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#31    TheLastLazyGun

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:43 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 20 November 2012 - 12:39 PM, said:

And the monarch is going to force the dissolution of the parliament how?

As Head of State, Queen Elizabeth II has the power to dissolve the parliaments of all of the 16 countries over which she reigns: Jamaica, Barbados, the Bahamas, Grenada, Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Belize, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United Kingdom.

And there is a precedent for this.  The Queen dissolved Australia's parliament in 1975.

More recently, the Queen dissolved Canada's parliament THREE times between 2008 and last year.

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Because if the Australians, New Zealanders and Canadians show her majesty the finger there is hardly anything she can do about it.

But they HAVEN'T "shown her the finger", have they?  The last time I checked they all have Queen Elizabeth II as their Head of State.  So she has the power to dissolve those countries' parliaments.

Edited by TheLastLazyGun, 20 November 2012 - 02:59 PM.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:45 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 18 November 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

Much as i love my Country,this one i find hard to believe.

You love it so much that you live in Canada.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:48 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 18 November 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

We dont hate ourselves, but these so called surveys really get me annoyed. We used to be a foremost World Power, but successive weak and inept Govt's have reduced us to a 3rd rate power.They sold off nearly all our heavy industry, ie:- shipbuilding,steel industry, the clothing industry including footwear.Merchant Navy,and a whole lot more.We cannot hope to think that we rank alongside the big Countries like the U.S.A etc, we are letting any old Tom,Dick or Harry come in and buy allsorts of items,including land, businesses, and even Castles, so thinking we match the big guys is complete fantasy,heck we couldnt even back up the Falklands if another rumble started down there without help from our allies, we are also Chopping our armed forces and conning other Countries into still thinking that we are great, I'm sick as a chocolate frog about these so called survey statements thought up by IDIOTS

Why are you mentioning Britain's military?

If you'd actually read the whole article you will find that Britain is the world's most powerful country in terms of SOFT power, which does not include military might.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:10 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 20 November 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

I'm not dreaming it.  I distinctly remember opening this thread and posting the relevant article.
That was a great reply!  I would've said something sarcastic but the honest approach works better... :)


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:37 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 20 November 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

You love it so much that you live in Canada.

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 20 November 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

You love it so much that you live in Canada.
My wife is Canadian,thats why i live in Canada.The British Empire is Dead and belongs to another time.The Canadian Government is slowly removing the Queen from it's bank notes.

Try living in the 21st Century...

Edited by shaddow134, 20 November 2012 - 07:38 PM.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:41 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 20 November 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Why are you mentioning Britain's military?

If you'd actually read the whole article you will find that Britain is the world's most powerful country in terms of SOFT power, which does not include military might.

The Survey is ridiculous.I lost Interest in the first two lines.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:48 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 20 November 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

As Head of State, Queen Elizabeth II has the power to dissolve the parliaments of all of the 16 countries over which she reigns: Jamaica, Barbados, the Bahamas, Grenada, Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Belize, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United Kingdom.

And there is a precedent for this.  The Queen dissolved Australia's parliament in 1975.

More recently, the Queen dissolved Canada's parliament THREE times between 2008 and last year.

This isn't strictly true. The Queen doesn't make these decisions unilaterally and, in the case of Canada, it was as a result of a request from the Prime Minister. In fact, she doesn't make these decisions at all. She may have an opinion but that's as far as it goes. This 'power' is purely ceremonial. If she tried it, she would quickly find herself ousted as Head of State of all the countries you mention.

Shadow134 is right. This is the 21st century. You should pay us a visit sometime.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:05 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 20 November 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

But they HAVEN'T "shown her the finger", have they?  The last time I checked they all have Queen Elizabeth II as their Head of State.  So she has the power to dissolve those countries' parliaments.

Hi LLG, he's also missing one crucial point.

Not only is the Queen their Head of State but their armed forces answer to her not their Parliments. An example is Austrailias army - http://en.wikipedia....nk_and_insignia

Wiki quite correctly lists their allegiance to the Queen not Austrailia or the Austrailian Parliment.

Finally most Austrailias, as the others, dont want to be seperated from us even if questionmark does.

Edited by Mr Right Wing, 21 November 2012 - 10:10 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:09 PM

View PostArbenol68, on 20 November 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

This isn't strictly true. The Queen doesn't make these decisions unilaterally and, in the case of Canada, it was as a result of a request from the Prime Minister. In fact, she doesn't make these decisions at all. She may have an opinion but that's as far as it goes. This 'power' is purely ceremonial. If she tried it, she would quickly find herself ousted as Head of State of all the countries you mention.

Shadow134 is right. This is the 21st century. You should pay us a visit sometime.

Not true.

There is a difference between not normally using her powers and not having them. If you go on the HM website it tells you she retains full executive power.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:17 PM

View PostMr Right Wing, on 21 November 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

Not true.

There is a difference between not normally using her powers and not having them. If you go on the HM website it tells you she retains full executive power.

No. It's purely symbolic. Strictly speaking, yes she does have that power. But if she ever tried to use it she would find herself the Head of fewer states than she was. Therefore, she will never use it. The overall effect is the same. Having a power you can never use, is the equivalent of not having it in the first place.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:23 PM

actually i don't care one way or the other i came in to see all the americans peekin and freekin

Edited by JGirl, 21 November 2012 - 10:23 PM.


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Posted 22 November 2012 - 01:16 AM

View PostMr Right Wing, on 20 November 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

The empire of Great Britain and the United States has a nice ring to it.

Oh certainly, just come over here and take over, not a problem.

Although the U.K. would make a very nice 51st state.  Islands like Hawaii, just a little colder, with no volcanos.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 09:20 AM

View Postlittle_dreamer, on 22 November 2012 - 01:16 AM, said:

Oh certainly, just come over here and take over, not a problem.

Although the U.K. would make a very nice 51st state.  Islands like Hawaii, just a little colder, with no volcanos.

Nah, the Hawaiians are more productive. Would just have to spend more money on subsidies.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:25 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 22 November 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

Nah, the Hawaiians are more productive. Would just have to spend more money on subsidies.

with a keen eye i've notice Q, you have changed your location - from Greece to now both Greece and the USA haling from Iowa, if im correct? Things hotting up just a little to much in Greece? 'if you cant stand the heat get outta the kitchen.  :whistle:

Hawaii has a nice flag though dont you think. very fitting. :clap: https://www.google.c...iw=1366&bih=596

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:51 PM

Firstly: I do not belive that the UK is Top in terms of Soft Power. It is such an intangible concept as to be irrelevant.

Secondly, the Quenn can only dissolve a Parliament in any Nation if requested to do so by an outgoing Parliament (when National Elections are called). She has no Independent power to do so...





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