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#1    neerjah

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:45 AM

Can anyone help me in locating the real photos of Annaleise Michel? :unsure:  :mellow:


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:49 AM

Here are some: My Link

I was afraid that clicking on this thread I was going to have to see those pictures. Guess I was right.  :(

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 03:14 AM

They are horrible photos,and playing the audio tapes of her,are dangerous,in my opinion .
Don't look ,is my suggestion.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 03:24 AM

I listened to those years ago. I won't want to anytime again.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 05:25 AM

View Post_Only, on 16 April 2012 - 03:24 AM, said:

I listened to those years ago. I won't want to anytime again.
Exactly.
I mean,its like you're letting it into your space,by allowing the voice to actually reverberate in the place that you are at that moment,which is usually your home ?
Bbbaaaaddddd idea.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 08:58 AM

Oh Ya, these all are weird pictures of Annaleise Michel.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:45 PM

View Post_Only, on 16 April 2012 - 02:49 AM, said:

Here are some: My Link

I was afraid that clicking on this thread I was going to have to see those pictures. Guess I was right.  :(


I don't see any pics on this thread and no one forced you to respond with a link to the photos in question.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 03:20 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 16 April 2012 - 05:25 AM, said:

Exactly.
I mean,its like you're letting it into your space,by allowing the voice to actually reverberate in the place that you are at that moment,which is usually your home ?
Bbbaaaaddddd idea.
LOL. You honestly believe in demonic possession? What a crock of bull.


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 03:47 PM

She died of severe dehydration and malnourishment and at the time of her death was also suffering from Pneumonia and a high fever.  Clear that she was not given proper medical treatment that could have saved her life.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 03:58 PM

View PostSensible Logic, on 16 April 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

She died of severe dehydration and malnourishment and at the time of her death was also suffering from Pneumonia and a high fever.  Clear that she was not given proper medical treatment that could have saved her life.


Wasn't she also diagnosed with seizures as well?

I always find this horribly sad.  I think she was just a mentally and physically ill young woman.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 04:00 PM

She was probably schizophrenic or something like that, that would cause all the hallucinations.. And I just listened to her screams and they sound very fit for Funeral Winds vocalist :D

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 04:33 PM

She didn't have seizures,and she REFUSED to eat.
She would repeatedly slam her knees into the floor,and her head into the wall,in religious prostration.
She was initially given seizure meds,but her tests showed no legitimate seizure activity,and her parents I think,decided to stop giving her the meds.Id probably have done the same thing.
She did this to herself.
They tried to feed her,she refused.They tried to stop her from hurting herself,she couldn't be stopped.
Given her severe,self inflicted cachetia,her having a fever and pneumonia,are no surprise.
If she wouldn't eat,and had to be restrained half the time,how do you think she would have responded to meds or an IV infusion.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 04:55 PM

View PostHerNibs, on 16 April 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

Wasn't she also diagnosed with seizures as well?

I always find this horribly sad.  I think she was just a mentally and physically ill young woman.

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View PostEluveit, on 16 April 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

She was probably schizophrenic or something like that, that would cause all the hallucinations.. And I just listened to her screams and they sound very fit for Funeral Winds vocalist :D

She was originally diagnosed with seizures but the medicine didn't seem to help.  The exact medicine and dosage prescribed for her is unknown so the treatment may have been inaccurate and different meds or dosage may have helped.

Her symptoms indicate to some that she had multiple personality disorder and/or schizophrenia but I don't think she was ever treated for either

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 05:18 PM

View PostSensible Logic, on 16 April 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

She was originally diagnosed with seizures but the medicine didn't seem to help.  The exact medicine and dosage prescribed for her is unknown so the treatment may have been inaccurate and different meds or dosage may have helped.

Her symptoms indicate to some that she had multiple personality disorder and/or schizophrenia but I don't think she was ever treated for either


Ah, ok.  Wasn't sure if I had read it or something.  

She was a sad case.  

My opinion that she was physically and mentally ill hasn't changed.  :)

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 05:54 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 16 April 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

  • She didn't have seizures,and she REFUSED to eat.
  • She would repeatedly slam her knees into the floor,and her head into the wall,in religious prostration.
  • She was initially given seizure meds,but her tests showed no legitimate seizure activity,and her parents I think,decided to stop giving her the meds.Id probably have done the same thing.
  • She did this to herself.
  • They tried to feed her,she refused.They tried to stop her from hurting herself,she couldn't be stopped.
  • Given her severe,self inflicted cachetia,her having a fever and pneumonia,are no surprise.
  • If she wouldn't eat,and had to be restrained half the time,how do you think she would have responded to meds or an IV infusion.
Yes,I absolutely believe in possession.She was possessed in my opinion.
Her grave is actually a shrine to Catholics,because she fought the devil on her own terms,and in a way,died for god.

http://www.findagrav...r&GRid=11381816

If you don't,or have never seen it with your own eyes,no way to actually comment about it.

1. How great your medical knowledge must be that you can deduce after the fact and with no chance of examination that she didn't have seizures even though doctors who did examine her came to that conclusion.

2. Most of this done during the 67 exorcisms.  When she could no longer rise to her feet, her parents so kindly pulled her up off the floor so she could drop to her knees again and again and again.

3. I have found nothing to indicate that tests showed she had no seizures.  Early on she attributed holy symbols as being one of the causes of her possession and developed an aversion to them.  On a pilgrimage in 1975 she refused to pass one of those symbols and the woman with her decided she was possessed.  A local exorcist came to the same conclusion based on the same information and this is what prompted her parents to stop her medication not any clinical diagnoses.

4. No she had help, lots of help from the church and her parents.

5. They never had her hospitalized for this which would have kept her from dehydration, starvation and would have allowed treatment for her pneumonia.

6. Can't find the definition of cachetia

7. So because she wouldn't respond well it was OK to withhold meds and an I.V.?  It's a good thing you're not a doctor.

No she wasn't possessed as we can see from the fact she had 67 exorcisms that did absolutely nothing.  In the end, religious belief got in the way of her being taken to a hospital for treatment of her physical problems (malnutrition, dehydration and pneumonia.)  When religion outweighs medical treatment it becomes dangerous belief.

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