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[GeoLines]

Orientation is one of the most important parameters of any construction to determine which is possible even if the construction itself does not exist any longer.   The ancient city or temple from which the foundation remained exactly oriented to the sides of the world is still an excellent reference and can successfully carry out, for example, navigation functions. But only balloonists or cosmonauts will be able to use them.

Jim Alison in his article about the laws in the location of the ancient historical objects describes the line passing through the Easter Island and the row of other famous places. Among them - Filitosa, Hattusa, Constantinople  , which was chosen as the second point needed for building of orthodromy. But Rome is a great city, and for the specific point for drawing the line was accepted an obelisk, which stands on the square before the cathedral of St. Peter in Vatican.

As far as orthodromy is the shortest distance between two points on the surface of the globe with help of Google Earth was built the line connecting the Vatican and the center of Easter Island. It turned out that this line, besides the other properties, having pass through the Vatican, is its orientation to Easter Island. In other words, the symmetry axis of the Cathedral of St. Peter -is the exact direction to Easter Island.

This fact could be bravely to attribute to the category of amazing coincidences, if not tens of other historic constructions , also orientated not only to Easter Island, but to the other equally well-known objects. Though the distance between some points have proportional ratio.

Of course, Google Earth is not quite suitable tool for such measurements, but still it is sufficiently accurate to assume that some historical objects have the definite orientation connected with another object.

Lower the orientation of historical objects grouped in different directions are shown. On the interactive map, located at the end of the page are shown all discovered at the moment orientations. The map also displayed other laws that emerged at putting on it of all the lines. For example, the line orientation of the Parthenon at Tiwanaku, passes through the intersection of Nan Madol  meridian with latitude of Teotihuacan, and orientation line of the temple in Segesta on Easter Island intersects with the latitude of the Great Pyramid also on of Nan Madol meridian. Read more

[Leonardo]

GeoLines, on 18 April 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

As far as orthodromy is the shortest distance between two points on the surface of the globe with help of Google Earth was built the line connecting the Vatican and the center of Easter Island. It turned out that this line, besides the other properties, having pass through the Vatican, is its orientation to Easter Island. In other words, the symmetry axis of the Cathedral of St. Peter -is the exact direction to Easter Island.

Hello GeoLines, welcome to UM.

Regarding the above. This is a false correlation brought about by your modern knowledge of the significance of St Peter's Basilica, and Easter Island. In other words, an example of observer bias.

The symmetry axis of St Peter's is bound to pass through some location on land somewhere else on the planet. If it wasn't Easter Island, it might be Christmas Island - think of the 'theories' that would have produced! Anyway, the correlation is simply coincidental.

As for the apparent 'sympathetic orientation' of many ancient sites, well that is just evidence that many ancient cultures used common landmarks (asterisms, in many cases) to orient their constructions. This is not especially mysterious, or suggestive of 'links' between ancient cultures. Just that the sky is fairly similar to all cultures which are not far removed from each other in latitude.

[GeoLines]

Good day!
It's your choice to think so. In my article there are only facts.
Why ancient temples couldn't be aligned to unknown for us type of coordinates system?
For example, do you know about world grid? Maybe Ancient cultural object were placed in specific points of grid like this?

[Harte]

Leo (I am certain,) like myself, knows the "World Grid" is fringe fantasy, though I doubt that's what you meant.

Harte

[Englishgent]

Hi Geo. Welcome .
Your article may well provide facts, but they are coincidental facts nonetheless.
I tend to agree with Leonardo on this one. We could look at a lot of ancient monuments, buildings or even natural landmarks and come up with some connection if we wanted to. Pure coincidence and a wide use of mans imagination and wishful thinking

[questionmark]

Saint Peter's Basilica like all Catholic churches build before 1700 is oriented so the main doors face to the East, or the place where architects supposed Jerusalem to be.  And that was so since the first churches were build in Constantinople.

[GeoLines]

Englishgent, on 20 April 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

Hi Geo. Welcome .
Your article may well provide facts, but they are coincidental facts nonetheless.

Good day! As for me, too many coincidental facts. Have you watched interactive maps on site? What do you think about 3600 km here?

[Englishgent]

Hi Geo.
I am havng problems getting into the site to check out the 3600km link but will keep trying

[SlimJim22]

Been feeling drawn back to UM and glad to have been.

Warm welcome Geolines. Complements on your website. You clearly have the content for an enjoyable stay at UM.

Now I must confess to not havig any training in engineering or construction and my areas of research tend to be more down the angle of anthropomorphic tradition. I can't help but be open to the possiblity of a sophisticated tradition of knowledge going back into antiquity though I am not willing to immediately assume something of which evidence does not exist yet there is enough memaningful lore and symbolism that one could assume there is far more to reality than meets the eye.

I'll just mention a few things and you will hopefully see my train of thought.

So the orientation can be achieved through position of Sun, Moon and stars I am guessing a tool would have been needed.

The symbol for orientation could be the Sun Wheel so it is no wonder it has been taken by so many cultures. Some of them may have possessed knowledge of the mysteries but without other understanding the true meaning was overlooked. Another would be the more common Tau Ros going through different stages of development. Potentially the Celtic Cross was the most developed. Why? You may know Crichton Miller and his theory, which is quite relevant to your own hypothesis.

http://www.world-mys...s.com/sar_5.htm

A mention on your site may be called if you are looking to take your hypothesis further. The Celtic or Rosy Cross is the symbol taken by the Rosicrucians, a true mystery to many but still active today exoterically and esoterically.

