Do you know your subconscious mind?

[skyflash]

I started to have contact with my subconscious mind, when I learned to meditate some years ago. Through my meditative experience, I have seen many strange images in my minds eye. Brief fleeting images of faces, some with very strange angular looking features, I guess not from this world. Some images that looked like complete stillness, hard to describe, but looked like blackness which seemed to have a still texture about it. Some images showing explosions, starfields in space, unknown places, one was a city skyline shrouded in fog. I have also seen into the future, a couple of days ahead, one image showing what looked like a television with a face. A few days later, saw the exact same image on the TV, turned out to be a character in a childrens show. I had not seen this before, so how did my subconscious mind come up with this image. Also An image of a head resting on green grass, turned out to be a TV advert which I saw a few days later. An image of barbed wire above a brick wall against blue sky, turned out to be a wall I drove past a few days later.

Also learned to use a pendulum to find lost objects, it worked sometimes but not always, probably because of poor concentration.

I have now reached the point, where I don't use a pendulum, I just ask ask my subconscious mind where a lost object is located, and get the answer in my head. If it is in the same room, my eyes are directed to its location, totally subconsciously. I think I have finally discovered how to get answers from my subconscious mind, what do you think ?

[Amberlight]

No, I cannot say I understand mine all that much, although I am learning. I think by just realizing that it is there is a big step. It is good that you are training to understand this further, most people do not bother.

[skyflash]

No, I cannot say I understand mine all that much, although I am learning. I think by just realizing that it is there is a big step. It is good that you are training to understand this further, most people do not bother.

You are right Amberlight, most people don't get to know how their minds work, and how their minds react to various stimuli such as listening to music. If you are interested in learning a bit more about your mind, meditation is a good way to start. Because I now understand myself better, more than at any other time in the past, I feel I have gained something. As you can imagine though, it's difficult finding someone else, who feels the same way as I do about this.

[Bunny Munro]

I think I understand it very well, I think about it a lot and I feel that I really do understand why I do most things.

[John from Lowell]

Also learned to use a pendulum to find lost objects, it worked sometimes but not always, probably because of poor concentration.

I have now reached the point, where I don't use a pendulum, I just ask ask my subconscious mind where a lost object is located, and get the answer in my head. If it is in the same room, my eyes are directed to its location, totally subconsciously. I think I have finally discovered how to get answers from my subconscious mind, what do you think ?

You are getting answers from within the self. It may not actually be the subconscious as, I would define that aspect of us. It could be what I would call your higher self.

These distinctions are not easily understood most of the time.

John

[skyflash]

You are getting answers from within the self. It may not actually be the subconscious as, I would define that aspect of us. It could be what I would call your higher self.

These distinctions are not easily understood most of the time.

John

Ok John, regarding the higher self, I would agree with you there. But could not the subconscious mind be the conduit, the channel through which the higher self communicates itself. The reason I think this, is because all the vision imagery I saw in my minds eye, came from within the Alpha/Theta level state of mind, and not from the Beta waking state. This would indicate that the subconscious mind is the active component, the channel for the higher self. But that's not to say of course, that the subconscious component cannot be working in the beta waking state, which it does of course.

A couple of other interesting images I witnessed were, swirling chequer board patterns, and a huge silver spoke like structure, similar to the spokes of a wheel, with many fine spokes adjacent to one another. I found I could make it rotate either clockwise or anti clock just by using my thought. These images were observed just as I was coming out of the sleep state, in the early hours. I don't get these kind of images now, since I stopped my earlier meditative technique. The kind of meditation I have been doing up to now, has been to get me into a relaxed and energised state of mind each morning. This enables me to get through the day with relative ease. The way I see it is this, get yourself sorted out first thing, then you can sort out whatever problems come your way during the day with ease.

[Shiroto]

That's really cool! how exactly do you start to engage your subconcious for the first time? I'm new to this but it seems really interesting

[John from Lowell]

Ok John, regarding the higher self, I would agree with you there. But could not the subconscious mind be the conduit, the channel through which the higher self communicates itself. The reason I think this, is because all the vision imagery I saw in my minds eye, came from within the Alpha/Theta level state of mind, and not from the Beta waking state. This would indicate that the subconscious mind is the active component, the channel for the higher self. But that's not to say of course, that the subconscious component cannot be working in the beta waking state, which it does of course.

