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#31    Merc14

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 01:08 AM

View Postdanielost, on 21 June 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

For most of nasa's life, it has returned three dollars for ever one given.  Not sure if that holds true right now with usd payig russia to take us to the station.

What does Russia taking astronauts to the ISS have to do with what I said?  NASA is developing a new capsule (you can see the escape tower test vehicle at the Virginia Air and Space Center) and it would carry us to the asteroid to collect samples.  Harvesting asteroids could prove to be very profitable if you could fine one  loaded with exotic metals.

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 07:34 AM

A mission like this could get canceled, and we have a probe circling the moon that's about to celebrate its 4th anniversary in orbit.

NASA should be the poster child for the term, "Misappropriation of Funds".

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 05:15 AM

It should be cancelled and looked at further down in the future, but not at this time.

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 10:09 AM

Surely all this planning and cancelling is just setting them back from any kind of mission for many more years.

I think it has finally sunk in that NASA is falling behind the Russians and Chinese in manned space missions at an alarming rate.

I cannot believe a manned space station on the moon is economically feasible at the moment.  I have no doubt they can build one and get it there, then man it.  But maintaining it after would be a huge commitment for many years to come. Nasa, ESA and Russians are struggling with the international space station financially, imagine how much more it would cost to resupply a moon base.  How many launches from Earth did it take to build it?

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 11:12 AM

Nasa is struggleing because their budget keeps getting cut, do to the people thinking the money should be spent sending tanks and fighters and cash to an enemy.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:21 AM

View Postdanielost, on 23 June 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

Nasa is struggleing because their budget keeps getting cut, do to the people thinking the money should be spent sending tanks and fighters and cash to an enemy.

Agreed, but they have also run up a national debt that is almost impossible to service.  Until this is tackled I can't see NASA ever getting a budget like it did with the first moon landings,

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 03:10 AM

Personally I can't see why we want to explore a floating rock. We should have a moon base and should have started building one on the 70s. Asteroid mission is completely pointless.


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 03:18 AM

View Postdanielost, on 23 June 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

Nasa is struggleing because their budget keeps getting cut, do to the people thinking the money should be spent sending tanks and fighters and cash to an enemy.
I wonder if you know what proportion of the US's spending is on the military and what is on entitlements.


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 03:19 AM

View PostChooky88, on 24 June 2013 - 03:10 AM, said:

Personally I can't see why we want to explore a floating rock. We should have a moon base and should have started building one on the 70s. Asteroid mission is completely pointless.
A bit of a "know-nothing" attitude (glib and ignorant).


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 06:33 PM

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What does Russia taking astronauts to the ISS have to do with what I said?  NASA is developing a new capsule (you can see the escape tower test vehicle at the Virginia Air and Space Center) and it would carry us to the asteroid to collect samples.  Harvesting asteroids could prove to be very profitable if you could fine one  loaded with exotic metals.

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What does Russia taking astronauts to the ISS have to do with what I said?  NASA is developing a new capsule (you can see the escape tower test vehicle at the Virginia Air and Space Center) and it would carry us to the asteroid to collect samples.  Harvesting asteroids could prove to be very profitable if you could fine one  loaded with exotic metals.




Do you want to spend six months inside a capsule with up to six others with you.  I know I wouldn't.  I might have a problem for three days.  Six months to mars, one year on the ground and six months home.  Three days to the moon and three days back.

No, to do any mission beyond the moon.  We will need a true space ship, something built in space.  We could use the capsule as the command capsule.  This ship will need radiation shielding.


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 07:04 PM

View Postdanielost, on 24 June 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

Do you want to spend six months inside a capsule with up to six others with you.  I know I wouldn't.  I might have a problem for three days.  Six months to mars, one year on the ground and six months home.  Three days to the moon and three days back.

No, to do any mission beyond the moon.  We will need a true space ship, something built in space.  We could use the capsule as the command capsule.  This ship will need radiation shielding.

I agree that a capsule makes any Mars trip a one way deal but if getting to Mars via a ship built on the moon is the ultimate goal then they had better learn how to mine asteroids because the materials to build this ship aren't all available on the moon.  Anyways, you are missing my point which is that industry is perfectly capable of and is now willing to explore and exploit the moon's resources.  Why, then, should NASA spend its resources on doing the same thing?

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:42 AM

The moon has the same stuff earth has including water.  The gold on earth was brought by meteors, since the moon has taken more hits than us it should have gold too.  But, using our current tech it isn't worth the trouble to mine it.  If you take as loaf of bread into orbit, then turned itti gold it wouldn't pay for the trip.  This is from nasa.  We need reusable landers and launchers with engines that don't need to be refilled after every trip.  That might be a nuclear engine.  But, too many would worry it might blow up.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:59 PM

I can understand wanting to go to a near asteroid, especially for mining purposes. Acquiring precious or even unknown metals! I also think it very awesome to have a moon base of some sort. In hopes that everyone could get a chance to visit, not just privileged individuals. I do believe money plays such a big role in all this that we do not need to do either of the two as of this point in time. Let's take care of some more things down here on Earth first.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:07 PM

When we start putting families on board a satilite.  We will need dirt more than anything lse except water.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:17 PM

It occurs to me that more research on the problems of living in isolated environments may be needed.  The one experiment I'm aware of failed, but it struck me as mainly hype anyway.





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