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The Beatles didn't spark a musical revolution


Still Waters

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When The Beatles burst onto the US music scene with "I Want To Hold Your Hand" in February 1964 they were credited with sparking a British Invasion across The Atlantic.

Within just a few months they held all top five spots on the Billboard Hot 100 List - a feat which has never been repeated - and the American music press, which once derided Beatlemania, now could not get enough of the Fab Four.

http://www.telegraph...in-America.html

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I was 11.5 years old and my friends 14 year old sister got us into the Beatles. It was my first step into popular music...I was enthralled...it all seemed somehow magical. It was a great time to be alive and young.

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LOL, wait a minute now!

I was a brat young man when they first played the Sullivan Show. I remember my 2 older sisters going on and on about them coming over here. What a sensation they were! Everyone was watching the TV that Sunday night. I wanted all the girls in the audience to take it down a notch so we could hear them play.

I even bought a "Beatle wig" and boots! LOL

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I was born in 64 so don't remember that show. I was born to teenaged parents and the Beatles were a huge part of the soundtrack to my young life. To say they didn't spark a music revolution is simply revisionist. Before Meet the Beatles was released it was unheard of for any artist to release an album of entirely original music. Not even the King ever did that. After Meet the Beatles it was pretty much standard practice. Sounds revolutionary to me. Not to mention the Beatles constantly innovative song writing totally changed the sound of modern music in just a few short years.

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Nothing was the same after the Beatles came on the scene... Nothing...

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It was a time, and a place... the Beatles revolutionised the music scene, and continued doing so for a decade and a half. Their music evolved whilst other artists stayed with what they knew.

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Well it is the Telegraph........... :td:

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"Speak to anyone who was a young person in the US when The Beatles arrived and they will tell you how much of a revolution it was," he said.

"They were there and they will tell you that the Beatles revolutionised everything."

From the OP's link.

But according to the researchers it is Hip Hop that has had the biggest impact on US music in the last 50 years, with the genre dominating the charts since the early 90s.

From the OP's link.

How unfortunate for every living human being that this genre of "music" was ever created at all.

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How unfortunate for every living human being that this genre of "music" was ever created at all.

LOL! Your age is showing.
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First played down the road from me by Carroll James. When I worked in Radio I heard this story first-hand from my father who knew Mr. James well (I was not born yet when all this happened but my siblings all were - they are 10+ years older than me)

EMI and Brian Epstein finally convinced American label Capitol Records, a subsidiary of EMI, that the Beatles could make an impact in the US, leading to the release of "I Want to Hold Your Hand" with "I Saw Her Standing There" on the B-Side as a single on 26 December 1963. Capitol had previously resisted issuing Beatle recordings in the US. This resulted in the relatively modest Vee-Jay and Swan labels releasing the group's earlier Parlophone counterparts in the US. Seizing the opportunity, Epstein demanded US$40,000 from Capitol to promote the single (the most the Beatles had ever previously spent on an advertising campaign was US$5,000). The single had actually been intended for release in mid-January 1964, coinciding with the planned appearance of the Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show. However, a 14-year-old fan of the Beatles, Marsha Albert, was determined to get hold of the single earlier.[23] Later she said: “ It wasn't so much what I had seen, it's what I had heard. They had a scene where they played a clip of 'She Loves You' and I thought it was a great song ... I wrote that I thought the Beatles would be really popular here, and if [deejay Carroll James] could get one of their records, that would really be great.[24]

James was the DJ for WWDC, a radio station in Washington, DC. Eventually he decided to pursue Albert's suggestion to him and asked the station's promotion director to get British Overseas Airways Corporation to ship in a copy of "I Want to Hold Your Hand" from Britain. Albert related what happened next: "Carroll James called me up the day he got the record and said 'If you can get down here by 5 o'clock, we'll let you introduce it.'" Albert managed to get to the station in time, and introduced the record with: "Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time on the air in the United States, here are the Beatles singing 'I Want to Hold Your Hand.'"[23]

Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Want_to_Hold_Your_Hand

This is more about Carroll James. According to my father he was a great guy! http://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/29/arts/carroll-james-jr-disk-jockey-early-backer-of-beatles-was-60.html

My father had a sports show at another Radio station across town WINX and all these guys were very close back then :yes:

Thanks for the memories Still Waters :)

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snapback.pngStarMountainKid, on 06 May 2015 - 06:12 PM, said:

How unfortunate for every living human being that this genre of "music" was ever created at all.

