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[Capt Amerika]

MysticStrummer, on 08 November 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

Sure Romney had a message. It just changed according to who he was speaking with at the time. You can find a clip of him having every viewpoint about every issue. Classic politician. The Republican party needs to take a long look in the mirror, after selecting him as their candidate. I saw his speech at the RNC as he stood up there and said absolutely nothing substantial... to thunderous applause. It was downright surreal. I felt like I was watching a parody on Saturday Night Live or Onion TV. I felt the same after that first debate when he was declared the winner. His winning strategy? Simply denying or changing his mind about many of the things he had said before. I'm amazed the election was so close, but that's what happens when people don't pay attention. By the way, "paying attention" doesn't mean getting all your news from one clearly biased source, whatever that source may be. Do your own research and look at multiple sources. It takes some time but it's time well spent if you want to be informed.

Kind of like watching Obama turn all gangsta when adressing a group of blacks as opposed to addressing whites.
Talk about a phony.

[Capt Amerika]

ninjadude, on 09 November 2012 - 03:40 AM, said:

I can give you a longer list of promise kept.
FF was investigated and proved to be nothing so much as faux claimed.

Yeah i suppose you are correct.
A dead Border Patrol agent isnt worth raising a stink about.
Even if he WAS shot with weapons illegally sent to Mexico by our own Justice dept.
Nothing to see here folks just move along......

[Capt Amerika]

ninjadude, on 09 November 2012 - 03:44 AM, said:

ummm nuclear weapons....

We have Nuclear weapons, who gives us money?

[Capt Amerika]

-M7, on 09 November 2012 - 05:36 AM, said:

The American people should learn by now, that the president is not fully in charge of the nation.
I'm not saying that the president should be, because history has shown what thats like.
The legislative branch of the US government has too much partisanship that it divides power so that important thing never get done, it will eventually divide the nation.

You are correct,
This one has George Soros pulling his strings and has 30+ unelected / unvetted Czars to do his bidding withour any checks and balances.
What a wonderful nation we live in.

[Capt Amerika]

ninjadude, on 09 November 2012 - 03:47 AM, said:

all very excellent things that should happen. The Bush tax cuts are a huge part of the problem, the rich will pay more for healthcare, and carbon taxes are apparently working in Europe.

The Bush tax cuts helped the middle class, now the middle class will be taxed back down to the lower class.
EVERYONE who pays taxes will pay more for healthcare
And this isnt Europe.  Keep your green agenda to yourself, it isnt working.

Think however you want but simple fact is that by the end of Obamas 4 years we will be Greece.

[shaddow134]

Capt Amerika, on 09 November 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

Keep your green agenda to yourself, it isnt working.

Neither is Congress...You'll be in the Do Do come January..

[questionmark]

Capt Amerika, on 09 November 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

Think however you want but simple fact is that by the end of Obamas 4 years we will be Greece.

You are not in Greece and never will be, Greece gets bailed out.

[Hasina]

Vhat did ve learn? I have to reassess my answer. Nothing. We learned nothing. No one learned a thing. Bad? Good? I don't know, but it's just seems to be 'back to business as usual' for the majority of people.

[shaddow134]

Well ,the Republicans learned that Obama was a two term president.

[MiskatonicGrad]

I've learned the majority of americans don't have a clue or care what the intent of the founding fathers was when they wrote the constitution.

[questionmark]

We learned many things:

1. Money does not so much matter, as seen by the Super-Pacs waste of cash, it changed nothing.
2. You cannot win elections being uncommitted on the issues, Obama did not win 'cause he is so popular, he won 'cause the other and his platform was a dud.
3. A party cannot be a one-fits-all affair, 'cause than it fits nobody and nobody is interested. And it cannot be 3 parties in one, just scares off the 18% that decide the election.
4. Angry old white males are a minority, so a party cannot expect to win basing its platform on their opinion.
5. Nobody really cares whether the good old US of A can  drag the biggest balls over the ground, the issues that matter are domestic.
6. The third parties failed once again to make themselves known to a broader public...but that was kind of expected.

Edited by questionmark, 09 November 2012 - 07:56 PM.

[Hippycrite]

(opening pay envelope) "Hey, I got a raise! Cool deal"!  (reads bottom line) "What the hell-I'm making less than before"!  (reads further) "Go figure-my health insurance went up, too"!  That's what I learned.