A couple of other interesting images I witnessed were, swirling chequer board patterns, and a huge silver spoke like structure, similar to the spokes of a wheel, with many fine spokes adjacent to one another. I found I could make it rotate either clockwise or anti clock just by using my thought. These images were observed just as I was coming out of the sleep state, in the early hours. I don't get these kind of images now, since I stopped my earlier meditative technique. The kind of meditation I have been doing up to now, has been to get me into a relaxed and energised state of mind each morning. This enables me to get through the day with relative ease. The way I see it is this, get yourself sorted out first thing, then you can sort out whatever problems come your way during the day with ease.

In my view, when we talk about the subconscious we need to consider a great many things.

There is that inner child energy, the magical creative essence, and its manner of responding to our energy of intent.

There is the collective subconscious. The manner in which we are connected to all others and to all things. Some refer to this as the field or the quantum realm of reality.

One of my areas of interest is telepathy. It is my experience that all communication takes place through our subconscious awareness. This concept is quite similar to your views on the subject.

Much of what you describe ties in with any or all of these ideas.

John

That's really cool! how exactly do you start to engage your subconcious for the first time? I'm new to this but it seems really interesting

Meditation.

[skyflash]

That's really cool! how exactly do you start to engage your subconcious for the first time? I'm new to this but it seems really interesting

As John said in agreement with me, meditation is the way to engage your higher self, through your subconscious mind. So now is the time to start thinking about learning, you have nothing to lose, and everything to gain from meditation. The more you practice, like most things, the better you become, and the more you gain from it. There are beneficial physiological effects from meditation, so it's good for your health to.

We seem to be a bit lacking in the western world, when it comes to meditating, which is a real shame, as it would serve us well in our stressful lives.

In my view, when we talk about the subconscious we need to consider a great many things.

There is that inner child energy, the magical creative essence, and its manner of responding to our energy of intent.

There is the collective subconscious. The manner in which we are connected to all others and to all things. Some refer to this as the field or the quantum realm of reality.

One of my areas of interest is telepathy. It is my experience that all communication takes place through our subconscious awareness. This concept is quite similar to your views on the subject.

Much of what you describe ties in with any or all of these ideas.

John

Meditation.

Thanks for your post John, entirely agree with you.

I guess that sometimes when we meditate, we are able to tap into this collective consciousness, a kind of psychic Internet. Which might explain some of the things I have experienced, while meditating.

[Mr Walker]

I started to have contact with my subconscious mind, when I learned to meditate some years ago. Through my meditative experience, I have seen many strange images in my minds eye. Brief fleeting images of faces, some with very strange angular looking features, I guess not from this world. Some images that looked like complete stillness, hard to describe, but looked like blackness which seemed to have a still texture about it. Some images showing explosions, starfields in space, unknown places, one was a city skyline shrouded in fog. I have also seen into the future, a couple of days ahead, one image showing what looked like a television with a face. A few days later, saw the exact same image on the TV, turned out to be a character in a childrens show. I had not seen this before, so how did my subconscious mind come up with this image. Also An image of a head resting on green grass, turned out to be a TV advert which I saw a few days later. An image of barbed wire above a brick wall against blue sky, turned out to be a wall I drove past a few days later.

Also learned to use a pendulum to find lost objects, it worked sometimes but not always, probably because of poor concentration.

I have now reached the point, where I don't use a pendulum, I just ask ask my subconscious mind where a lost object is located, and get the answer in my head. If it is in the same room, my eyes are directed to its location, totally subconsciously. I think I have finally discovered how to get answers from my subconscious mind, what do you think ?

interesting. As a child i learned to integrate my conscious and subconscious minds so that i could utilise controlled lucid dreaming. Ie create dream landscapes characters and plots, enter the dream aware of what i was doing and either play a part in the dream with conscious intent, or simply sit backk and let my subconscious interpet my part and act it out.

I also find lost or stolen objects. I dont have a mental image, i just know where they are, the same as i know where something is th t i ahve consciously seen.

