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[zoser]

Somethings Not Right, on 07 December 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

I will be posting a picture soon that will have everyone talking..... lots of 'for' & no doubt lots of 'against's' too..
Hi zozer

Hello young man.  Look forward to seeing your pic.  Please IM me when you have it since my time slot here is a bit limited and I do miss the occasional post.

[zoser]

DingoLingo, on 07 December 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

Lol avoid the question yet again zoser.. Try readying what I asked.. Why no pictographs etc showing them helping/making the buildings?

The evidence suggests that the early (unknown) civilisation was not given to artistic recording.  Look at the Great Pyramid for example.  It's bereft of art.  I believe that this early civilisation was more pre-occupied with functionality not art.  Another good example being PP.

Quaentum, on 07 December 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

Oh look another demon

Look another dismissive assumption.

Edited by zoser, 07 December 2012 - 08:58 PM.

[DingoLingo]

zoser, on 07 December 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

The evidence suggests that the early (unknown) civilisation was not given to artistic recording.  Look at the Great Pyramid for example.  It's bereft of art.  I believe that this early civilisation was more pre-occupied with functionality not art.  Another good example being PP.



Look another dismissive assumption.

The evidence suggests.. Ok so by that statement your saying the pictographs.. Statues and objected dated to those times and sites were not created by the people of that time but by some later civilastion?

[DingoLingo]

Oh btw the australian aboriginal art you post up is not aliens.. It's their spirit guides.. Generally around those art you would find drawings of the rainbow serpent ... A old noonga elder I know would his ass off each time he heard they were supposed to be drawings of aliens

[zoser]

DingoLingo, on 07 December 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

The evidence suggests.. Ok so by that statement your saying the pictographs.. Statues and objected dated to those times and sites were not created by the people of that time but by some later civilastion?

The indiginous people not the visitors.

DingoLingo, on 07 December 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Oh btw the australian aboriginal art you post up is not aliens.. It's their spirit guides.. Generally around those art you would find drawings of the rainbow serpent ... A old noonga elder I know would his ass off each time he heard they were supposed to be drawings of aliens

Their spirit guides were ET?  Interesting theory.

[zoser]

DingoLingo, on 07 December 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Oh btw the australian aboriginal art you post up is not aliens.. It's their spirit guides.. Generally around those art you would find drawings of the rainbow serpent ... A old noonga elder I know would his ass off each time he heard they were supposed to be drawings of aliens

And the dozens and dozens and dozens of other suspicious non-human looking statues and pictures?????

The best of luck my friend.

[Quaentum]

zoser, on 07 December 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

The Inca did not build the original temples at Machu Picchu or Cusco.

Our story gets so much larger when we listen to the wisdom keepers of the ancient traditions. The histories known to the old cultures around the world tell of highly advanced ancient civilizations; and of the coming and going of ages punctuated by world cataclysms. Where ‘modern science’ has dismissed the histories as given by indigenous cultures as mere myth; there are now a few brave researchers, who are willing to face the rejection of the mainstream academics and are publishing the suppressed evidence supporting the knowledge of our ancient ancestors.

In the Americas during the European invasion, after the church sanctioned destruction of so much of the arts and records, a few of the Spanish got around to asking the native history keepers their stories. What was then told and chronicled is quite different than what is generally accepted today. During the 1600’s, in Peru, the Spanish chronicler Fernando Montesinos recorded the histories of the Quechua speaking peoples of Cusco, Peru, those now called Inca.*

http://sacredheritag...ilizations.html

Interesting site.  They have based their conclusions on the writings of Zecharia Sitchin, Graham Hancock, Colin Wilson, Michael Cremo, Charles Hapgood, James Churchward, and Immanuel Velikovsky.  Somehow they missed Von Daniken or else it would be a complete set.

Maybe you can ignore the fringe authors and post some scientific articles that show the Inca didn't build them.

[DingoLingo]

I am talking about the Australian ones lol

Nice try zoser but unfortunately your wrong about that one.. Forget what Von d and the rest have said.. And read up on it.. I would say come to Australia and speak to the arhnam land elders since that is where a lot of those drawings come from...

They will happily tell you the old tails about the spirits.. How the rainbow serpent created the rivers.. How the first kangaroo was originally a man

[Quaentum]

DingoLingo, on 07 December 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

I am talking about the Australian ones lol

Nice try zoser but unfortunately your wrong about that one.. Forget what Von d and the rest have said.. And read up on it.. I would say come to Australia and speak to the arhnam land elders since that is where a lot of those drawings come from...

They will happily tell you the old tails about the spirits.. How the rainbow serpent created the rivers.. How the first kangaroo was originally a man

Looks like I got it right (post 955)

[Oniomancer]

Sweetpumper, on 07 December 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

Not if he doesn't have the proper permits.

