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#166    AsteroidX

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:39 AM

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:12 PM

View PostRavenHawk, on 21 February 2013 - 06:49 AM, said:

Not exactly.  You don't need representations of the American people to hone your skills of reacting to threats.  This only begs the question of why use modified dog targets in the likeness of the weakest groups of American citizens?  Using such targets is indeed to help train LEOs so that they don't loose their life due to hesitation but it's more to desensitize them from hesitating from firing upon the American public.  That is the only reason to do so.  Again, I don't think this will work.  Obama is thinking of the old police state in which the "Brown Shirts" owed allegiance to the ruler.  His intentions since 2008 have been to foster such a force that would do his bidding.  Everything he and his minions have done to promote this is this area.  That's the only way Socialism can work.

This isn't about reacting to threats, this is about unusual threats. And no, its not to 'desensitize them from firing on the American public'. You do realize that police have been using American looking targets for years, right? The difference between these and those is that these aren't all 30yo male targets.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:49 PM

View PostStellar, on 20 February 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:

Asteroid: This may also answer your questions:
http://www.theblaze....ment-community/

"For less than 99 cents per target, police officers can now shoot at real-life images “designed to give [them] the experience of dealing with deadly force shooting scenarios with subjects that are not the norm during training,” according to Law Enforcement Targets, Inc.’s website."

Again, makes perfect sense.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:47 PM

View PostStellar, on 21 February 2013 - 02:47 AM, said:

And I do believe your government is preparing for civil unrest. The signs seem to be there...
Now the question is why don't they start passing legislation that would end the need to prepare for civil unrest?  Such as reigning in out of control government spending?  Trillions in debt and growing.  Why do they pass bills like the patriot act, taking away our rights?  The patriot act which interestingly was written before 9-11?  Could it be they want civil unrest as an excuse to take more rights and more freedoms from us, turning the USA into a nation where instead of the government serving the people, the people serve the government?  If you just consider this particular issue without asking yourself questions like these at the same time your a fool.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:52 PM

View PostMichaelW, on 21 February 2013 - 05:33 AM, said:

Dude, the guy is crazy.

No he's not.  He's a performer with an audience and acts over the top because it's enertaining and controversial.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:54 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 21 February 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

Sounds like idiocy

If they could do all that how would could I get to use the  -Illudium PU-36 Space Modulator
Perhaps they need these targets if one wants unusual:

http://www.badhaven....nTheMartian.jpg

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:11 PM

View PostRavenHawk, on 21 February 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

Perhaps they need these targets if one wants unusual:

http://www.badhaven....nTheMartian.jpg

That post clearly shows your lack of understanding of the topic.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:15 PM

View PostOverSword, on 21 February 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

Now the question is why don't they start passing legislation that would end the need to prepare for civil unrest?  Such as reigning in out of control government spending?  Trillions in debt and growing.  Why do they pass bills like the patriot act, taking away our rights?  The patriot act which interestingly was written before 9-11?  Could it be they want civil unrest as an excuse to take more rights and more freedoms from us, turning the USA into a nation where instead of the government serving the people, the people serve the government?  If you just consider this particular issue without asking yourself questions like these at the same time your a fool.

1. Departments are independent of each other. The DHS can to a degree determine what they're training for, but they can not pass legislation, just like the military can determine what threat they're going to train for but the can not start wars or end them politically.
2. Who knows? Perhaps they think they're doing whats necessary to try to save the country. Perhaps they see civil unrest as a possibility among a minority of the population. Perhaps they see civil unrest as an eventuality that will happen regardless of actions they take, and are thus trying to take the necessary steps to control the unrest when it happens. We don't know what they're thinking.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:17 PM

View PostStellar, on 21 February 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

That post clearly shows your lack of understanding of the topic.
That post clearly shows your lack of humor :passifier:


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:18 PM

View PostStellar, on 21 February 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

We don't know what they're thinking.
So if they can prepare for us I guess it's fair that we also prepare for them.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:33 PM

View PostOverSword, on 21 February 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

So if they can prepare for us I guess it's fair that we also prepare for them.

Ehh, this is where I dont like the "us" term. They're not necessarily preparing for "us" as in all of us. They're preparing to do their jobs, and if they encounter someone who threatens them, they're preparing for *that* person.

My talk of "preparing for civil unrest" was separate from the talk about these targets. I did not mean to imply that these targets are *for* preparing for civil unrest. The targets are targets designed to prepare people to respond properly to shooting any legitimate target they are presented with. And these pictures are all legitimate targets, since they're all holding up weapons pointed at the DHS/LEO agent.

On a separate note, I also believe the DHS has plans for civil unrest because thats their job--- to be prepared for such eventualities.... and considering how much talk of civil unrest there is, and how many people on these very forums alone have talked about revolution, it'd be foolish for them *not* to prepare for it. And if there is civil unrest and people start going after LEO/DHS agents trying to lawfully do their jobs, these people should be prepared aswell.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:38 PM

View PostStellar, on 21 February 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

Ehh, this is where I dont like the "us" term. They're not necessarily preparing for "us" as in all of us. They're preparing to do their jobs, and if they encounter someone who threatens them, they're preparing for *that* person.

My talk of "preparing for civil unrest" was separate from the talk about these targets. I did not mean to imply that these targets are *for* preparing for civil unrest. The targets are targets designed to prepare people to respond properly to shooting any legitimate target they are presented with. And these pictures are all legitimate targets, since they're all holding up weapons pointed at the DHS/LEO agent.

On a separate note, I also believe the DHS has plans for civil unrest because thats their job--- to be prepared for such eventualities.... and considering how much talk of civil unrest there is, and how many people on these very forums alone have talked about revolution, it'd be foolish for them *not* to prepare for it. And if there is civil unrest and people start going after LEO/DHS agents trying to lawfully do their jobs, these people should be prepared aswell.
I understand your POV.  I just don't agree with preparing to shoot little children is all.  I can understand the thought behind doing it but were I the captain of a police dept. we would not be purchasing these targets.

If by 'lawfully do thier jobs' you are reffering to taking away legaly purchased fire arms, they should not obey those orders and switch sides.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:46 PM

Guys, the NHS also prepares for a UFO/alien invasion, Canada attacking the US, doomsday and I think even a zombie apocalypse. Preparing for a revolution wouldn't be so farfetched even if this is what they are doing.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:48 PM

View PostEonwe, on 21 February 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:

Alex Jones is a bit of an eccentric character, but at least he cares about American principles enough to not care about acting crazy.

His news is pretty biased, I'll admit that much. He and a lot of other folks have been predicting the implementation of drone technology into our society, hypothesizing just how it was going to pan out at first, and for the most part they have been correct in their assumptions that some local governments and state agencies have been adopting drone technology to some extent. He cares about the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the Federalist Papers, and the Declaration of Independence - core documents that many of our current government agencies and police forces sort of tip-toe around through bureaucratic justification.

He also thinks gay people are an evil government plot. The guy just wants to ensure that his viewers are scared 24/7 and think that only he will tell them the "truth". He makes some good points but they get lost in his non-stop screaming and crazy theories. But then that's how he makes his money. Who cares that he makes people terrified of the government and on the verge of violence as long as he gets a pay cheque.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:52 PM

View PostOverSword, on 21 February 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

I understand your POV.  I just don't agree with preparing to shoot little children is all.  I can understand the thought behind doing it but were I the captain of a police dept. we would not be purchasing these targets.

If by 'lawfully do thier jobs' you are reffering to taking away legaly purchased fire arms, they should not obey those orders and switch sides.

I was nto refering to taking away firearms, I was refering to lawfully doing their jobs in general.

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