Your post offers another possible explanation for this ability. Although the evidence is that to do this one must enter the minds of another (who possesss the knowledge) rather than find it within ones own subconscious.(so i can find a stolen object by seeing into the thiefs mind but i cant see how my mind disconnected from other sources could know where a stolen object was)

It may be possible, because i often find los objects. I assumed i accessed the subconscious knowledge of the person who lost it, but other possibilities exist.

[icile_xele]

When I think of the subconscious mind, I think of emotions. Or, the micro-thought processes operating (often under the radar) which are responsible for our emotions. For example, Event A did not make us sad, but our thoughts/beliefs about Event A made us sad.

Dowsing for lost things I do believe can be related to the subconscious mind, if we're retrieving information that we already have... but misplaced. My eyes aren't drawn to a certain direction, but my body is. (Not like a magnet or anything, but I just sort of *feel* where something is. When I started out, I would use my hand.) I usually only get general location, as I've rarely ever gotten a mental picture of where a lost item was that I couldn't attribute to memory. However, I can always feel where it's not.

I would probably term the things described here as being related to the superconscious mind.

[mysticart1987]

Everyone of you are right. No one can tell you how to find yourself as yourself is within and neither outside yourself that only you cannot look for yourself and neither find. It will find you, because after all you do not know where to look... Meditate and it will show its presence and power in the time when it is no longer lost but with you from the beginning. All you had to do is learn how to listen.

Again this is my way of finding myself through my subconscious to the higher self (myself) to understand the world and how i am to run along through it and not with it. I create my own reality by how i react to it...

Seek don't find, find by not seeking...

[Black Hound]

Thank God I don't nor do I ever intend to go there or let anyone else go there either. LMFAO

Edited May 30, 2010 by Graveyard Hound

[sukyb1]

interesting. As a child i learned to integrate my conscious and subconscious minds so that i could utilise controlled lucid dreaming. Ie create dream landscapes characters and plots, enter the dream aware of what i was doing and either play a part in the dream with conscious intent, or simply sit backk and let my subconscious interpet my part and act it out.

I also find lost or stolen objects. I dont have a mental image, i just know where they are, the same as i know where something is th t i ahve consciously seen.

Your post offers another possible explanation for this ability. Although the evidence is that to do this one must enter the minds of another (who possesss the knowledge) rather than find it within ones own subconscious.(so i can find a stolen object by seeing into the thiefs mind but i cant see how my mind disconnected from other sources could know where a stolen object was)

It may be possible, because i often find los objects. I assumed i accessed the subconscious knowledge of the person who lost it, but other possibilities exist.

Hi....i found this thread quite interesting. If i have something stolen from me would you be able to help me locate it?

I started to have contact with my subconscious mind, when I learned to meditate some years ago. Through my meditative experience, I have seen many strange images in my minds eye. Brief fleeting images of faces, some with very strange angular looking features, I guess not from this world. Some images that looked like complete stillness, hard to describe, but looked like blackness which seemed to have a still texture about it. Some images showing explosions, starfields in space, unknown places, one was a city skyline shrouded in fog. I have also seen into the future, a couple of days ahead, one image showing what looked like a television with a face. A few days later, saw the exact same image on the TV, turned out to be a character in a childrens show. I had not seen this before, so how did my subconscious mind come up with this image. Also An image of a head resting on green grass, turned out to be a TV advert which I saw a few days later. An image of barbed wire above a brick wall against blue sky, turned out to be a wall I drove past a few days later.

Also learned to use a pendulum to find lost objects, it worked sometimes but not always, probably because of poor concentration.

I have now reached the point, where I don't use a pendulum, I just ask ask my subconscious mind where a lost object is located, and get the answer in my head. If it is in the same room, my eyes are directed to its location, totally subconsciously. I think I have finally discovered how to get answers from my subconscious mind, what do you think ?

Hi....very intersting...are you saying that if i've had something stolen from me then you could help me find it??

[StarMountainKid]

What is the subconscious mind?

[8th_wall]

As soon as one "knows" the subconscious it is no longer subconscious. It is conscious.

