lolaivanna Posted December 5, 2014 #1 Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) I have had lucid dreaming and felt as though i was semi awake but could not fully awake up but is that not the same as astral projection ? confused whats the difference how do you know its astral travel e.t.c just curios thanks in advance !! Edited December 5, 2014 by ovakynd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted December 5, 2014 #2 Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) Lucid dreaming is when you become aware that you are dreaming. Once this awereness occur, you can then attempt to 'control' what you are doing in the dream, being fully conscious of your actions. It happened to me twice so far and it is something special.. It usually last about 30 secs - 1 min and then it fades away into a 'normal', typical dreaming state. But there are techniques and practices that can be attempted (with various degree of success) to try to purposedly induce lucid dreaming and maintain it for long periods of time. As for astral projection, it really depend of your belief system. Some people think that dreams are in fact astral travels.. Others believe that dreams are your inner world of consciouness and that astral projections is actually something different, a journey or the astral body (or consciousness) beyond oneself. I can suggest you some book titles to expand of these concepts: - Journey Out Of The Body by Robert Monroe (1992) - Far Journeys by Robert Monroe (1992) - Exploring The World Of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen Laberge and Howard Rheinhold (1991) - Lucid Dreaming: Gateway To The Inner Self by Robert Waggoner (2008) Edited December 5, 2014 by sam_comm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolaivanna Posted December 5, 2014 Author #3 Share Posted December 5, 2014 found this interesting !! hope it helps lol http://youtu.be/BIgtliwpElY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolaivanna Posted December 5, 2014 Author #4 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Lucid dreaming is when you become aware that you are dreaming. Once this awereness occur, you can then attempt to 'control' what you are doing in the dream, being fully counscious of your actions. It happened to me twice so far and it is something special.. It usually last about 30 sec - 1 min and then it fades away into a 'normal', typical dreaming state. But there are techniques and practices that can be attempted (with various degress of success) to try to purposedly induce lucid dreaming and maintain it for long period of time. As for astral projection, it really depend of your belief system. Some people think that dreams are in fact astral travels.. Others believe that dreams are your inner world of counsciouness and that astral projections is actually something different, a journey or your astral body beyond oneself. I can suggest you some book titles to expand of these concepts: - Journey Out Of The Body by Robert Monroe (1992) - Far Journeys by Robert Monroe (1992) - Exploring The World Of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen Laberge and Howard Rheinhold (1991) - Lucid Dreaming: Gateway To The Inner Self by Robert Waggoner (2008) this happened to me a lot to i felt i was in control for a long time but i could not awake when i wanted, and i woke up in a panic lol ... the dream itself was astonishing to say the least and has reoccured a number of times wondered if it was trying to tell me something this started me on a spiritual path ..really appreciate your reply so thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolaivanna Posted December 5, 2014 Author #5 Share Posted December 5, 2014 also had this experience as a child in fact i think more and i could go back in and out but to me then it was fun and i was not conscious of what it could be . so funny when you think of it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted December 5, 2014 #6 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I agree with sam... To my understanding, lucid dreaming is exactly what it sounds like- being lucid while you are dreaming. You are aware that you are dreaming while in the dream. Astral projection may differ depending on belief- but it is not part of the awareness while dreaming experience. It's projecting outside one's self. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxo1 Posted December 5, 2014 #7 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I have experienced two lucid dreams so far, both of which where I became aware of myself in my garden. I don't remember too much about it now, apart from thinking to myself I must be dead, because everything around me seemed to be dimly lit in a kind of twilight darkness, and I couldn't move very easily, more in a kind of sluggish way I guess is the best way to describe it. It wasn't soon after thinking I must be dead, that I suddenly realised I must be in a dream and it was me who was in this dream. I should have made written notes about those two lucid dreams at the time, because I'm sure there were other things I noticed in those dreams which I have forgotten about now. I was meditating when I experienced these two lucid dreams, and during the meditation, I became aware of the same starting process I experience when I start having an OBE. That's the buzzing in my ears, floating sensation and body vibrations. So did I have two OBE's or were they lucid dreams, who knows. After regaining consciousness with my eyes still closed, I had the most incredible blissfull feeling flowing through my body, which lasted for quite a while afterwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolaivanna Posted December 5, 2014 Author #8 Share Posted December 5, 2014 sounds wonderful oxo 1 that's how i want to feel after !! when i get more confident i hope for the same !