Why John Kerry Will Not Win

[fearfulone]

It's simple everyone, we can sit here and debate how much some of you hate President Bush and others hate Senator Kerry and then there are those that just don't agree with either and are going to vote for Ralph Nader (snuffypuffer). But, ladies and gents, I assure you that John Kerry will not win and there is one crucial reason why: The Democrat Party simply does not want it to happen. 3 Reasons/examples why:

1) If John Kerry wins, he is automatically the Democratic nomination for President again in 2008. If this happens, the Democrats (the higher-ups in the party were not all so happy that he won the party election, many democrat higher-ups wanted Wesley Clark) will not be able to put their "puppet" in the office. John Kerry is known as one of the farthest left Senators in the party, this scares people away. If John Kerry wins, the probability of him being re-elected in '08 is small because people will be turned off on his "leftist agenda."

2) The Democrats want to be credited for the next great step in progressive American society. Aka...Hillary Clinton as President. If John Kerry wins, he is running for re-election in '08 and Mrs. Clinton can not run, if he wins re-election, by 2012 people will continue in the regular motion of things in changing the white house to a republican President again (usually happens that way, if a Republican holds office for 8 years, the American public votes Democrat and vice versa). Hillary Clinton was not even supposed to speak at the Democratic National Convention, but the "higher ups" in the Democratic Party believed that it would be good to thrust her onto the national scene in order to set up the American public for seeing a woman running in '08.

3) Bill Clinton, who is still considered the most powerful person from the Democrat party, pulled out from campaigning for Senator Kerry. I don't mean to sound like a whacky crazy conspiracy theorist here, but this whole rant is a theory...so therefore, former President Clinton knew months ago his heart condition was beginning to falter. He stopped jogging every morning, he wasn't eating as healthy...he had a physical earlier this year where supposedly "everything was fine." President Clinton at that time found out that he had a slight heart condition and it could be taken care of. But President Clinton, not sure if even he could help Senator Kerry's bid for the White House, decided to hold off on the operation until it was evident whether Kerry would win or lose. This way, to save his face of backing a failure candidate and to save Hilary's face for '08, he could have a routine heart operation that he knew he needed, right in time for him to no longer be able to campaign and speak publicly in favor of Senator Kerry.

So there you have it folks....it's not only the Republicans, conservatives, and right wingers that don't want John Kerry to win, but his own party has its own agenda and does not want to see it happen.

Bring on the attacks.....

[ChrisC098]

Hmm those are some interesting points that I happen to agree with. Plus I dont like Kerry so

[Celumnaz]

lol, same here!

And like Snuffy, I'm not voting for either either, I'm going to write in Alan Keys. Both of them are bad in my book, Kerry is the worst though.

[Angelofmercy]

I agree...Hilary wants the bid for the white house in 08 and if kerry wins she won't get it...but if Bush wins, that means 2 new people running and right now the Republican party doesn't have anyoen that could beat Hilary

Does that scare the crap out of anyone else???

[greychupa]

I don't give a sh**.

[Babs]

It looks like everything is falling into place. I've heard much of this on the news and have figured as you have. Yeah, it sure looks like that is what is happening. I told my husband that Kerry was a 'whipping' dog, for the democrats_just someone to put in there til 2008.

[bathory]

on the other hand, they hate Bush enough..

[panther10758]

Kerry is a "throw away" Canidate no doubt and Democrats plan was always 2008. Bush has had some problems with Irag so his popularity has dropped otherwise Kerry would be a lost cause already. Beating Bush isnt likely and if by some stretch he does this removes Hilary from 2008 which isnt part of the plan. This reminds me of the Robert Redford film "The Canidate" in which is placed in a race he is meant to lose. All your reasoning is right on Kerry was set up by Democrats to lose inother words he is a throw away canidate. Democrats are looking for another 8 years of Clinton its that simple. Most Democrats really dont support Kerry and 8 years of Kerry would throw their long range plans into the toilet. I plan on voting Bush but not for those reasons. I support Bush and what he has done. This isnt the thread for that debate though yes I agree Kerry isnt meant to win and Democrats planned that from the start

[twpdyp]

I also agree the Democrates want Hillary Clinton in 2008 I for one wouldn't want Mrs. Clinton to win an election for county dog catcher but that is a debate for another time.

[panther10758]

"IF" Kerry were to win then that would remove a Hilary run in 2008

[Independent1]

This invokes the inviable question, what would be worse, Kerry becoming President in 2004 or Hillary becoming President in 2008?

[twpdyp]

Either makes me GAG!!!!!