For me the subconsciousness is an inordinately large list of indiscrete processes that structures responses formulated into ~habits (don't like that word.. Is there a definition for a word between "habit" and "act" ?) to allow the conscious mind to act for its needs.

A "need" would be the thing/s that you respond to most readily in a truistic manner that does not require direct awareness. (More so emotionally/survivally)

Truistic: A self-evident truth

[John from Lowell]

My understanding of the subconscious is quite different.

It is the creative aspect of us. An inner child that responds to the energies of out intentions and co-creates our reality accordingly. It is the aspect of us that knows how to bring the potentials together so that they can manifest in physical form.

I suspect that it is one aspect of us that remembers All That We Are. The conscious self will never be able to grasp the scope of our potentials or be able to comprehend our reality. When we hypnotize a person we are able to talk with that person's subconscious. It remembers everything about our current lifetime and all of our other human expressions. That is how past life regression sessions work, as I understand it.

John

[StarMountainKid]

As soon as one "knows" the subconscious it is no longer subconscious. It is conscious.

Good point here. Does the subconscious create the conscious mind, or are they independant of each other? Is the subconscious our 'primary' mind, and our consciousness the 'self-aware' aspect of the subconscious? I think our consciousness has little to do with what we do and who we are. It mainly goes along for the ride, so to speak. The tip of the iceberg.

Studies have been made that show our decisions are made up to 10 seconds before we are aware of them. In other words, our subconscious decides to do something, then at an appropriate moment that decision is projected into our consciousness. However, the subconscious does not always deem it necessary to make our consciousness aware of its decisions. It is more efficient if we do not have to think about every action we make.

Our thinking originates in the subconscious mind as well. We hear our thoughts audibly consciously, so we assume our consciousness is doing the thinking. But, who thinks of the thoughts we are to think before we think them? This is an important issue to consider.

I'm not sure we can personally 'know' our subconscious mind, I would say our subconscious mind is ourself. After all, our interface with the outside world is first processed in the brain/subconscious. We do not see through our eyes consciously, the visual image is first processed in the brain and then introduced into our conscious self-awareness.

This is my understanding of the operation of this mysterious biological goo we call our brain.

[8th_wall]

Good point here. Does the subconscious create the conscious mind, or are they independant of each other? Is the subconscious our 'primary' mind, and our consciousness the 'self-aware' aspect of the subconscious? I think our consciousness has little to do with what we do and who we are. It mainly goes along for the ride, so to speak. The tip of the iceberg.

I think it's more of a gradual thing (conscious and subconscious independence.) Consciousness was different when you were 2, when you were 7, when you were 16 etc. I would think the subconscious evolved also

[cujo5]

Good point here. Does the subconscious create the conscious mind, or are they independant of each other? Is the subconscious our 'primary' mind, and our consciousness the 'self-aware' aspect of the subconscious? I think our consciousness has little to do with what we do and who we are. It mainly goes along for the ride, so to speak. The tip of the iceberg.

Studies have been made that show our decisions are made up to 10 seconds before we are aware of them. In other words, our subconscious decides to do something, then at an appropriate moment that decision is projected into our consciousness. However, the subconscious does not always deem it necessary to make our consciousness aware of its decisions. It is more efficient if we do not have to think about every action we make.

Our thinking originates in the subconscious mind as well. We hear our thoughts audibly consciously, so we assume our consciousness is doing the thinking. But, who thinks of the thoughts we are to think before we think them? This is an important issue to consider.

I'm not sure we can personally 'know' our subconscious mind, I would say our subconscious mind is ourself. After all, our interface with the outside world is first processed in the brain/subconscious. We do not see through our eyes consciously, the visual image is first processed in the brain and then introduced into our conscious self-awareness.

This is my understanding of the operation of this mysterious biological goo we call our brain.

You say the subconscious mind makes a decision 10 seconds before the conscious is aware of it. Does the subconscious take in the account of emotion or is that determined by us, the conscious mind and how we have reacted to certain things in our past.

[StarMountainKid]

You say the subconscious mind makes a decision 10 seconds before the conscious is aware of it. Does the subconscious take in the account of emotion or is that determined by us, the conscious mind and how we have reacted to certain things in our past.

