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#31    FurthurBB

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 02:53 PM

View PostCoffey, on 15 November 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:


That is so true.



Erm.. The baby was dying and taking the mother with it..... I don't see how the second part of what you said is relevant in any way.



How is it murder if the baby was going to die anyway?


I think the only murder here was of the mother.  You do not even leave a woman in active labor with her cervix 100% dilated for that long because every minute it is open the risk of infection increases exponentially.


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Posted 17 November 2012 - 03:46 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 17 November 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

I agree.  Any Government which murders an innocent child needs to face the full weight of international law.
Have you not read the story? the child was dying!!!


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Posted 17 November 2012 - 04:45 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 17 November 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

I agree.  Any Government which murders an innocent child needs to face the full weight of international law.
I can't think of many that do murder children.


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Posted 17 November 2012 - 05:48 PM

View PostFurthurBB, on 17 November 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:



I think the only murder here was of the mother.  You do not even leave a woman in active labor with her cervix 100% dilated for that long because every minute it is open the risk of infection increases exponentially.


Exactly, that was murder.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 06:23 PM

This what the Church does, do nothing but end lives


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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:02 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 17 November 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

I agree.  Any Government which murders an innocent child needs to face the full weight of international law.
The child was already dead. The abortion was to remove the dead embryo before the woman followed.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 03:43 AM

Catholics don't like abortion because it means less children to molest.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:51 AM

Why is the right to life of the fetus greater than the right to life of the mother?


People are nutty, and this poor woman suffered a horrible death because of it.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:41 PM

View PostPurplos, on 18 November 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

Why is the right to life of the fetus greater than the right to life of the mother?


People are nutty, and this poor woman suffered a horrible death because of it.

I can't imagine what she went through!  Knowing the baby she wanted was dying and the doctors couldn't save it, feeling the baby die and then the infection taking over her body?  The whole while in such horrible pain.....cruel, cruel doctors.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 06:50 PM

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 08:47 PM

View Postkeithisco, on 15 November 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

Well... as I see it the abortion of a non - viable foetus is NOT murder. What IS murder is the part that the Roman Catholic Church imposes on Nation States in determining their Laws when it affects non- Catholics. Separation of Religion and State is what is at stake here - I do not want to be forced into accepting Hysterical, Jihadist - like, Christian doctrines when my own belief system believes them to be nothing more than subjugation of my own personal rights..
The Irish Govt needs to face Negligent Manslaughter charges, IMO

Depends on the circumstances.. in this particular case if a Catholic Priest had been present I think he would of asked to save the Mother if he knew the baby was going to die. I know this for a fact because I was given the 'last rites' by a Priest with regard to a pregnancy that had gone terribly wrong, the baby wasn't going to survive no matter what intervention and I was critically ill and he gave me his blessing

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 08:59 PM

Horrible..

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:23 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 17 November 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

I agree.  Any Government which murders an innocent child needs to face the full weight of international law.
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 07:27 AM

View Postsmurf0852, on 24 November 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

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Some people don't take the time to read the article and the circumstances to make a knowledgeable post.  It seems that the world is black and white and they will not change their opinion.  It is quite sad really.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:32 PM

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Belfast, Northern Ireland (CNN) -- The husband of a woman who died after being refused an abortion in Ireland will take the case to the European Court of Human Rights, his lawyer said Thursday....

....Despite two other government investigations, Halappanavar decided to take the case to court because the Irish health minister had not agreed to a public inquiry into his wife's death by Thursday...

http://edition.cnn.c....html?hpt=hp_t3

What is the holdup on an inquiry?  You would think since this instance caused such a huge impact on the news worldwide that the Irish Government would want to deal with it ASAP.  Do they think it is just going to go away?

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