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#61    Obviousman

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 12:39 PM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 27 November 2010 - 12:12 PM, said:

two people...one was a law student other one was 19 years old milk man, both didn't know about Apollo much...i showed the press conference image...law student said "these guys look like thinking seriously"  "some thing very sad happened to them" and when i asked milk boy "are they looking happy or sad"? he replied "some thing very sad may be some body died " when i cleared who they were but both of them still kept their same idea about that event....after this incident i am more sure if you ask 100 people(who don't know them) 100 of them will find Apollo guys sad or worried.

I showed the footage to around 350 people at a conference today and asked them what they thought. They all agreed that these were people who had completed a large task successfully, that they were tired but very proud.

Not one person thought they looked guilty.


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Posted 27 November 2010 - 02:56 PM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 27 November 2010 - 12:12 PM, said:

two people...one was a law student other one was 19 years old milk man, both didn't know about Apollo much...i showed the press conference image...law student said "these guys look like thinking seriously"  "some thing very sad happened to them" and when i asked milk boy "are they looking happy or sad"? he replied "some thing very sad may be some body died " when i cleared who they were but both of them still kept their same idea about that event....after this incident i am more sure if you ask 100 people(who don't know them) 100 of them will find Apollo guys sad or worried.

:rolleyes:


Well, you don't know much about Apollo either.

I search for the point in this post...but then again, I usually do with your posts.


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Posted 28 November 2010 - 05:35 AM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 26 November 2010 - 04:39 AM, said:

Really? Because the scant 'evidence' (I use that term very loosely) you have presented in the moon hoax thread and it's subsequent rebuttal by those who would know such things suggests differently.
i just showed the picture (not the footage)of press conference to the people who are unknown about moon landing stories...i think it is best to show these category people in order to achieve neutral survey reports...in this case there are no chance of having prejudice...here came my friend (goldsmith)29 years old i showed him the picture he said" looking very serious...like some thing serious happened to them or going to happen" when i said they supposed to coming back from moon trip then he added "may be tired as well"...i will try to post partiality less comments of people here so survey's spirit can be kept fare.

Edited by rajeev shagun, 28 November 2010 - 05:49 AM.


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Posted 28 November 2010 - 05:04 PM

View PostMID, on 27 November 2010 - 02:56 PM, said:

:rolleyes:


Well, you don't know much about Apollo either.

I search for the point in this post...but then again, I usually do with your posts.
As you said i know little about Apollo...in my little brain all i can think is that Apollo was the an orbital machinery and it never went beyond low earth orbits but the guys whom i showed the still image of press conference, they don't even know that somebody once claimed to be walked on the moon...for them going to the moon or going to the space is same thing...
p.s.- my post to Slave2F "survey's spirit can be kept fare" please read FAIR instead FARE.


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Posted 28 November 2010 - 11:01 PM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 28 November 2010 - 05:04 PM, said:

As you said i know little about Apollo...in my little brain all i can think is that Apollo was an orbital machinery and it never went beyond low earth orbits

We are aware of that.  We are also aware that your "little brain" is the size it is because you have refused to make the effort to engage in the learning process which you have been guided toward.


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but the guys whom i showed the still image of press conference, they don't even know that somebody once claimed to be walked on the moon...for them going to the moon or going to the space is same thing...

Your "little brain" assumes far too much. That is symptomatic of your thought patterns.
However, it's also symptomatic of your reticence to learn what's been presented to you, something that your "guys" do not have the benefit of, nor the benefit of anyone instructing them in the particulars of the Apollo program.  In fact, we have no idea if they've ever been taught anything about it, or if they're even curious.

For instance, you assume that they think that going into space and going to the Moon are the same thing.
They are the same thing, of course, save the idea of landing on another world and exploring its surface.


You show them stills of three men, unknown to them (how is that possible in 2010?**)and ask them for their visceral perceptions of what their expression shows.

** A somewhat rhetorical question, as even in America, I could probably show those pictures to people in school, and some who have graduated college, and they wouldn't know who they are,  I could even ask who the first men on the Moon are and alot of American young people (and adults) whouldn't know.  You are a sign of the times...

They have no idea of the context, nor of the program, nor of who these men actually are, and perhaps in your mind, you expect that their off-the-cuff impressions mean something?

Further, you also think that those initial impressions (derived from what experiential knowledge no one knows) are somehow significant here?

I asked you what your point was.  You failed to answer, again.