I would ask who is 'us'? Are we primarily the subconscious mind or the conscious mind? I think emotions originate subconsciously. Our conscious mind does not choose what emotion to feel, emotions just happen. Just my thoughts.

[Mr Walker]

Hi....i found this thread quite interesting. If i have something stolen from me would you be able to help me locate it?

I do not know. In every case where i have "found" a lost or stolen object< either the thief or the person who lost it was nearby Along withother cases of "reading minds" i think tha tmeans you have to be close to me for it to work. And in 40 years of realising I can sometimes do this I ahve perhaps found only a dozen objects Sometimes i get nothing from a person who asks for help. At other times i know exactly where the oject is and can give precise directions sometimes it is a association.

Here are some examples. One woman had lost her small purse. " I t is in your bag." i said. "No its not ive looked in every place in my bag"

" Still, its in your bag. Have another look"

She came back to report tha t indeed it was in a small side pocke t of her bag, but she had no recollection of putting it there, and had not found it the firsttime she looked in her bag(perhaps because she didnt really expect to find it there.)

Another person said "ive lost my wallet"

"Its down the side of your car betwen the seat and the side of the car." I said. He went and loked and said "no its not"

"Have another look" i said "i know its there." He went off with a torch and found it so tightly stuck between the seat and the mounting tha the had not seen it the first time.

At school a year 9 girl told me her phone had disappeared. "its in the green bag on the lockers" i said.

She turned to her "best friend" and said, "you b****," before going off to get her phone, which her friend had jokingly taken and placed in her bag. I had no idea if there even was a green bag on the lockers, or who it belioenged to, but i "knew" that was where the phone was.

Sometimes i have to report that an object is irretrievable because it is at the bottom of the sea or flushed down the loo, and sometimes i just get no feel for it at all. I wont take money for finding things, but i have been shouted a few nice meals.

Ps at the risk of blowing any credibility i might have, does the colour bright red connect with anything you might have lost? Tha t is the only impression i get from reading your post, and at this distance it may well be irrelevant.

Ps, i once was out geocaching in thick scrub. When i got back to my car, a kilometer or so away, i realised my glasses were missing. I was able to walk several hundred metres into the scrub and find them immediately because i "knew" they were hanging on a tree and could 'see' them in relation to their surroundings. They had been gently brushed off my face as i walked through the undergrowth and were hanging by the small cord that was supposed to keep them on my head, but had instead got entangled in the foliage.

Now that is possibly a subconscious recall, but it is similar to how i jus tknow where things are tha thave been lost or stolen .

[sukyb1]

I do not know. In every case where i have "found" a lost or stolen object< either the thief or the person who lost it was nearby Along withother cases of "reading minds" i think tha tmeans you have to be close to me for it to work. And in 40 years of realising I can sometimes do this I ahve perhaps found only a dozen objects Sometimes i get nothing from a person who asks for help. At other times i know exactly where the oject is and can give precise directions sometimes it is a association.

Here are some examples. One woman had lost her small purse. " I t is in your bag." i said. "No its not ive looked in every place in my bag"

" Still, its in your bag. Have another look"

She came back to report tha t indeed it was in a small side pocke t of her bag, but she had no recollection of putting it there, and had not found it the firsttime she looked in her bag(perhaps because she didnt really expect to find it there.)

Another person said "ive lost my wallet"

"Its down the side of your car betwen the seat and the side of the car." I said. He went and loked and said "no its not"

"Have another look" i said "i know its there." He went off with a torch and found it so tightly stuck between the seat and the mounting tha the had not seen it the first time.

At school a year 9 girl told me her phone had disappeared. "its in the green bag on the lockers" i said.

She turned to her "best friend" and said, "you b****," before going off to get her phone, which her friend had jokingly taken and placed in her bag. I had no idea if there even was a green bag on the lockers, or who it belioenged to, but i "knew" that was where the phone was.

Sometimes i have to report that an object is irretrievable because it is at the bottom of the sea or flushed down the loo, and sometimes i just get no feel for it at all. I wont take money for finding things, but i have been shouted a few nice meals.

