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[jules99]

the L, on 06 July 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

Just opposite it can slip from your hand.

EDIT:Thanks Swede.

Hi the L
I heard some of the lenses were lathe turned which would account for the round shape

[ShadowSot]

Earl.Of.Trumps, on 05 July 2012 - 12:07 AM, said:

"Unlike other civilizations, they're not mentioned in the Christian Bible or Jewish holy books."

Well the Sumerians may not be mentioned by those holy books but the Jews sure cribbed the book of genesis from the sumerians. I know that is controversial but when the sumerians mention the creation,garden of eden, Adamu and Eve,
and a lot of other things similar, it makes you wonder.

christians claim it may be the same story but simply that god relayed twice, once to the sumerians, and once to the jews




Here's some Sumer more weirdness, "the Book of Kings"
http://en.wikipedia....erian_King_List - their all as old as Methusela until a certain point in time, right after the death of Gilgamesh... weird.

The Sumerian kingslist probably represents where mythological record started to become historical.
And certainly much of the Jewish mythology came from the other cultures in the area. Part of the creation myth sounds much like the Egyptian primordial mound for example.

[texaskat]

Several years ago I bought a book at a garage sale for 25 cents called - The Bible as History.  Truly amazing.  Scriptures are quoted mentioning where a town was that is no longer visable.  After excavations in the place where the Bible says it is, it is found.  The People in Israel now are using the Bible to plant crops, location, time, etc. and that is working fine for them.  How to irrigate the land to produce crops, etc.

Thanks,
texaskat

[Aus Der Box Skeptisch]

texaskat, on 10 July 2012 - 03:18 AM, said:

Several years ago I bought a book at a garage sale for 25 cents called - The Bible as History.  Truly amazing.  Scriptures are quoted mentioning where a town was that is no longer visable.  After excavations in the place where the Bible says it is, it is found.  The People in Israel now are using the Bible to plant crops, location, time, etc. and that is working fine for them.  How to irrigate the land to produce crops, etc.

Thanks,
texaskat

Might work well as a tool for Israel but I wonder what would happen if they tried using it for that in Alaska or Siberia... LOL

[Harte]

Earl.Of.Trumps, on 05 July 2012 - 12:07 AM, said:

"Unlike other civilizations, they're not mentioned in the Christian Bible or Jewish holy books."

Well the Sumerians may not be mentioned by those holy books but the Jews sure cribbed the book of genesis from the sumerians. I know that is controversial but when the sumerians mention the creation,garden of eden, Adamu and Eve,
and a lot of other things similar, it makes you wonder.

Here is an example of the confusion caused by Archaeology referring to all the ancient Mesopotamian cultures as "Sumerian."

This term applies only because Sumerian was the "official" (meaning governmental) and religious language of several cultures there.

This would include the Babylonians, from whom the Hebrews got the stories you mention (and not from the pre-Babylonian culture of Sumer, though that is where the Babylonians got some of it.)

Earl.Of.Trumps, on 05 July 2012 - 12:07 AM, said:

Here's some Sumer more weirdness, "the Book of Kings"
http://en.wikipedia....erian_King_List - their all as old as Methusela until a certain point in time, right after the death of Gilgamesh... weird.

Called "Sumerian" because it was written in Sumerian (as I have explained,) the list dates to the Middle Bronze Age (by your own link) which was ushered in over a hundred years after Sumer fell to the Akkadians (Sargon the Great.)

Your link is to a later version compiled during Babylonian times, not Sumerian.  It (again, from your link) was put together as a political tool.

Harte

[Ghost45]

The 2 picture looks like it has two animals , the sea goat(Capricorn) we is generally seen as the symbol for Ea(Water), and the eagle which is seen as a symbol for Enlil(air).

[the L]

Ghost45, on 26 August 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

The 2 picture looks like it has two animals , the sea goat(Capricorn) we is generally seen as the symbol for Ea(Water), and the eagle which is seen as a symbol for Enlil(air).

Hi Ghost45 and welcome to the UM!
Interesting post because far as I know Giraffe dont dwell in water.

[stereologist]

I am guessing here about the glass piece. I imagine that the round object is round because of ancient manufacturing methods. Poured glass "dripped" onto a surface forms round shapes. Also, grinding is easier if there are no corners sticking out.

Here is an article in which someone suggests that one way to make a lens is to melt a thing string of glass. The bulk of the article is on the lathe technique for making a lens.
http://www.microscop...06/aalens2.html