Building permits? Ah, we don' got no building permits. We don' need no steenking building permits!

You'd be surprised what you can get away with as long as it's up to code. I've seen some truly atrocious additions. Old Home Journal has a feature on "remuddling" showing off some of these architectural nightmares.

Edited by Oniomancer, 07 December 2012 - 09:34 PM.

[Oniomancer]

Aliens. Right...

http://www.google.co...c.1.qwQN9tDI9sU

[Quaentum]

Oniomancer, on 07 December 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

Aliens. Right...

http://www.google.co...c.1.qwQN9tDI9sU

Better aliens

[Imaginarynumber1]

zoser, on 07 December 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

It's well known that the Inca took no credit for the megalithic structures when questioned by the Spaniards.  A cursory look at the two types of architecture on the video clip will tell you that they were not built by the same people.

In the year 1523, local American Indians told the Spaniards that those gigantic buildings where build in one night, long before the Incas. Another legend tels that these cities where lifted through the air by the sounding of trumpets.

Part of the site of Tiwanaku is known as Puma Punku, in the Bolivian Andes. The word "Puma Punku" is Aymaran and translates to “Door of the Cougar”. Here there are huge stone blocks (the heaviest block is weighing 440 tons) which where supposedly part of a huge ancient but architectural advanced construction.   

http://talc.site88.net/mega.htm

We were talking about Sacsayhuamán which you claimed that the Inca said they never built. This is not true. I already showed you this and now you are trying to talk about different sites.
No matter. Those have an explanation too, and it isn't aliens. You see, the Incas were not the only peoples in South America. There were, and are, other cultural groups in Peru. Many of theses groups built towns and monuments as well. The Inca conquered these people and they became, over time, Inca. So they are correct when they say that they did not build some of these sites. The people that were already there did.
Again, no need for aliens and NOTHING mysterious about the megalithic sites, no matter how much you prattle on about it. Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean that others don't.

Edited by Imaginarynumber1, 07 December 2012 - 10:06 PM.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

zoser, on 07 December 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

Just catching up with the thread; every day there are another 10 or so pages on this thread.
Pictographs of ET like beings?
It really doesn't take long to find:
Any of these look human to you?  I'll let you decide.  The ancient world is brimming with this kind of thing.  Extremely easy to find.

Well my first question is "what do "known humans" (ie tribal chieftains, famous warriors etc) from those cultures at the same period the statues where made look like when represented in stone? It's possible what we're calling "possible ET" is actually the peak of their artistic skill in representing people at the time.

zoser, on 07 December 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

Your argument doesn't prove that the statues were not ET.  I am in no way convinced that the ancients had the same habits as our modern culture when it came to art.

I accept the definition given by the descendants of the peoples who made those artworks of them being "spirits". Of course that doesn't refute at all the possibility of "spirits" being a misremembering/best explanation for aliens.

zoser, on 07 December 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

I can find more references to it if you wish.  

Just another nail in the coffin for orthodox archaelogy.  

Here's yet another:

that's a spirit. See above.
In fact, in this case the locals get a little atagonistic when their beliefs are conscripted by others - so it's REALLY a sky spirit.

zoser, on 07 December 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

Taken out of context "spirit", taken in context (especially with the "these beings say they come from the stars" history they have) I've no qualms saying "possibly ET" on this one.
Mind you, could still be a spirit.

zoser, on 07 December 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

The Inca did not build the original temples at Machu Picchu or Cusco.

Our story gets so much larger when we listen to the wisdom keepers of the ancient traditions. The histories known to the old cultures around the world tell of highly advanced ancient civilizations; and of the coming and going of ages punctuated by world cataclysms. Where ‘modern science’ has dismissed the histories as given by indigenous cultures as mere myth; there are now a few brave researchers, who are willing to face the rejection of the mainstream academics and are publishing the suppressed evidence supporting the knowledge of our ancient ancestors.

In the Americas during the European invasion, after the church sanctioned destruction of so much of the arts and records, a few of the Spanish got around to asking the native history keepers their stories. What was then told and chronicled is quite different than what is generally accepted today. During the 1600’s, in Peru, the Spanish chronicler Fernando Montesinos recorded the histories of the Quechua speaking peoples of Cusco, Peru, those now called Inca.*

http://sacredheritag...ilizations.html

Philip Coppens (in a book the name of which escapes me, but I think is something like "Lost Civilisations") actually agrees with you, but doesn't posit aliens as the answer, rather an as yet unidentified other culture was responsible.
There's some evidence he suggests that it might have been European or "Old European".

[synchronomy]

Somethings Not Right, on 07 December 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

Whats ETH?

Extraterrestrial Hypothesis