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#31    Cassea

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:02 AM

No, its not.  It's called an old law.  Not a new law.   Thus   Drama.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:06 AM

View PostCassea, on 11 December 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

No, its not.  It's called an old law.  Not a new law.   Thus   Drama.

I think you need to think long and hard about what your own personal issues are....you have illogical fears, perhaps a professional could help you out with that...it's not drama as you seem to like to say....YOU are not better than anyone else YOU are not less likely to have had unprotected sex or less likely to be a carrier of something YOU are just more likely  perhaps to lie about it....old law, new law! who cares? because something is an old law that makes it right? no it means that new information needs to change it, or are you one of those people who feels the old ways are best lol, at least that would make laugh and not just feel sorry for you

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:17 AM

View Postbacca, on 11 December 2012 - 04:06 AM, said:

no it means that new information needs to change it, or are you one of those people who feels the old ways are best lol, at least that would make laugh and not just feel sorry for you
I think she's saying that as long as the 44% statistic is what it is then it makes economic sense not to even bother with so much potential bad blood. That's not a political statement, its a sensible economic statement. Now you can turn it into a political issue if you want but I'd rather see you stop playing psychiatrist and dispute the statistic.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:19 AM

View Postbacca, on 11 December 2012 - 04:06 AM, said:

I think you need to think long and hard about what your own personal issues are....you have illogical fears, perhaps a professional could help you out with that...it's not drama as you seem to like to say....YOU are not better than anyone else YOU are not less likely to have had unprotected sex or less likely to be a carrier of something YOU are just more likely  perhaps to lie about it....old law, new law! who cares? because something is an old law that makes it right? no it means that new information needs to change it, or are you one of those people who feels the old ways are best lol, at least that would make laugh and not just feel sorry for you

Why are you screaming at me.  I didn't make the law.  It's economic.  Not homophobia.  And why risk it?  Have you ever had a blood transfusion?  You are at the mercy of the checking.  You really have no say.  I would rather be safe.  Than sorry.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:24 AM

View PostCassea, on 11 December 2012 - 04:19 AM, said:

Why are you screaming at me.  I didn't make the law.  It's economic.  Not homophobia.  And why risk it?  Have you ever had a blood transfusion?  You are at the mercy of the checking.  You really have no say.  I would rather be safe.  Than sorry.

No you would rather be dead than risk it, have I ever had a blood transfusion? to be honest I don't know when I had emergency surgery the last think I ever asked was about blood eve to my husband, unlike you that was not my issue....perhaps you have never had anyone in your life that needed one, I actually have and was glad that they had blood available, I did not ( and neither did they) care if it came from someone who was gay or not, and I am not screaming at you, I am simply telling you what I think, if I scream you will know it

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:34 AM

:unsure2: I thought you were a high school student.  Wow.  Never mind. :unsure2:

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:40 AM

View PostCassea, on 11 December 2012 - 04:34 AM, said:

:unsure2: I thought you were a high school student.  Wow.  Never mind. :unsure2:

why would you think I was a high school student? did I say something that sounded as such? please, explain

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:42 AM

The confused post about understanding reading.  Posting in ALL CAPS and saying "YOU" like that.  Comes across as quite young to me.   Sorry.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:49 AM

View Post.AKUMA., on 10 December 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Good! Its becuase people like this carry another kind of disease and its called homosexuality.
homosexuality isn't a disease.
grow up educate yourself and then come back


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:52 AM

View PostCassea, on 11 December 2012 - 04:42 AM, said:

The confused post about understanding reading.  Posting in ALL CAPS and saying "YOU" like that.  Comes across as quite young to me.   Sorry.

hmmm perhaps it is more that YOU can not come up with anything constructive to say? or perhaps you are not used to someone not letting you spew your ignorance without calling your out on it? I would have a few good guesses about your life, all of them would give me a good laugh to be honest, I feel sorry for people who think so highly of themselves, you have no idea that the world isn't rainbows and unicorns....grow up little one, I realize you are in your 30s, but by how you speak you have two options you either live in some sheltered little world or life has already kicked you in the teeth and you are in denial, either way...pathetic really, you are not better than anyone and your blood is not better than anyone else s... If you feel that the capitalization of one word is inappropriate perhaps you should re-read, when using email or forums sometimes that is the only way to show emphasis (do you need to look that word up?) debating with you is tiresome as it is pointless

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:52 AM

Who said it was.   Seems like others have no problem.  Getting the point.  It has nothing to do with homosexuality.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:03 AM

View PostCassea, on 11 December 2012 - 04:52 AM, said:

Who said it was.   Seems like others have no problem.  Getting the point.  It has nothing to do with homosexuality.

But it has everything to do with homosexuality when that is the group being excluded...You can't say it doesn't have to do with this but that is the reason why you can't do something...it is silly....it would be like telling a child you don't get presents because you were bad but being bad had nothing to do with you not getting presents...

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:05 AM

View PostCassea, on 11 December 2012 - 04:42 AM, said:

The confused post about understanding reading.  Posting in ALL CAPS and saying "YOU" like that.  Comes across as quite young to me.   Sorry.

the post you are referring to Cassea, was not someone screaming at you.. drama..


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:06 AM

View Postbacca, on 11 December 2012 - 04:00 AM, said:

and when blood is tested what is the odds that they get it wrong? it is homophobia

Just curious...

It was already pointed out earlier that if there was any sort of phobia attached to gay individuals then why doesn't the ban apply to lesbian women?

It's an economic and a health issue for good reason based upon STD statistics.

Failure to comprehend this decision is what happens when the individual confuses thinking with feeling.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:23 AM

View Postacidhead, on 11 December 2012 - 05:06 AM, said:

Just curious...

It was already pointed out earlier that if there was any sort of phobia attached to gay individuals then why doesn't the ban apply to lesbian women?

It's an economic and a health issue for good reason based upon STD statistics.

Failure to comprehend this decision is what happens when the individual confuses thinking with feeling.

First, why doesn't it apply to lesbians? because women are not looked at in the same way, there isn't the same eewww factor...people don't get upset about two girls kissing or what not, it is more socially acceptable for two girls to kiss in a bar, if two males do it the reaction is different and that spills over into all aspects.  As for the economic issue the only way that that would be valid would be if all people were honest...but the truth is that if your local pastor has a boyfriend on the side he is not telling which means the same blood that is happily accepted as married heterosexual is in truth having sex with the whole neighborhood...it is a myth, you can not trust what people say as many people (especially men) will lie about same sex relations...to say that the blood supply would not benefit from the 60% of healthy blood is also not true, any that is given is a good thing, as well as any blood that is donated and found to be infected is good in that the supplier can be notified....

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