kartikg Posted September 14, 2014 #1 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Are there any secret societies which are good ? Any symbols they use? Do they wield any influence? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted September 14, 2014 #2 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Good question. Is there good in the world? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted September 14, 2014 #3 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Yes Indeed there actually many of these ! My Fav is the Willy Wonka Chocolate Eatting society. The UFO believers society ! The Unexplained Mysteries Forum !!!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skep B Posted September 14, 2014 #4 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I would argue the Illuminatti are good. Highly connected, powerful, intelligent people united to bring order to the world and lead humanity towards a better understanding of existence. Not that i believe in them, but hell, I'd support them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted September 14, 2014 #5 Share Posted September 14, 2014 "Are there any secret societies which actually exist?" Treat that subject first before you go on to decide which are good or evil. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted September 14, 2014 #6 Share Posted September 14, 2014 So, Secret Societies that we know all about? Something about that not entirely right. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted September 14, 2014 #7 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I guess you can say that a good secret society, is the society that you have never heard about ! In that case the next two questions are impossible to answer, because they are secret. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted September 14, 2014 #8 Share Posted September 14, 2014 If more than one person knows it is not a secret, if there is only one person, it's not a society. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOMBIE Posted September 14, 2014 #9 Share Posted September 14, 2014 A truly secret society would be one we all don't know about, and certainly not something like the Freemasons, which are pretty much a humanist society, and thus "good". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblykiss Posted September 14, 2014 #10 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Any society or group that actively wears Fezs is good in my book. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted September 15, 2014 #11 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Any society or group that actively wears Fezs is good in my book. ...and drive those funny little cars in parades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted September 15, 2014 #12 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Are there any secret societies which are good ? Any symbols they use? Do they wield any influence? The one I was in was great! Yes, they used lots of symbols ... most esoteric groups do. Yes, it had an influence, especially on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted September 15, 2014 #13 Share Posted September 15, 2014 "Are there any secret societies which actually exist?" Treat that subject first before you go on to decide which are good or evil. Thats actually an historical question and has already been decided ... there were and still are heaps of them. Are you saying they never existed ? ? ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted September 15, 2014 #14 Share Posted September 15, 2014 So, Secret Societies that we know all about? Something about that not entirely right. Why is that ? " Any of various oath-bound societies devoted to brotherhood (or sisterhood), moral discipline, and mutual assistance. Such societies usually conduct rituals of initiation to instruct new members in the rules of the group (see rite of passage). Greek and Roman mystery religions had their secular counterparts in clandestine social clubs, some of which served as platforms for political dissent. In West Africa secret societies such as Poro (for men) and Sande (for women) serve to translate slight advantages of wealth and prestige into political authority. In parts of New Guinea secret men's societies serve as repositories of tribal knowledge. Fraternal orders such as the Freemasons (see Freemasonry) may be considered secret societies, as may criminal groups such as the Mafia and the Chinese Triads and hate groups such as the Ku Klux Klan. " http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/secret%20society 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted September 15, 2014 #15 Share Posted September 15, 2014 If more than one person knows it is not a secret, if there is only one person, it's not a society. You guys really have the definition wrong. But I suppose you will insist you are right ... over the Merriam Webster definition ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted September 15, 2014 #16 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Any society or group that actively wears Fezs is good in my book. Edited September 15, 2014 by back to earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted September 15, 2014 #17 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Thats actually an historical question and has already been decided ... there were and still are heaps of them. Are you saying they never existed ? ? ? Yup. Because if you know about them, they AREN'T SECRET. And your claim to be part of one is highly suspect. But, carry on, it is entertaining. Edited September 15, 2014 by Thorvir Hrothgaard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted September 15, 2014 #18 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I would argue the Illuminatti are good. Highly connected, powerful, intelligent people united to bring order to the world and lead humanity towards a better understanding of existence. Not that i believe in them, but hell, I'd support them And disbanded in the 18th century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted September 15, 2014 #19 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Yup. Because if you know about them, they AREN'T SECRET. But, carry on, it is entertaining. For your self entertainment: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/secret%20society http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_society http://www.thefreedictionary.com/secret+society http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/secret+society http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/secret-society http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/secret-society But of course, you have figured out yourself there is no such thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister Posted September 15, 2014 #20 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Many secret societies are harmless but if you mean good as in "working for the betterment of mankind" that is harder to tell. I haven't heard of any, although the Freemasons did do and still continue to do some "good" work. We know they were instrumental in founding this great nation. But so much of them is secret we can't really know if they are completely "good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted September 15, 2014 #21 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Many secret societies are harmless but if you mean good as in "working for the betterment of mankind" that is harder to tell. I haven't heard of any, although the Freemasons did do and still continue to do some "good" work. We know they were instrumental in founding this great nation. But so much of them is secret we can't really know if they are completely "good". Even wiki states this : " The goals of the Illuminati were to eliminate superstition, prejudice and the domination of government, philosophy and science by the Roman Catholic Church, to reduce oppressive state abuses of power, and to support the education of women and encourage their treatment as intellectual equals." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted September 15, 2014 #22 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) The reason many keep their secrets within membership (in case any reader still hasn't figured out what 'secret society. means yet ) is that 'outside' membership can be full of uninformed and brainwashed people that are subservient to the state (or they have a stake in running the state or gaining advantage over another within the state) or just idiots full of superstition that still want witch hunts ... or ill informed conspiracy nuts. ... or people that even deny they existed due to their own misunderstood word usage. And that is ignoring the whole anthropological side of the subject ... that secret societies are a universal human cultural trait. I wonder what is behind the denial of such a widely acknowledged fact about human society throughout all time, cultures and locations ? ? ? Edited September 15, 2014 by back to earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted September 15, 2014 #23 Share Posted September 15, 2014 You guys really have the definition wrong. But I suppose you will insist you are right ... over the Merriam Webster definition ? Oh please I was making a joke. You must have constipation bad. We all know what a secret society is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted September 15, 2014 #24 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Many secret societies are harmless but if you mean good as in "working for the betterment of mankind" that is harder to tell. I haven't heard of any, although the Freemasons did do and still continue to do some "good" work. We know they were instrumental in founding this great nation. But so much of them is secret we can't really know if they are completely "good". Freemasons are fine. Both my grandfathers were members during their lives. Good, honest men. But that's not actually a real "secret" society, is it? Since we know of it's existence. We may not know all about it, lots of organizations have their "secrets"--but that fact alone doesn't make a society a "secret" one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted September 15, 2014 #25 Share Posted September 15, 2014 And your claim to be part of one is highly suspect. You are doing it again ... misreading posts, adding your own misinterpretation and then attempting to cast dispersions on what I said ... except that is not what I said .. is it ? You are casting dispersions on what you think I wrote ... and I am the one that is highly suspect am i ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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