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UFOs with Speeds up to 27,000 MPH

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#256    TheMacGuffin

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 05:41 PM

View Postmcrom901, on 01 December 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

can you point out these 'severe flaws'?

http://www.abovetops...hread416758/pg1


I have already posted the same links to Koi's article for those who are interested.


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 05:45 PM

As Koi points out, among other problems, if you intend to explain UFOs as atmospheric plasmas, then you have to consider the weather conditions, seasons and so on.


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 05:46 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 01 December 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

There are numerous flaws with this Condign Report, although there is hardly enough space to mention them all here.

and i suspect that you have taken the trouble to look up the databases for scientific literature to back up said claims? remember that the condign report is more than a decade old... have you checked what percentage of the 'claims' have been validated by recent research? or are you just going to google and ctrl ^c ctrl ^ v unverified data ad nauseam?


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 05:51 PM

View Postmcrom901, on 01 December 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

and i suspect that you have taken the trouble to look up the databases for scientific literature to back up said claims? remember that the condign report is more than a decade old... have you checked what percentage of the 'claims' have been validated by recent research? or are you just going to google and ctrl ^c ctrl ^ v unverified data ad nauseam?

You are the one who has posted that Condign Report on here a few times, not me.  All I have done is reply with links to one of its main critics and debunkers.

It was flawed in its data, methodology and conclusions, and that's all I have to say about it.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 01 December 2012 - 05:52 PM.


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 05:52 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 01 December 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

As Koi points out, among other problems, if you intend to explain UFOs as atmospheric plasmas, then you have to consider the weather conditions, seasons and so on.

prerequisites? based on our understanding regarding misinterpretations about lightning requirements? what weather conditions?


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 05:54 PM

View Postmcrom901, on 01 December 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

prerequisites? based on our understanding regarding misinterpretations about lightning requirements? what weather conditions?

Are you claiming to be some kind of expert in this field?


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 05:55 PM

http://www.shaktitec...om/tectonic.htm


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 05:57 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 01 December 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

Are you claiming to be some kind of expert in this field?

answer the specific questions asked... :passifier:


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 05:57 PM

View Postmcrom901, on 01 December 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:


What does that mean?  Are you claiming to be Dr. M.A. Persinger?


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:00 PM

All I know is that whenever I start posting all this information about UFOs from the past, you jump on here again and again with the Condign Report and your UAPs and plasmas.


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:02 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 01 December 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

What does that mean?  Are you claiming to be Dr. M.A. Persinger?

no, it doesn't mean that... i hadn't seen your question prior posting that link... if you read it, you will see that other configs are capable of inducing said phenomenon


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:05 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 01 December 2012 - 06:00 PM, said:

All I know is that whenever I start posting all this information about UFOs from the past, you jump on here again and again with the Condign Report and your UAPs and plasmas.

and you believe that regurgitating outdated data means anything? or do you believe that the 'cover-up' automatically translates to et?

Edited by mcrom901, 01 December 2012 - 06:06 PM.


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:09 PM

View Postmcrom901, on 01 December 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

or do you believe that the 'cover-up' automatically translates to et?

Yes, of course I do.


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:13 PM

View Postmcrom901, on 01 December 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

and you believe that regurgitating outdated data means anything? or do you believe that the 'cover-up' automatically translates to et?


Since this thread that I started is about the New Mexico UFOs of the 1940s and 1950s, Project Twinkle, White Sands and so on, my posts are a lot more relevant to the subject than Project Condign and all that, which have only a very tenuous connection (at best) to my thread.

I notice that you almost never respond to any of the UFO cases I have posted on here, except to dismiss them out of hand.  I did not start this thread to discuss Project Condign and plasmas.  If you want to do that, then please start your own thread.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 01 December 2012 - 06:19 PM.


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:02 PM

View Postmcrom901, on 01 December 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

hiya bee... the data is insufficient to reach any definitive conclusion regarding what they might have been... it's the certainties put forward by mcg that i'm questioning... whether it be ruling out natural phenomenon or the certainty that they were nuts and bolts spacecraft under the guise of plasma glow... anyways, natural plasma formations have been observed repeatedly displaying all these unique attributes which are considered to be otherworldly... unfortunately most of said data wasn't available back in the days when natural phenomenon was being ruled out... other than that i haven't seen any data which suggests anything otherwise... :)


hi mcrom....ok...from your previous statement I thought you thought you might know what was going on.

You seem to be saying you don't know what's going on and you don't think anyone else does/did either?

Fair enough, if that is your opinion :)






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