SwampgasBalloonBoy Posted January 19, 2013 #26 Share Posted January 19, 2013 maybe you just didnt get what I read.. or how it could be read... if the ISS really had ufo's flying by regularly...dont you think it'd be worldwide news? Or do you think its all covered up? Hence the public feeds.. I though you're alluding to "shigtings" which sound like ****ting since you throw in freudian slip. it wasn't worldwide news because it wasn't definitive of what it could be and they think it's just SPACE JUNKS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimOberg Posted January 19, 2013 #27 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Some people would say it's space junk, but space junk dont do that. I doubt you really know WHAT 'space junk' can and cannot do, but maybe it doesn't matter, because I agree that these videos RARELY show the traditional 'space junk'. I've explained why, in my "99 FAQs About Space UFOs" [www.jamesoberg.com/ufo.html] which I've urged people to read as background and basis for further discussion of these strange-looking, fascinating, and even occasion ally important videos deserve. Without that background, all discussion to this point has been pointlessly wasted time, I suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 19, 2013 #28 Share Posted January 19, 2013 :w00t: :w00t: I just looked at the above FB page..if YOU do, and scroll down, there is a vid with following splash screen. click for big Freudian slip maybe? sightings shmightings ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 19, 2013 #29 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Space Junks? Seeing one of these in orbit would surely be proof of Ancient Astronauts .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherSide1945 Posted January 19, 2013 #30 Share Posted January 19, 2013 It also says that the ISS "has been orbiting the Earth since 1989". When in reality the ISS is a modular structure whose first component was launched in 1998. this is true. i wouldn't trust this video on this fact alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted January 19, 2013 #31 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I was merely point out the fact that many debunkers were quick to dismissed as "space junks". Shouldn't they should have try to see if it's authentic or not before throwing out "debris" "junks" and such? Assuming that a UFO is the real deal (an alien craft) could lead down the path of cherry-picking (trying to find support for what one wants to be true). A better way (I think) is to do this by falcification (any evidence that helps to establish the falsity of a claim can be important) just to see if the claim holds water. Always check the source, if there is the slightest doubt, thats a red flag right there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampgasBalloonBoy Posted January 20, 2013 #32 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Assuming that a UFO is the real deal (an alien craft) could lead down the path of cherry-picking (trying to find support for what one wants to be true). A better way (I think) is to do this by falcification (any evidence that helps to establish the falsity of a claim can be important) just to see if the claim holds water. Always check the source, if there is the slightest doubt, thats a red flag right there. Maybe I wasn't being clear, but I haven't assumed those to be legit alien craft. I am trying to say is that the footage should be authenticated first and foremost. If we can conclude that it haven't been mess with, then we can debate on what is captured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikeman25 Posted January 21, 2013 #33 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Space junk doesn't orbit the planet? . It doesn't take off at accelerated speeds like in this video or fly away from the planet like that . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikeman25 Posted January 21, 2013 #34 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Space junk doesn't orbit the planet? . It doesn't take off at accelerated speeds like in this video or fly away from the planet like that . Someone please tell me why this is anything but the usual space debris? Lol ... Give me a freaking break . Space debris does not haul ass or fly away from earth like that . Aliens could land in your back hard and you would still deny their existence . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 21, 2013 #35 Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) . It doesn't take off at accelerated speeds like in this video or fly away from the planet like that . Lol ... Give me a freaking break . Space debris does not haul ass or fly away from earth like that . Aliens could land in your back hard and you would still deny their existence . It's all about the camera angle. Nothing is hauling ass anywhere and all i see is objects that are in orbit. Edited January 21, 2013 by Imaginarynumber1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampgasBalloonBoy Posted January 22, 2013 #36 Share Posted January 22, 2013 It's all about the camera angle. Nothing is hauling ass anywhere and all i see is objects that are in orbit. You've got to admit the two identical objects moving in identical path does seemed unusual 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 22, 2013 #37 Share Posted January 22, 2013 You've got to admit the two identical objects moving in identical path does seemed unusual Not really. It could be two separate objects, or it could just be one. We can only see the parts that reflect sunlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampgasBalloonBoy Posted January 22, 2013 #38 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Not really. It could be two separate objects, or it could just be one. We can only see the parts that reflect sunlight. Even Jim Oberg admited this are rare(post # 27). who know, maybe you've seen more than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 22, 2013 #39 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Even Jim Oberg admited this are rare(post # 27). who know, maybe you've seen more than him. I don't know who Jim Oberg is. (Sorry Jim Oberg! ) And I honestly have no interest in reading a thread about space junk. I'm also not in the habit of immediately assuming any and all objects that are seen in space are alien or advanced craft when more prosaic explanations are more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 22, 2013 #40 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I don't know who Jim Oberg is. (Sorry Jim Oberg! ) And I honestly have no interest in reading a thread about space junk. I'm also not in the habit of immediately assuming any and all objects that are seen in space are alien or advanced craft when more prosaic explanations are more likely. James Edward Oberg (born November 7, 1944) (often known as Jim Oberg) is an American space journalist and historian, regarded as an expert on the Russian space program. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Oberg he's around quite a bit in various threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 22, 2013 #41 Share Posted January 22, 2013 James Edward Oberg (born November 7, 1944) (often known as Jim Oberg) is an American space journalist and historian, regarded as an expert on the Russian space program. http://en.wikipedia....iki/James_Oberg he's around quite a bit in various threads. Well, when I have questions about the Russian Space Program I know whom to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted January 22, 2013 #42 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Well, when I have questions about the Russian Space Program I know whom to ask. And if I have a question about deliberate ignorance, I know whom to ask. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 22, 2013 #43 Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) And if I have a question about deliberate ignorance, I know whom to ask. Whenever anyone needs to know about being a dick, we know who to turn to.... Edited January 22, 2013 by Imaginarynumber1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 22, 2013 #44 Share Posted January 22, 2013 And if I have a question about deliberate ignorance, I know whom to ask. was there any need for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted January 22, 2013 #45 Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) was there any need for that? Maybe not,... But I do think he knows who J.O is,... and that can answer more questions that just about the Russian space program. Edited January 22, 2013 by Hazzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verloc Posted January 22, 2013 #46 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Space debris or "junk", just don't shoot outwards from orbit around a planet.Around 47 sec you see 2 objects travelling outward, away from the planet.Impossible for space debris, it would have a predictable orbit around the planet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted January 22, 2013 #47 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Space debris or "junk", just don't shoot outwards from orbit around a planet.Around 47 sec you see 2 objects travelling outward, away from the planet.Impossible for space debris, it would have a predictable orbit around the planet. A good place to start would be to find out the date and time of said event/video. The information we have gathered so far isnt exactly doing wonders for the credibility (spelling errors and getting dates wrong) that should tell you something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verloc Posted January 22, 2013 #48 Share Posted January 22, 2013 True Hazzard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amerix Posted January 22, 2013 #49 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Space junk doesn't orbit the planet? Was just about to say that. It's space debris following orbit. Nothing too out of the ordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampgasBalloonBoy Posted January 23, 2013 #50 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Was just about to say that. It's space debris following orbit. Nothing too out of the ordinary. No saying you're wrong, but people acting like they see this stuff everyday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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