Laze Posted July 17, 2005 #1 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Well my description and topic name pretty much sums up what I wanted to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted July 17, 2005 #2 Share Posted July 17, 2005 This question can never be answered. If you believe in god then you believe that he made everything, he was the starting point. Like dominos, he was the first, nothing has an influence on him. No one can possible tell how, if you believe in the guy, god came about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laze Posted July 17, 2005 Author #3 Share Posted July 17, 2005 yes thanks although I still wonder... if well ever know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laze Posted July 17, 2005 Author #4 Share Posted July 17, 2005 zeus maybe you can explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted July 17, 2005 #5 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Well it is mind bogglingly uncomprehendable...good luck though. I don't think we will ever know. It is impossible in many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted July 17, 2005 #6 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Why do SOME newbies ask these open questions in exactly the same manner? I have noticed that over the years and I wonder if anybody else has. There is no one God, Jesus never said that there is only one god. Find the passage in their bible that says such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laze Posted July 17, 2005 Author #7 Share Posted July 17, 2005 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laze Posted July 17, 2005 Author #8 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Zeus you hurt me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted July 17, 2005 #9 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I don't think that was what Laze was looking for Zeus. Laze, it is cool to be interested in these things, but all you are going to get from this thread are a few theories, some of them probably pretty crazy. There are no answers to questions like this, for example it would be like me saying what is the purpose of life? There are so many different answers and each person thinks that they are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laze Posted July 17, 2005 Author #10 Share Posted July 17, 2005 are the gods like us and we are like them but to smaller beings that we dont know about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted July 17, 2005 #11 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Laze, give it up! No one can possibly answer these questions. No one in the world knows the answers. You will just have to think for yourself as we are all doing. Asking questions like these will get you no where if you are looking to recieve one specific answer rather than debate a few theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laze Posted July 17, 2005 Author #12 Share Posted July 17, 2005 you know dont think im a dumb### for saying this but yesterday I was awake all day including am trying to calm down my brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laze Posted July 17, 2005 Author #13 Share Posted July 17, 2005 thanks for your time especially you ed you put a question to rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted July 17, 2005 #14 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I don't, but seriously, thinking about questions that you can never possibly get answers for really screws with your head. I know what you mean, my brain has gone into overdrive thinking of answers to such questions. Either leave it or pop down to the spirtuality forums to look at different theories from a religious point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laze Posted July 17, 2005 Author #15 Share Posted July 17, 2005 but remember a drop of wisdom is greater than a sea of power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted July 17, 2005 #16 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Laze, coming up with quotes like that is just annoying. Go to the spirituality forum. You won't find any answers unless you look at the ones religon has conjured up. I am not going to talk about this anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhomphaia Posted July 17, 2005 #17 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Yes, please go to the proper forums for this question, then I will be more than happy to give you a few of my own theories on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchiald Posted July 17, 2005 #18 Share Posted July 17, 2005 nothing created god.. to understand god look at the circle.. it has no beggining it has no end .. it has 0 vertices but yet it has 0 sides, in order for there to be a side there has to be a verticy.. but there isnt.. yet a circle can still be proven. so if i told you to draw a picture of a shape with no vertices and no sides. you would draw a circle... which shows how something comes from nothing which explains how god was never there but always there at the same time. do you understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbelly Posted July 17, 2005 #19 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Manchiald, You seem to have developed a Faith in the by-products of crushed and incinerated leaves of the saw-toothed variety, which mimic an outreached hand. I suggest you test that Faith. Abstain, and see if the insights you gain are truly intellectual, or even creative, for that matter. And if you do, ask yourself, and the individual cells that make you up, if they like being fumigated with insulting chemicals. Take care of what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdison Posted July 17, 2005 #20 Share Posted July 17, 2005 What created the Big Bang..? err...The big gun..! Seriously it's all a matter of faith. It's like saying, "Whats the concept of life?" Who really knows..? Mind juggling stuff this..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted July 17, 2005 #21 Share Posted July 17, 2005 why does there have to have been a so called "beginning"? I have this theory about the human mind not being able to understand the concept behind true Infinity / Eternity, resulting in the birth of "the beginning", theirfore resulting in a sense of the beginning, hence the birth of God/Religion and these endless questions arguing why we are here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchiald Posted July 17, 2005 #22 Share Posted July 17, 2005 (edited) What created the Big Bang..? err...The big gun..! Seriously it's all a matter of faith. It's like saying, "Whats the concept of life?" Who really knows..? Mind juggling stuff this..! 738195[/snapback] what caused the big bang, is all possibilities within nothing. now what was before that is not comprehendable to the human mind, all there could have been was the chaos of everything and nothing at all. TO LEADBELLY: I love weed. Mother nature influenced the growth of marijuana, and put it here for me. Its 100% natural and it goes str8 from the plant, to the blunt. If i vaped the weed it would be perfectly healthy as the only thing inhaled would be THC. But i dont own a vapo, so i use a blunt. I dont have a faith in it.. i dont idolize it or anything, but it does enhance the thinking part of your brain, which is 1 of many reasons weed is here. enhances thoughts, releaves stress, helps create an appitite, helps people who suffer from sleep deprivation.. it also can be made into clothing. It also helps cataracts caused by glockoma. Alchohal which is a man made substance, serves no advantages.. other then intoxicating the mind with a unpure substance which causes serious health damage (mainly to the brain and liver), yet people look at weed like it is the enemy, when instead you should be against ciggarets heroin meth blah blah blah because those substances arent pure. Do you understand? the damn gas and smog will kill you quicker then weed. so before you disregard weed as a plague, dont knock it till you try it. Edited July 17, 2005 by manchiald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eveningsky339 Posted July 17, 2005 #23 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I don't believe anything created God. Jesus said "I am the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end." One may wonder "How could God have existed for eternity? Surely there must be some beginning!" God is not bound by time or by anything else he created to keep the universe going in motion. So, really, He has existed forever by our standards, but not by His. Like Ed said, mind boggling stuff. It is foolish to worry yourself about such things, it should not keep you awake trying to calm your brain down. When Moses asked who God was, He simply said "I Am." Not I Was. Or I Will Be. Just I Am. God has always just been in the present, even in what we consider the past. Like I said, God is not bound by time. Just get some sleep dude. You have better things to do than worry about this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*~KaBoom! Posted July 17, 2005 #24 Share Posted July 17, 2005 "Wisdom begins in wonder." Albert Einstein, a believer in God, said that. I agree, and I don't believe that ALL people concerned with questions such as this, should just stifle their minds to silence as an option to the totally paranoid belief that they'll "go crazy" if they continue to consider these questions. That is akin to saying..."let's not grow, or wonder, or try to understand anything more. Let's just stay being stupid hillbillies, following someone elses' lead, because that is just easier..." Reminds me of "Planet of the Apes". Just because it may seem hard, doesn't mean your knee-jerk reaction should be defeatism. "Questioning everything", to paraphrase Einstein once again, is a perfectly natural and intelligent thing to do. And as well, it shows that a person willing to do so, is actually very considerate. Laze, I give you credit just for that... Keep seeking the answers to your questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchiald Posted July 18, 2005 #25 Share Posted July 18, 2005 jesus is not god, what religion thinks that need to be shot. jesus is gods son, sent here to die for our sins and return to his fathers side which is god.. which is the alpha and the omega.. and my circle fits here because a circle never begins and it never ends... which explains what god is, just goes on for an eternity never ending and never beggining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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