Hi Chimp -- I think if we follow your *general* line of reasoning, then Derrick Bird should have been on a "watch list". He was under severe stress as taxi driver; the taxation people were persecuting him; his twin brother betrayed him; and possibly other reasons ...
I'm not arguing about that I'm arguing about pulling two names out at random like its supposed to defeat my argument.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,: Than are dreamed of in your philosophy. Act II, scene 2:.. Hamlet
Posted 08 October 2011 - 05:34 PM
Chimpanzee, on 05 October 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:
A whole list of people should be banned from the jobs it isnt just homosexuals.
Would you let someone who was the victim of child abuse become a Prison Guard looking after sex offenders?
Would you let a KKK member be a Policeman and expect him to behave professionally with black suspects?
Anybody that can have issues against other types of people should be banned from those jobs and yes that includes homosexuals because many will have issues regarding discrimination and hate crime suspects.
Whoa there buddy. I was a victim of child abuse. That has nothing to do with prisoners who are sex offenders if I was a guard. More about who it was that perpetrated the violence against me. yes it was a family member but then it was ok back in the old days to beat the crap out of your kids. If you are making such generalized statements then you would also be out of a job for being judgmental. There are a lot of police, prison guards etc. who behave un -professionaly toward inmates and they may have none of the issues you mentioned. In fact a lot of people who have any power can and do abuse it. And anyone can snap under stress.
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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:09 PM
I have mixed opinions over this.
I think that if they were convicted of having sexual relations with someone under 21 at the time of the offence.
Then it shouldn't be taken away. Because at the time it was classed as child abuse.
Also loitering with intent is a crime. I mean maybe i'm wrong but isn't that having sex in public places, which again is illegal.
So again that shouldn't be stricken from the record.
But if it was someone been convicted of just been gay, then of course take it away
I dont think Homosexuals should be allowed in the Police, Prison Service, Justice system or allowed to become solicitors.
Looking at the strength of their overeactions on these forums alone I think many are incapable of behaving professionally should they encounter people accused of hate crimes, discrimination or in fact guilty of them.
I think the state should keep a database of all homosexuals as a screening aid should they apply for a job connected to any of the above. Old records should be added to the new. Those will convictions from a time when homosexual acts were illegal may be more prone to unprofessional behaviour that others.
To commit a homosexual crime requires two things not one -
1. Homosexual urges.
2. A willingness to violate societies laws.
As they were also guilty of the second their details should remain on the Police Database. This is because they have already demonstrated they will break laws to satisfy their urges. I bet a large amount of them do drugs as an example.