LOL! Your age is showing.

No, it is not my age. It is my compassion for human sensibilities and virtues that form this correct assessment of the subject.

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No, it is not my age. It is my compassion for human sensibilities and virtues that form this correct assessment of the subject.

You mean the Hip Hop music Star? Yea some of that is pretty rude and vulgar. I can't believe some of the words that go into songs sometimes :no: What's your favorite type of music? Oh and I *do* think the Beatles absolutely sparked a music revolution; along with other bands but they were one of the first :yes:
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No musician in the history of music has ever fully created a completely "new" sound. Everything is built upon what came before. That includes the Beatles. But that doesn't mean the Beatles didn't begin a music revolution. I suggest we leave music analysis to music and scientific analysis to science, the two don't really belong together.

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ou mean the Hip Hop music Star? Yea some of that is pretty rude and vulgar. I can't believe some of the words that go into songs sometimes :no: What's your favorite type of music? Oh and I *do* think the Beatles absolutely sparked a music revolution; along with other bands but they were one of the first :yes:

Yes. The term 'music' is a misnomer when speaking of Hip Hop or Rap. Anyway, as a child I loved classical music, jazz, then rock and roll and blues. I was a child in the '50s and a teenager and young adult in the '60s. I'm a musician, so my taste in music may be somewhat different than some others.

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Yes. The term 'music' is a misnomer when speaking of Hip Hop or Rap. Anyway, as a child I loved classical music, jazz, then rock and roll and blues. I was a child in the '50s and a teenager and young adult in the '60s. I'm a musician, so my taste in music may be somewhat different than some others.

COOL!! Thanks for sharing :) I love all those types of music too. I'm a jazz fan. I need to listen to more jazz again. I like Nina Simone and Louis Armstrong. I also really like Nat King Cole and his voice reminds me of my fathers. I like all sorts of music. Oh and of course the Beatles :P
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Here's the great Louie Armstrong for you, She-ra. Armstrong at his incomparable best. One of the most influential musicians of the 20th century. There is so much going on here that a cursory view will overlook. It's a study in itself of this formidable artist.

I believe Copenhagen, 1933'

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Here's one for you Star. My Daddy used to sing this to me as a little girl :) as well as many other songs.

And my father sounded SO MUCH like Nat. They had the same bass in their voice :yes:

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My dad has always been a fan of The Beatles. Even though I was born a little too late (1996), I practically grew up with Beatles' songs as my sleeping lullabies. Even now, they're my favorite band. My favorite song is 'till there was you. Good old song, never fails to bring nostalgic feelings.

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The Long and Winding Road ... still gives me the goosebumps ~ and that's just one of many ... Eleanor Rigby ... THe Beatles were songwriters first and foremost in my book ~ in terms of musical ability its Ringo that kept them on the beat ~

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The Beatles changed the world with a little help from their friends.

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You mean the Hip Hop music Star? Yea some of that is pretty rude and vulgar. I can't believe some of the words that go into songs sometimes :no: What's your favorite type of music? Oh and I *do* think the Beatles absolutely sparked a music revolution; along with other bands but they were one of the first :yes:

I quite like Hip Hop, but find Rap most depressing and repetitive. I reckon there is a lot more doom and gloom in rap, Hip Hop is more musical too, there are full musician Hip Hop bands like Australia's The Herd. Have a listen to The King is Dead or Black and Blue, or Emergency (2020 is wicked as well - love the line Lookin' back 2020 mistakes I got many, And the truth is that I'd probably do it again) by them. I think you will find them quite diverse and lighter than the cop killing lines I have heard rap artists belt out. Great foot tapping beats :D

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No musician in the history of music has ever fully created a completely "new" sound. Everything is built upon what came before. That includes the Beatles. But that doesn't mean the Beatles didn't begin a music revolution. I suggest we leave music analysis to music and scientific analysis to science, the two don't really belong together.

I honestly feel Jimi Hendrix walks that line. He changed the way a guitar is played. From a guitarist's view, I do not think anything like him existed before him. He was a sheer genius.

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