Spiritual Knowledge

[MysticOnion]

I know this is just an opinion or theory - but I'd be glad if folks would read and consider this, just as an idea as to what may have happened in spirituality and religion up until now.

See what I think is, that the ancient peoples of this world had all the knowledge and the science that we have now. How the acquired that is uncertain, maybe they came from other planets or maybe it was just knowledge of their own creation they were born with - kind of like how a foal can take its first steps a few hours after birth.

What happened is that the knowledge was passed on through the generations by mouth and then later written down on scrolls and other writings so that others could read. Now our ancestors used to think in pictures and symbolism, we still do but the symbols mean completely different things. I think that when the knowledge of the ancients was translated, it was explained in English but not what the symbols should mean. If you accurately decode the symbols you should come across scientific facts, not spiritual teachings. Now if there are scientific facts presented as spiritual teachings, and if I can find them (or anyone else) would it prove that scientific knowledge existed in times when there technically was no such thing as science? Or - would it mean that we simply decode and re-veil it. The symbols can mean anything, depending on the time you are living in? What do you think?

[Rosewin]

One would have to be careful to not backwardly assign scientific meanings to ancient symbols. Though I do believe the very ancients had a high degree of technology, though it would be a type of technology unfamiliar to us, in certain ways more superior, thus the building of megaliths which with all our technology today could not replicate.

Your inclination to want to decipher ancient symbols for technological meaning instead of the currently spiritual interpretations maybe you are onto something. Or maybe ancient 'science' made more to do with spirituality.

Are you going to give us an example of an ancient symbol and what you believe it might mean?

Edited September 14, 2009 by Rosewin

[MysticOnion]

Well Rose- my line of thinking is that before science existed there may have been some of what we now call science within spirituality. If so it should be evident. I'll post again with some conclusions about what some symbols may mean.

Edit to add - I posted this here because I want to know what people think of this idea. What would happen if the spiritual was reunited with science? What if there is no "spiritual" or no "science" what if its just how the symbols were interpreted thats made any sort of difference?

Edited September 14, 2009 by SevenofZero

[markprice]

(stream of consciousness answer:)

If each symbol had not just meaning but also some form of power that radiated from that symbol or could be contained in a symbol, then it would be science. Like the table of elements that can be combined in various ways, the table of symbols could be used for things like time travel or transportation without wasted fuels, just energy generated from combinations of symbols. If you put a symbol on a stone, for example, that stone would then hold that power. I don't think we have any idea how that can be done, but I guess it could be done. If a sentence was made of these symbols it would completely blow your mind until you learned how to think symbolically and dilute the individual energies contained in each symbol so that they could be transformed into meaning. Then after all the symbols are transformed into meaning, they lose there power, and that's pretty much where we are at now--lots of meaning, not much power.

There's should be some aliens out there somewhere that can do this sort of thing

[GIDEON MAGE]

there have been several ice ages, and other world-wide cataclysms.there are ruins undersea, never or barely investigated. there may have been civilizations like our own many times. There are remnants of ancient knowledge everywhere. I don't have a quote, but there are precise descriptions of subatomic particles in the vedas. the authors of the first chapter of genesis were not far away from modern evolutionary theory, other than that they got the birds in the wrong place. Has anyone here ever seriously looked into phoenix legends? It hatches from an egg formed by its own ashes. This is so very similiar to the clostridium species. Each individual bacterial cell contains a spore, which becomes a new cell, even when the parent cell is destroyed by heat. Coincidence? not likely. I did a yahoo search with "phoenix clostridium" and found, in one second:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=170464

[Paranormalcy]

The paranormal and the spiritual, being abstract, elusive and proprietary, are by their nature, irrational (in the technical sense of the word) as they rely on faith, belief, instinct, luck, etc. whereas science is all about the repeatability and consistency, either in experiment or observable patterns. In this way, I doubt there can ever be a true unification. But I think it is also a possibility that the paranormal is actually a component of Man's evolution - striving to understand the unknown, the unexplainable, is what leads us forward in the first place, to be able to describe why the universe does what it does, and why - if the paranormal is as dynamic as it appears, even if we do manage to pigeonhole some phenomena and make them part of the known world, more will arise to replace them, so that the search for answers for Man is self-propelled.

[Dante's Inferno]

I know this is just an opinion or theory - but I'd be glad if folks would read and consider this, just as an idea as to what may have happened in spirituality and religion up until now.

See what I think is, that the ancient peoples of this world had all the knowledge and the science that we have now. How the acquired that is uncertain, maybe they came from other planets or maybe it was just knowledge of their own creation they were born with - kind of like how a foal can take its first steps a few hours after birth.

What happened is that the knowledge was passed on through the generations by mouth and then later written down on scrolls and other writings so that others could read. Now our ancestors used to think in pictures and symbolism, we still do but the symbols mean completely different things. I think that when the knowledge of the ancients was translated, it was explained in English but not what the symbols should mean. If you accurately decode the symbols you should come across scientific facts, not spiritual teachings. Now if there are scientific facts presented as spiritual teachings, and if I can find them (or anyone else) would it prove that scientific knowledge existed in times when there technically was no such thing as science? Or - would it mean that we simply decode and re-veil it. The symbols can mean anything, depending on the time you are living in? What do you think?

Interesting don't suppose you've read Dan Brown's latest novel The lost Symbol it tackles this very subject.

[MysticOnion]

Interesting don't suppose you've read Dan Brown's latest novel The lost Symbol it tackles this very subject.

Have you read it? I have ordered it and I'm going to pick it up tomorrow.

[MysticOnion]

Actually I picked up the book today. Very interesting.. I like the bit about the cube within the cube lol. I like the idea that thoughts have mass and I like...the Zohar. You should read that book all of you. Might make you understand that I don't just talk nonsense or whatever just comes into my head I spent years researching - not cuz of what I think but because of what they think. Understand that.