I can derive that your point is that the impressions of some "guys", completely lacking in knowledge of space flight or, obviously, its history,or the programs that the United States and the former Soviet Union engaged in, are somehow confirming of your skewed impression that these three men, heroes all, pilots of integrity and character, all former or active military men who had spent the past six years completely devoted to the mission that they'd just completed,  lied about their mission to the Moon, and that they were covering up something in this press conference, when all they were doing was describing their mission for the press, who all completely accepted that they had in fact done it.

That brain of yours needs some expansion.

Your evidentiary ramblings, and your use of this ridiculous concept, falls far short.


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Posted 29 November 2010 - 03:12 PM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 28 November 2010 - 05:04 PM, said:

stupid nonsense as always

Your Internet seems to be working again, maybe you could answer all those questions which you couldn't answer because of it in the other thread...

For the record, I showed your post's to a colleague who knows little about Apollo, he thought you are a trolling Liar...  
See how easy it is to invent such statements?


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Posted 30 November 2010 - 04:18 AM

RAMBALDI- my conscious never allows me to invent fouls events... It is public place here and we all should try to be pure here... Last night i showed the press conference image to secondary school boy he said " they are looking like  in  sorrow ...may be the funeral " but he has heard of moon hoax before when i told him who these people were but he still couldn't understand why they were that sad.


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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:23 AM

See how they avoid answering the questions asked of them? I'm sure there is a word for people like that.


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Posted 01 December 2010 - 02:19 AM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 30 November 2010 - 04:18 AM, said:

RAMBALDI- my conscious never allows me to invent fouls events... It is public place here and we all should try to be pure here... Last night i showed the press conference image to secondary school boy he said " they are looking like  in  sorrow ...may be the funeral " but he has heard of moon hoax before when i told him who these people were but he still couldn't understand why they were that sad.



So?
What's it matter?   Hasn't this type of experiment of yours been addressed already.

The issue's been pretty well done with.


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Posted 01 December 2010 - 02:20 AM

View PostObviousman, on 30 November 2010 - 05:23 AM, said:

See how they avoid answering the questions asked of them? I'm sure there is a word for people like that.


yes...

it's:   "rajeev shagun"


It's an m.o. he has defined time and time again...


:yes:


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Posted 02 December 2010 - 01:28 AM

People, this has degenerated into name calling. Stop it please and let's get back on topic.

Thank you.

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 12:24 PM

Night before last ,i showed this image  to Maxime ,25 years old ,graduate in math...he knew these people but i didn't tell him about which event it was ...he said " looking worried" When i told about post flight p.c. He was...just speach less.


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Posted 02 December 2010 - 12:39 PM

View PostSolarPlexus, on 24 November 2010 - 05:26 PM, said:

Hi quillius :)


The interview was held on August 12 1969. in Houston, Texas

The Apollo 11 space flight landed the first humans on Earth's Moon on July 20, 1969

The interview was held 23 days after the Moon landing :) (3 weeks after)

Do the people who just completed the greatest accomplishent in human history look like this?


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Hey guys! you’ve just went to the moon!
What’s going on? Cheer up!
Later in Europe, they seem very uncomfortable ?

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Were they exploited ? Something is definitely wrong !
They went into this state after they heard about the moon landing ?


Edited by Ove, 02 December 2010 - 01:35 PM.


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Posted 02 December 2010 - 01:42 PM

View PostMID, on 01 December 2010 - 02:20 AM, said:

yes...

it's:   "rajeev shagun"


It's an m.o. he has defined time and time again...


:yes:

I have avoided voicing an opinion simply because it would be just that. If I were asked to provide any form of evidence to support my opinion then ofcourse I would not be able to.

However I have decided to put forward my thoughts on the video. Personally I think there is something not right...I do not believe they specifically lie but there seems to be another layer thats not discussed (avoided).

Do i think they landed on the moon...yes 99% sure of this.
DO I think they have seen something or are witholding some information from their trip....yes I do.
Is it to do with ET....couldnt even begin to guess.

My opinion is based simply on the body language, tone and micro expressions seen in the video.

I appreciate MID's stern stance and defence of the video and the individuals concerned, with all due respect MID, I do not believe that if there was more to it you would just (if you knew) post it here on UM...

Finally, we have no evidence to dispute the comments put forward by MID and therefore must publicly accept this as truth, however I am sure I along with some others will keep an element of doubt for safekeeping.


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Posted 02 December 2010 - 06:59 PM

But quillius, Apollo 11 was broadcasted live from start to finish, with amateur radio enthusiasts listening in to the raw signals. There was pretty much no room for secrecy here.

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