Ps at the risk of blowing any credibility i might have, does the colour bright red connect with anything you might have lost? Tha t is the only impression i get from reading your post, and at this distance it may well be irrelevant.

Ps, i once was out geocaching in thick scrub. When i got back to my car, a kilometer or so away, i realised my glasses were missing. I was able to walk several hundred metres into the scrub and find them immediately because i "knew" they were hanging on a tree and could 'see' them in relation to their surroundings. They had been gently brushed off my face as i walked through the undergrowth and were hanging by the small cord that was supposed to keep them on my head, but had instead got entangled in the foliage.

Now that is possibly a subconscious recall, but it is similar to how i jus tknow where things are tha thave been lost or stolen .

OH my god....bright red is right!

ok, this is what has happened so far......in the wardrobe there was a bag in which there was one grey metal safety depoait box (which has been recovered by the police) and there were 3 bright red boxes with jewellery sets in there, two red boxes are still in the mag but empty so what i assume has happened is that someone has emptied out the other two into one. This red box is still missing and needs to be found.

plus, can you tell me who could have taken it and when?

Thanks,

Sukhi

[Power Lust]

I started to have contact with my subconscious mind, when I learned to meditate some years ago. Through my meditative experience, I have seen many strange images in my minds eye. Brief fleeting images of faces, some with very strange angular looking features, I guess not from this world. Some images that looked like complete stillness, hard to describe, but looked like blackness which seemed to have a still texture about it. Some images showing explosions, starfields in space, unknown places, one was a city skyline shrouded in fog. I have also seen into the future, a couple of days ahead, one image showing what looked like a television with a face. A few days later, saw the exact same image on the TV, turned out to be a character in a childrens show. I had not seen this before, so how did my subconscious mind come up with this image. Also An image of a head resting on green grass, turned out to be a TV advert which I saw a few days later. An image of barbed wire above a brick wall against blue sky, turned out to be a wall I drove past a few days later.

Also learned to use a pendulum to find lost objects, it worked sometimes but not always, probably because of poor concentration.

I have now reached the point, where I don't use a pendulum, I just ask ask my subconscious mind where a lost object is located, and get the answer in my head. If it is in the same room, my eyes are directed to its location, totally subconsciously. I think I have finally discovered how to get answers from my subconscious mind, what do you think ?

I think the subconscious contains its own vision which is not the same as eyesight or dreams. It is a place deep down where everything is known and which crystal clear visions come from.

I learnt to tap the visions by waiting for a deja-vu experience, keeping that deja-vu sensation going and increasing the strength of the feeling. Soon after doing this I start getting a flurry of deja-vu experiences where I'm not only experiencing things which seem like I've done them before but I am seeing the future upto several minutes in advance which then plays out exactly how I'm seeing it.

[Kazahel]

I sometimes test in dreams to see if I am communicating with my subconscious or if its from an outside source by asking questions. For example last night(or this morning to be more correct)while I was dreaming(lucid dreaming)I met a character in my dream who had very white/bright silver hair, I think they call it platinum blond though after looking around today and it was only just shoulder length, so like a bob haircut). Anyway I asked this character, who I thought was an angel, what his name was and he told me "Sherlock". After I woke up I thought to look up what that name means, which is something I tend to do quite often but I honestly dont think I've ever looked up that names meaning before. I never had a reason to so I didnt know what it meant which is why I looked it up.

Anyway I found from different places on the net that it means these things..

Fair Haired

Bright hair

Possibly originating as a nickname for one with short hair

Was originally given as a nickname to one with bright shining hair

From the bright forest

The name Sherlock is very likely a(n) English variant of the name Sherwood

So I never knew this and I know it could be subconscious that I would think of Lock as in hair but I wouldnt know what to make of the word Sher. I also thought it was interesting because in my dream I met the character in my old home town and the name of that town is aboriginal for 'A Home in the Forest', which I did know already but I dont think of often.

So anyway in the end I think it wasnt a subconscious character but an actual character because of the hair. So I test when I can to see if things are subconscious or not and this time I'm thinking it(he) wasnt. And if it is just a coincidence then that is pretty weird I think. And if it was somehow just my subconscious then that is amazing.

Edited August 13, 2010 by Kazahel