Where else beyond Celtic and Nordic lands would we find the CRoss or Sun Wheel. Definitely Asia and really anywhere megaliths aligned to the grid are found. That would mean Egypt, South America, Japan and Easter Island. I would say the name Easter is more meaningful than Christmas. If anything Xmas is a dumbed down festival of the rebirth of the Sun even being moved away from actual date of the solstice. This year, being of the dragon is when old knowledge will become of absolute importance. It starts with knowing the meaning of Easter so not only that Easter Island aligns there but that nae being chosen is also either coincidence, synchronicity or deliberate plant from some tradition even if the full meaning was not yet understood.

Perhaps we have some level of knowing that goes deeper that scientific research and common knowledge. I don't know what Masonry is really like today, I have the impression of old boys clubs, a few false awakenings and a lot of roleplay but originally it was operative so knowledge of architcture, masonry and orientation was originally a big part of that mystery tradition of which I' ve touched.

The key equation is:-

Cross
+
Serpents
+
Pillars
+
Stars and planetary bodies
+
A Phoenician dude called Hiram Abif who built an imaginary palace with lots and lots of deep symbolism.

= Masonry and other occult groups possess the potential knowledge of an anciient architectural and mysterious culture who deliberately sailed the globe using certain symbols and without knowing why maybe they built megalithic monuments on specific locations around the world.

We can only speculate why or how they would do it and as long as you work with the evidence you have you should be able to establish a very strong theory that is compatible with those of say Lovelock or Sheldrake. Unexplainable things becoming explained is not magic it is cyveernetic.

Flaming Jayce of Canopus fame fleeing C men,
T Moist Isa makes it rain whenever the Puni arrive to trade with the pani punani,
Shiva, Shoda, a faer told her,
Falling Phaeton and Cygnus friend provide the hint,
it is not the end,

Ignite your torches, the demise of the Ley men will be like a Phoenix meeting the Dragon and knowing what is what... The Goldmen will die in  their krypts, they will not hide the treasures of the dragon for Vortigen is the rightful son of Mer Line, Plumbline, pseudo-cyber-sianara.

YO 126 CCCCCCCC)))))))))

[Time Spy]

GeoLines, on 18 April 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

Orientation is one of the most important parameters of any construction to determine which is possible even if the construction itself does not exist any longer.   The ancient city or temple from which the foundation remained exactly oriented to the sides of the world is still an excellent reference and can successfully carry out, for example, navigation functions. But only balloonists or cosmonauts will be able to use them.

Jim Alison in his article about the laws in the location of the ancient historical objects describes the line passing through the Easter Island and the row of other famous places. Among them - Filitosa, Hattusa, Constantinople  , which was chosen as the second point needed for building of orthodromy. But Rome is a great city, and for the specific point for drawing the line was accepted an obelisk, which stands on the square before the cathedral of St. Peter in Vatican.

As far as orthodromy is the shortest distance between two points on the surface of the globe with help of Google Earth was built the line connecting the Vatican and the center of Easter Island. It turned out that this line, besides the other properties, having pass through the Vatican, is its orientation to Easter Island. In other words, the symmetry axis of the Cathedral of St. Peter -is the exact direction to Easter Island.

This fact could be bravely to attribute to the category of amazing coincidences, if not tens of other historic constructions , also orientated not only to Easter Island, but to the other equally well-known objects. Though the distance between some points have proportional ratio.

Of course, Google Earth is not quite suitable tool for such measurements, but still it is sufficiently accurate to assume that some historical objects have the definite orientation connected with another object.

Lower the orientation of historical objects grouped in different directions are shown. On the interactive map, located at the end of the page are shown all discovered at the moment orientations. The map also displayed other laws that emerged at putting on it of all the lines. For example, the line orientation of the Parthenon at Tiwanaku, passes through the intersection of Nan Madol  meridian with latitude of Teotihuacan, and orientation line of the temple in Segesta on Easter Island intersects with the latitude of the Great Pyramid also on of Nan Madol meridian. Read more

So tell me in your opinion.  What does this mean?  What is the relation?  Is it an ancient connection of race and correspondence, Nephilim...?

[GeoLines]

SlimJim22, on 21 April 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

Warm welcome Geolines. Complements on your website. You clearly have the content for an enjoyable stay at UM.

Thank you! Especially for Celtic Cross. I'll answer you soon.

Englishgent, on 21 April 2012 - 02:35 AM, said:

Hi Geo.
I am havng problems getting into the site to check out the 3600km link but will keep trying

Can you tell me what's up? Link is correct.

Time Spy, on 22 April 2012 - 02:00 AM, said:

So tell me in your opinion.  What does this mean?  What is the relation?  Is it an ancient connection of race and correspondence, Nephilim...?

Oh... I don't really know. But it may be paleocontact, for example...

[the L]

questionmark, on 20 April 2012 - 01:52 PM, said:

Saint Peter's Basilica like all Catholic churches build before 1700 is oriented so the main doors face to the East, or the place where architects supposed Jerusalem to be.  And that was so since the first churches were build in Constantinople.

What happened in 1700?

[the L]

http://geolines.ru/n...253f1c2963be7e3

What a surprise.
I knew that some would be in line with Nasca lines.

Edited by Melo, 22 April 2012 - 11:35 AM.

[questionmark]

Melo, on 22 April 2012 - 11:17 AM, said:

What happened in 1700?

Geography...

Mostly I was talking about the new churches build in the US that did not necessarily stick to those norms, in Europe the door still faces to the east in a new build unit.

[the L]

SlimJim22, on 21 April 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

Where else beyond Celtic and Nordic lands would we find the CRoss or Sun Wheel. Definitely Asia and really anywhere megaliths aligned to the grid are found. That would mean Egypt, South America, Japan and Easter Island.

Where did you found celtic cross in Egypt South America Japan and Easter Island?