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#16    SurgeTechnologies

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 12:57 PM

No one will ever regulate my coffe consumption, over my dead body...I drink 1-2 coffe cups in the morning everyday i drink black coffe without sugar, well the original turkish coffe.. and that has very energetic effect on my body...Makes you feel more alive faster.. without it i am like zombie..

Just for info research has proven that 2-3 coffe cups a day are healthy in some ways.. but only coffe without any milk and creme, that has been proven to be poisonous for the body. I did my homework and when i saw their conclusons i know how to make it safe and usable.

Edit: I dont drink any energy drinks, or fizzy drinks or anything similar... Water and syrups are best and healthy,

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:10 PM

I just see it as i am not going to live forever no matter what i do.I have studied the human body extensively since i was 12 years old,since then i have come across obstacles i will never be able to completely overcome.I do not need some *******s who think they know best to tell me how to live the rest of my life.I will enjoy the time i have here to the best of my ability while still enjoying my life.If some do not like it they can kiss my ass.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:23 PM

Being diabetic and obese and having the money to afford some specialists has educated me about sugar.  Avoid it, especially in any sort of dissolved form, since then it goes straight into the system and confuses the daylights out of the insulin receptors as well as the pancreas.

Put milk in coffee and you have dissolved lactose.  Put sugar in and you have dissolved sucrose.  They both do the same thing.

I gave up alcohol, including wine and beer (somebody hold me up).  Now give up coffee?  No -- I'll take mine black.  That means I have to keep the pot and all very clean, and have to measure things properly as I make them, so that it isn't bitter, but fine.  It is wonderful when you do those things anyway.


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:29 PM

After venting first, I went back and read the article.  There is nothing there.  No study, just anecdotes, and them not primarily about coffee but about "energy drinks" that contain not just caffeine but loads of other things.  This is bad journalism and doesn't even approach being science.

The advice given above about moderation is well taken regardless.


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Posted 04 March 2013 - 03:05 PM

I've only been hearing how good coffee is for you...






  • http://www.medicalne...cles/247583.php
    [quote] In March 2011, research led by the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, that followed over 30,000 women for 10 years, found those who drank more than one cup of coffee per day appeared to have a 22 to 25% lower risk of stroke, compared to non-drinkers. The researchers also found that "low or no coffee consumption was associated with an increased risk of stroke in women"

  • In 2009, researchers in Finland and Sweden reported a study that followed over 1,400 people over 20 years, and found that those who drank 3 to 5 cups of coffee a day in their midlife years had a 65% lower chance of developing dementia and Alzheimer's disease compared with those who reported drinking no coffee at all or only occasionally.
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  • http://www.scienceda...91020162009.htm

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    Patients with chronic hepatitis C and advanced liver disease who drink three or more cups of coffee per day have a 53% lower risk of liver disease progression than non-coffee drinkers








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Posted 04 March 2013 - 03:27 PM

The "expert" is an alarmist, (in my opinion). If you consume a dozen energy drinks everyday, or several pots of coffee, or whatever your favorite caffeine laden beverage is, you might want to cut back. Moderation is the key to everything, you can make the claim that any substance in excess is dangerous, but ultimately it is up to the consumer to self control to "police" themselves as an individual, not a government agency. And, I have, in the past, abused energy drinks myself, and made myself stop because I was spending way too much money daily on them.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:22 AM

Stupidity is also dangerous but that seems to be allowed to run free.........


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:27 AM

These experts are a bunch of god damn morons.  Sure, it's unhealthy.  So are cigarettes, Burger King, and alcohol but I'll keep doing/using them.  Quit trying to regulate everything, we're suppose to be free people and I'll do what the **** I want.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:31 AM

How does one regulate booze or fast food let alone caffiene

The state of New York wants to small size soda cup lol just order 2.

Edited by The Silver Thong, 05 March 2013 - 06:33 AM.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:32 AM

I can only speak with regards to my bad-ass anxiety disorder.
Caffeine, or any stimulant will "set-me-off", so I avoid them at all costs.

