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#16    Waspie_Dwarf

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:43 PM

View PostBavarian Raven, on 20 June 2013 - 11:34 PM, said:

That money, if provided to Nasa yearly, could make a world of difference in space exploration imho.

Actually it would increase NASA's budget by only about 16%. Significant but hardly a world of difference.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:47 PM

View Postdanielost, on 20 June 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

there is something wrong with that, if your not the lead you don't control.

We are partners in several space programs and lead in many more.  We have been to the moon and, as I said, i think that commercial interests will be going there soon for myriad reasons so let them.  NASA is about breaking new ground, doing things that aren't profitable, at the moment, but worth doing nonetheless and capturing and returning an asteroid is huge in my book.  Think of what we could find on these ancient travelers.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:47 PM

Nasa needs to lead in the research. Most companies won't do a lot of research, unless hey see profit in it.  Part of that research needs to be habitates.

Another thing to think about.  Of all the colonists that came to america, only one group came to stay.  Everyone else was coming here t. get rich.  They were then going to go back to civilization.

Look a what came from that single group.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:53 PM

View Postdanielost, on 20 June 2013 - 11:47 PM, said:

Nasa needs to lead in the research. Most companies won't do a lot of research, unless hey see profit in it.  Part of that research needs to be habitates.

Another thing to think about.  Of all the colonists that came to america, only one group came to stay.  Everyone else was coming here t. get rich.  They were then going to go back to civilization.

Look a what came from that single group.

A commercial enterprise will be able to design a habitat and getting rich is what America is all about, or used to be.  it is a great motivator and most of our progress is directly related to that motive.  only recently has getting rich become an insult.  Just think of the panspermia theory and what we could discover if an asteroid contained ancient bacteria.  How mind boggling would that be?

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:00 AM

I didn't mean there was anything wrong with profit.  I don't know how much tech./profit from all of naa's research.

I heard on the show the universe, that we get to the nearest star in 46 years.  I don't know if that means right now or in the near future.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:01 AM

View PostMerc14, on 20 June 2013 - 11:53 PM, said:



A commercial enterprise will be able to design a habitat and getting rich is what America is all about, or used to be.  it is a great motivator and most of our progress is directly related to that motive.  only recently has getting rich become an insult.  Just think of the panspermia theory and what we could discover if an asteroid contained ancient bacteria.  How mind boggling would that be?

Unless that rock came from an impact with earth.

Edited by danielost, 21 June 2013 - 12:02 AM.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:02 AM

Was the Asteroid capture ever a serious project or just a project put forward so NASA didn't have to fully contemplate the proposal put forward by the Mars Society, this new project, bases on the moon could even use some of the same technology or Ideas developed by the Mars society ? could it ?


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 01:31 AM

View Postciriuslea, on 21 June 2013 - 12:02 AM, said:

Was the Asteroid capture ever a serious project or just a project put forward so NASA didn't have to fully contemplate the proposal put forward by the Mars Society, this new project, bases on the moon could even use some of the same technology or Ideas developed by the Mars society ? could it ?

http://www.usatoday....apture/2071635/
http://en.wikipedia....steroid_capture

Edited by Merc14, 21 June 2013 - 01:34 AM.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:25 AM

We will need to use non-poluting energy sources.  Solar could work during the day. A martian day is twenty four hours, almost the same as earth's is.  How ever the moons day is about two earth weeks long, meaning its night is about three weeks long.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:58 AM

As a previous poster pointed out, if we could perfect the technology first with an established colony on our own satellite, perhaps eventually capturing an asteroid later would be more efficient.  We would benefit from such an approach imo.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 03:20 AM

View PostEnderOTD, on 21 June 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

As a previous poster pointed out, if we could perfect the technology first with an established colony on our own satellite, perhaps eventually capturing an asteroid later would be more efficient.  We would benefit from such an approach imo.

Why do we require NASA and tax dollars to do that?  The reality is that there are limited dollars and corporate america is going there anyways so do the high science thing.

Edited by Merc14, 21 June 2013 - 03:23 AM.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 11:18 AM

View PostMerc14, on 21 June 2013 - 03:20 AM, said:



Why do we require NASA and tax dollars to do that?  The reality is that there are limited dollars and corporate america is going there anyways so do the high science thing.

For most of nasa's life, it has returned three dollars for ever one given.  Not sure if that holds true right now with usd payig russia to take us to the station.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:28 PM

View PostCollateral Damage, on 20 June 2013 - 08:15 PM, said:

You read my mind. Perhaps that 3+Billion/year to Israel should be going to much greater causes... That's just my opinion, though.
While I'd like NASA to be able to do both, where do you suggest the money comes from?  I'm sure the Republicans will kick in their fair share since they want NASA to go to the moon. :whistle:


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:37 PM

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 20 June 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:

How about we avoid bring off topic Middle-Eastern politics into this and actually discuss NASA's future.
I wasn't bringing anything off topic to discussion. How about I speak whatever's on my mind; whether you like it or not. Taking 3+Billion/year and giving it to NASA is surely a discussion of its future. Yes, cancel the asteroid mission, and begin a moon base. Happy?

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 11:55 PM

Do you guys remember airport 2.  They were using a nasa style shuttle to take passengers to the moon.  That isn't to far off from what we need for a three day trip.

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