the LRO photos (Photoshopping is hard work...), but this is nothing new :)


Rover ride on the Moon w/o leaving tracks - damn, it can fly! :D

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( http://spaceflight1....7-137-20979.jpg )

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( http://upload.wikime...5LunarRover.jpg )
( http://theflatearths...-88-11902HR.jpg )

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( http://www.hq.nasa.g...143-21932HR.jpg )

( http://apolloanomali...sing_tracks.htm )
( http://www.aulis.com...er_findings.htm )
( http://theflatearths...nbuggy_Problems )

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