[SilverCougar]

*groans* I have never been more frightened of the elections...

[psicohunter]

i'm scared because the so many Republicans on this topic but i'm going to post any way

look if kerry wins the Hillary and a lot of other democrats for that matter are going to get a high posison in the cabinet so so she'll fight for a now job even if it means she'll have to wait another 8 years till she can shote for the moon and most of the democrats hate bush so a lot are will vote any one but bush(like me if i could vote)

[Unorthodox Thesis]

When Hitlery becomes president, that is the day we die.

[Kat_Kloud]

I'm not much into these presidential debates but I'd like to know why Hilary Clinton is so bad. Tell meh.

[Nxt2Hvn]

I'm not much into these presidential debates but I'd like to know why Hilary Clinton is so bad. Tell meh.

303973[/snapback]

I can answer that one... *raises hand*... let me, let me....

Hillary is the DEVIL!!!

And Norman... I love the way you ... ahem.... spelled her name... "Hitlery"!!

[fearfulone]

I'm not much into these presidential debates but I'd like to know why Hilary Clinton is so bad. Tell meh.

303973[/snapback]

I can answer that one... *raises hand*... let me, let me....

Hillary is the DEVIL!!!

And Norman... I love the way you ... ahem.... spelled her name... "Hitlery"!!

304462[/snapback]

Very simply...Hillary Clinton is the one who got through the system...the person the gov't shouldve stopped when she was growing up, the person who nobody but ultrafeminists like but would get a large number of votes because of her husbands reputation...ie."one clinton cant be must worse than the other"

[twpdyp]

I'm not much into these presidential debates but I'd like to know why Hilary Clinton is so bad. Tell meh.

Where do I begin?

Here is a woman who either believes her lying husband or is so out of touch with reality that she thinks that oral sex is not sex.

She looks around for a state that best suits her purposes, selects New York, runs for senate, hanging on to hubby's coat tails.

Need I continue...............

[vimjams]

And didn't she have a hand in making sure the WACO business come off the way it did ?

twpdyp..I don't think 'talking' about sex is the same as actually 'having' sex.

Vimjams

Edited October 20, 2004 by vimjams

[bathory]

twpdyp..I don't think 'talking' about sex is the same as actually 'having' sex.

you can't be serious?

Hilary stayed with Bill for one reason only, the political power and influence.

[4dplane]

Simply put, many American men are scared of woman, let alone a strong smart woman that might know just a little to much about man’s evil ways, that this country will not vote a woman into the white house for at least another 100 years.

African American men, who at the time many believed were not even human, were able to vote before white American women. What does this say about the mindset of white American men towards women? Not as much but still substantial, are American woman who are taught and believe that they should be a good dumb house wife and make sure their husband is happy – this is achieved by daily sex, hot meals and limited conversation, and don’t you dare vote for the F’n liberal.

As for Hilary, how do we know she's not getin drilled every night by Dirk Digler as Bill watches. O my bad! I forgot republicans don’t have sex; they have preemptive strikes on people who will not obey them. Kind of sounds like what some men do to their wives when they are none compliant.

For some of the people outside the US who have never been to the US and for the American that has never been outside their home town, there are millions of American males who believe that woman are not equal to men. Wonder where they got that idea!? Woman on average make less then men. America has a Billion dollar Porn industry. America parades young woman on tv for everything possible. America is rated one of the highest in the world for rapes, murders and domestic abuse of woman.

Do we see any flags here? Sirens and flashing red lights – HELLO!!!

And America is going to vote in a woman, this greedy self-centered, belligerent, fat, woman hating, race hating country of people whom majority call them selves Christians and good people are going to vote a woman in. PHES YA! If and when this happens, it would be the beginning of true hope.

Men are evil, I know, I read it in the Bible, so why not give women the helm?

Edited October 20, 2004 by 4dplane

[bathory]

i love women, i hate feminists

there are millions of American males who believe that woman are not equal to men.

and there are plenty of nazi feminists who think the same wayy

[Novo]

i love women, i hate feminists

there are millions of American males who believe that woman are not equal to men.

and there are plenty of nazi feminists who think the same wayy

316502[/snapback]

Generally, Im not worried about a group of bigoting morons who have fell from power. If I were you, I would worry about having "A near retarded maniac" in power.

on another note

---I believe a woman, is not there to by idolized or looked at. She is a human being, as much as you or I. And if anything, if your trying to build a relationship with one you should treat them like there Irreplacable.

[vimjams]

i love women, i hate feminists

Sorry Bathory....And there's me being polite because I am thinking all this time that you were a 'Feminist'

Vimjams