Funny thing is, I used to be a very heavy coffee drinker, but I can't do that now at all.

Beer calms me down. Thank God for beer! Strong beer that is...   :passifier:

Edited by pallidin, 05 March 2013 - 06:37 AM.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:34 AM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 05 March 2013 - 06:31 AM, said:

How does one regulate booze or fast food let alone caffiene
Fat skank Michelle Obama has been trying to put taxes on junk food and soda for bit...  has she looked in the mirror?

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:41 AM

View PostCRYSiiSx2, on 05 March 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:


Fat skank Michelle Obama has been trying to put taxes on junk food and soda for bit...  has she looked in the mirror?

Nope it will be a sin tax on smokes and booze as the majority won`t fight a tax on that so tax the smokers tax the drinkers and keep the majority happy. Includding the fat ****`s that truely raise the cost of healthcare.   A 1% tax on junk food would work not an addition to an 80% tax on booze or smokes.

View Postpallidin, on 05 March 2013 - 06:32 AM, said:

I can only speak with regards to my bad-ass anxiety disorder.
Caffeine, or any stimulant will "set-me-off", so I avoid them at all costs.

Funny thing is, I used to be a very heavy coffee drinker, but I can't do that now at all.

Beer calms me down. Thank God for beer! Strong beer that is...   :passifier:

Holy schit we agree ;)

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:47 AM

It's not hard to show that if you tax something you get less of it.  Even consumption of something as addictive as cigarettes drops when taxes increase.

Another nice thing, from a politicians view, about taxing "sins" is that if produces revenue you can spend buying votes.

There are however drawbacks.  First, such taxes tend to hurt the poor more than the rich -- both because such "sins" are often more engaged in by the poor and second because even if they consume them equally as a proportion of income the tax hits the poor harder.

A second drawback is that taxation creates black markets and more profit for criminals.  A low level of taxes may not do that but set the level high enough to decrease use and black markets and smuggling begins.

So maybe enough taxes to help pay for costs on society the tax creates and to help pay for things like public education about the harms of it, but watch the black market closely and if activity begins then reduce the tax to remove the criminal profit.

A far better way to discourage "sins" is to nationalize their production, so that no one is profiting from it.  This seems hard to do in countries where capitalism has been sanctified as holy religion, and capitalism generally is the best way to produce things, but not things that are harmful.  There the profit motive of capitalism works against the public.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:52 AM

I use both stimulants when I'm feeling a little run down, depressants when I'm running too hot or sometimes both(coffee and whiskey) Take away both; oh boy, will I be causing some problems. Tax them though.... I'll just complain my butt off when I look at my atm balance..

View Postancient astronaut, on 04 March 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Moderation is the key to everything


Edited by Jinxdom, 05 March 2013 - 06:53 AM.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:05 AM

Most of us self-medicate our emotions all day long, to calm down and to stimulate us.  It can be dangerous and a certain fear should always be on one shoulder.

Still, there is often too much of a puritanical attitude about "popping pills."  Since I don't drink alcohol (liver), I don't have that calming mechanism, so I do use Valium, and it works, so long as you never use it to aid sleep and watch the daily dose carefully (actually I use it once or twice a week only).  I also use Prozac as my "happiness pill" and that deals with minor depression, along with fresh-air exercise and meditation.

Coffee is the topic here, and we all use it and tea as stimulants.  I generally prefer iced green tea, as Vietnam tends to be a warm place so it also helps with body heat.  A couple cups of good strong black coffee in the morning though and of course some high-quality coffee after dinner are part of what makes for a good life if you can't have wine.

As you get older sleep becomes a critical issue, and discipline regarding sleep hygiene becomes more and more important -- mainly rising at the same time every day, holiday or not and getting exercise and learning relaxation techniques.  Taking pills here is ill advised because none of them are free of bad effects (except perhaps Valerian -- a Chinese herb -- and melatonin, and the usefulness of these wears off quickly).






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