[shaddow134]

questionmark, on 09 November 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

We learned many things:

1. Money does not so much matter, as seen by the Super-Pacs waste of cash, it changed nothing.
2. You cannot win elections being uncommitted on the issues, Obama did not win 'cause he is so popular, he won 'cause the other and his platform was a dud.
3. A party cannot be a one-fits-all affair, 'cause than it fits nobody and nobody is interested. And it cannot be 3 parties in one, just scares off the 18% that decide the election.
4. Angry old white males are a minority, so a party cannot expect to win basing its platform on their opinion.
5. Nobody really cares whether the good old US of A can  drag the biggest balls over the ground, the issues that matter are domestic.
6. The third parties failed once again to make themselves known to a broader public...but that was kind of expected.

Obama won with no second term plan whatsoever,simply because he knew the Republicans along with the Tea Party were singing the same old song to an ever decreasing circle of supporters.

[Order66]

I've learned that Romney's a maker, the voters are takers, and Obama's a faker.

[Jeremiah65]

Vein...nice play...not true....

Romney was a faker...and evryone else is a taker....that includes you too.  Did you use exemptions on your last tax returns?  You ****g cheater....you suck...you need to be taken out and shot.

The truth is...this whole sham really needs to do what I have suggested for years.  slimline baby.

Here is a wordey post I made from another site:  Bare in mind that someone swore China was a Big threat....


"Erm...China is NOT improving their economy. it's a false image for the world. I did some contract work for a Chinese firm back in March and April and had to spend a lot of time up at 2:00 am talking to people in Wu Han and I can tell you...they aren't doing as well as they want the west to think they are.

This whole thing with the GOP IS about money. Our world has changed and I have said it in other threads and got accused of hating my country (which is absolutely ridiculous).

This system is broken...time to toss it out and start over. I am not saying we throw out the founding documents, I am saying we clean house, drop all the BS that IS NOT in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and reform the governing bodies.

This is going to inflame the hell out of some people, but before you rant and go off on a tirade, think outside the box.

I say we legalize everything. Drop the ridiculous regulations, certifications, licensing, etc. There are some professional fields that do need to be regulated...i.e. Physicians, lawyers, pharmacists...people's who work can ruin (or end) the life of another. But many-many of the regulations we look at now when trying to start a career or a business is flat out cronyism. Rules made (read as lobbied for) by those already doing something to thin out and prevent competition.

The religious thing...I am a spiritual person, but I am not devout to any particular religion. I personally believe wisdom is held within all of them. The point of our founding documents is I can be free to believe what I want to believe but it should have absolutely no bearing on how (if I were in Government) I would legislate or lead. Believe it or not, there is nothing wrong with a touch of secularism in governance. People should be free ot worship and pray to whoever or whatever the wish, but their beliefs should not be in a position to reign over another.

The rights are what they are. Our civil-legal code has become such an abomination...based purely on propping up a false security. People are willing to give up freedom to prevent certain things from happening. I am not. If something bad were to happen...so be it, I am not afraid of the great unknown...we are all going to take a dirt nap one day...when it's your time...go with some damn grace. Don't desperately cling to a life that has reached it's end...let go and embrace whatever comes next...which may well be nothingness, but to fear it is to live a terrible existence. I don't personally think "Nothingness" is the next stage, but that is me. Perhaps it is the fear of the next stage that is causing all the problems in this one.

You can't take it with you and as much as we try to say it is about "legacy" to our progeny...that's usually only part of it...it's a twisted sense of "immortality" most people struggle with...they want to leave a mark....they want to be remembered. Arrogance. You are an ugly bag of mostly water...move along and be done with it. Your progeny will make it with or without your help.

Oops...strayed a little off topic there.

The GOP is the epitome of hypocrisy. they proclaim to be "Christian" or "moral majority" and yet the ignore everything their religious documents say. They say they are pro-life but they will let a child starve or a returning veteran to live on the streets...as I said before "acceptable collateral damage of capitalism". Here is a clue...that is not what Jesus would do. They bark that they are for small government and freedom but they want to tell you what you can put in or take out of your body (drugs and abortions)...they are prepared to jail people that break these rules....how is that freedom and how is that small Gov?...it requires more bureaucracy to enforce such mad-hatter rules.

Just my freedom loving philosophy speaking here folks. I am a Libertarian with a touch of anarchism...I am quite prepared to live in the wild west...I am quite capable of knowing what is right and wrong...I do not need a bunch of pompous a-holes telling me how to conduct my day to day life.edit on 11/9/2012 by Jeremiah65 because: (no reason given)