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolaivanna Posted December 5, 2014 Author #9 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I agree with sam... To my understanding, lucid dreaming is exactly what it sounds like- being lucid while you are dreaming. You are aware that you are dreaming while in the dream. Astral projection may differ depending on belief- but it is not part of the awareness while dreaming experience. It's projecting outside one's self. so its more of your awake while it happens ? thanks for the reply much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted December 5, 2014 #10 Share Posted December 5, 2014 so its more of your awake while it happens ? thanks for the reply much appreciated I'm not too sure if awake is the right term- again, it depends on the belief on what projecting is. Some consider a meditative state not really awake or sleeping/dreaming. After all, dreaming happens while deeply sleeping. And deeply meditating isn't quite awake and fully aware of surroundings. But I do know for sure that being deeply asleep and dreaming/lucid dreaming- all in ones mind- is something different than whatever ones take on projecting is. If nothing else, projecting is leaving ones self, while dreaming is all in ones head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted December 6, 2014 #11 Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) I was meditating when I experienced these two lucid dreams, and during the meditation, I became aware of the same starting process I experience when I start having an OBE. That's the buzzing in my ears, floating sensation and body vibrations. It is probably no coincidence that my experiences of lucid dreaming came a few months after starting to practice mindfulness meditation. So it clearly seems to me that there is a correlation between meditation and lucid dreaming. If meditation can help you work on your visualization, mindfulness and awareness while you are awake and benefit from it, I don't see why it shouldn't have some impact while you are asleep as well. Edited December 6, 2014 by sam_comm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxo1 Posted December 6, 2014 #12 Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) It is probably no coincidence that my experiences of lucid dreaming came a few months after starting to practice mindfulness meditation. So it clearly seems to me that there is a correlation between meditation and lucid dreaming. If meditation can help you work on your visualization, mindfulness and awareness while you are awake and benefit from it, I don't see why it shouldn't have some impact while you are asleep as well. I must admit, I don't really put much effort into having lucid dreams, I'm just happy to go with the flow so to speak, and just let it happen when it does. I can't remember having any lucid dreams when I'm asleep, although I do seem to have some very vivid dreams sometimes, which seem to be too real in their content to be just ordinary dreams. I will also add that in my meditation I can go into a trance, which I believe is the state I'm in when I experience visions and lucid dreams. Edited December 6, 2014 by Oxo1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingAngel Posted December 9, 2014 #13 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Astral projection is when you are aware that you are dreaming (or aware that you are in a state that you know that it's not the reality) from the very start. Noticing that you just wake up from your bed. Lucid dreaming is occur usually when you are between a dream, and you suddenly realize that you are dreaming. It could be a lower state of consciousness : you know that you are dreaming but you don't have much control of your action; you follow your will. Whereas in AP you feel fully awake, sometime it's hard to tell if you are in the reality or in the dream world, unless you did a reality check. Beware, AP is scarier!! Edited December 9, 2014 by FlyingAngel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolaivanna Posted December 9, 2014 Author #14 Share Posted December 9, 2014 thanks for the reply !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolaivanna Posted December 9, 2014 Author #15 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I really wanna AP as soon as possible lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolaivanna Posted December 9, 2014 Author #16 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) I really wanna AP as soon as possible lol also im getting to thinking what i experienced is Wake Induced Lucid Dreams in my opinion it is a form of AP but just channeled through body asleep technique .. i feel its a out of body dream !! there's some belief system to on it in the Buddhism faith i believe please correct me if im wrong !! Edited December 9, 2014 by ovakynd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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