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#8041    Admiral Rhubarb

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 09:56 AM

View Postzoser, on 03 March 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

Agreed.

It's not about getting excited.  It's about how the cut was not made.

Saws do not produce variable thickness like this.



Completely rules out any sawing technique.  Not that they were able to do it by sawing anyway,

They had no material that could do this to granite, nor has any been found.


Surely the aim of any precision sawing would be to not get variable thickness; surely the aim of sawing something is consistency. This looks rather more like further evidence of a bodge, I'm afraid.
Perhaps that doesn't rule out Aliens, but if it was, maybe it's why they didn't hang around, or maybe they were defeated by someone else, who did things rather better.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:01 AM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 03 March 2013 - 09:56 AM, said:

Surely the aim of any precision sawing would be to not get variable thickness; surely the aim of sawing something is consistency. This looks rather more like further evidence of a bodge, I'm afraid.
Perhaps that doesn't rule out Aliens, but if it was, maybe it's why they didn't hang around, or maybe they were defeated by someone else, who did things rather better.

The cutting tool whatever it was obviously did what the image portrays.

The evidence is there in stone.

Fact.

The cutting power of the tool obviously diminished with distance.  For some reason they never completed the cut.

A saw would maintain even cutting width like this:

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I believe that the above work was done with a copper saw around 10mm thick and it was done in the middle to late kingdom (Egypt).

Nothing like that can be said of the Peruvian artefact,

Here is what looks like another shot of the same artefact.

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It may be even thicker than 10mm.  Difficult to say but certainly much thicker than the Peruvian stone.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:33 AM

View Postzoser, on 03 March 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

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Completely rules out any sawing technique.  Not that they were able to do it by sawing anyway,

They had no material that could do this to granite, nor has any been found.

~snip


what makes this piece of granite so special ? There are more than ample evidence of working with granite available throughout the region.
You're looking down a blind alley thinking this cut is done in one clean slice when you yourself noted the variation in thickness, that only means it took much longer to get the cut, that's all, but it is a very impressive cut, obviously they took much care in attempting to get the piece to the dimensions they wanted, or maybe it was an apprentice that couldn't cut this stone in time as well.

Ever considered that ?


~edit : Lord Vetinari beat me to it

Edited by third_eye, 03 March 2013 - 10:35 AM.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:35 AM

One could just as easily replace "aliens from another planet" with "a technologically advanced species of subterranean mole men" and it would make very little difference to the narrative. We dont have any evidence for either scenario, or any knowledge of either alleged interlopers. All we have got is wild speculation, and nothing else.

If the evidence fits the subterranean mole men hypothesis equally as well as the ancient aliens hypothesis, then what reason is there to believe that either of them represent what actually happened? It could just as easily be a third scenario, such as beings from another dimension, or a fourth, that they did it through powerful psychokinesis.

The Evidence For Ancient Stone Cutting - http://www.dumbassgu...blog.php?bid=87

Video. http://science.disco...tting-tools.htm

Also,I find this pretty interesting at first glance, but havent had time to triple check it. http://www.cheops-py...ne-cutting.html

Edited by Hazzard, 03 March 2013 - 10:36 AM.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:40 AM

View Postthird_eye, on 03 March 2013 - 10:33 AM, said:

what makes this piece of granite so special ? There are more than ample evidence of working with granite available throughout the region.
You're looking down a blind alley thinking this cut is done in one clean slice when you yourself noted the variation in thickness, that only means it took much longer to get the cut, that's all, but it is a very impressive cut, obviously they took much care in attempting to get the piece to the dimensions they wanted, or maybe it was an apprentice that couldn't cut this stone in time as well.

Ever considered that ?


~edit : Lord Vetinari beat me to it

Doesn't explain how it was done TE.

The piece could well be unique in that it is unfinished.  That gives vital clues as to how it was done and more importantly how it was not done.

My point is that they had no saw that was capable of cutting to this tiny thickness.  That cut is wafer thin at the bottom probably less than 1mm.

Sawing is a non starter.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:42 AM

View PostHazzard, on 03 March 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

One could just as easily replace "aliens from another planet" with "a technologically advanced species of subterranean mole men" and it would make very little difference to the narrative. We dont have any evidence for either scenario, or any knowledge of either alleged interlopers. All we have got is wild speculation, and nothing else.

If the evidence fits the subterranean mole men hypothesis equally as well as the ancient aliens hypothesis, then what reason is there to believe that either of them represent what actually happened? It could just as easily be a third scenario, such as beings from another dimension, or a fourth, that they did it through powerful psychokinesis.

The Evidence For Ancient Stone Cutting - http://www.dumbassgu...blog.php?bid=87

Video. http://science.disco...tting-tools.htm

Also,I find this pretty interesting at first glance, but havent had time to triple check it. http://www.cheops-py...ne-cutting.html

All these links are irrelevant to the piece under consideration.

Northing remotely related.

Sorry Haz.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:47 AM

View Postzoser, on 03 March 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:

Doesn't explain how it was done TE.

The piece could well be unique in that it is unfinished.  That gives vital clues as to how it was done and more importantly how it was not done.

My point is that they had no saw that was capable of cutting to this tiny thickness.  That cut is wafer thin at the bottom probably less than 1mm.

Sawing is a non starter.

stones bloat, expand and bulge or sag over time, takes a long time, but noticeable, more so in stones that is left out in the elements,
I see a very good saw cut, nothing more.

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' ... life and death carry on as they always have ~ and always will, only the dreamer is gone ~ behind the flow of imagination, beyond any effort to be still
dancing in the ebb and flow of attention, more present than the breath, I find the origins of my illusions, only the dreamer is gone ~ the dream never ends
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:51 AM

Yet again we have another artefact that is inexplicable in modern terms.

The only thing mainstream history has that can relate to in regard to this piece is abrasive sawing.  The cut is so thin at the bottom to make that utterly impossible.  Only the hardest of steels impregnated with industrial diamond would make an impact on that granite at wafer thin widths.

Just like the moulding marks, the vitrification, the hole cutting, the precision fitting, not of it matches conventional explanations.

Non of the above phenomena has been successfully refuted, and it all remains evidence of advanced unknown technology that had to come from a superior culture.

Those techniques were lost, through epoch change or natural catastrophe, however fortunately the stone artefacts survive.

It's very clear why the AA theory exists and it's support growing.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:52 AM

View Postthird_eye, on 03 March 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

stones bloat, expand and bulge or sag over time, takes a long time, but noticeable, more so in stones that is left out in the elements,
I see a very good saw cut, nothing more.

Can you prove that that happens to granite?  The evidence on the stone looks extremely clear.  Wishful thinking imho.

A good saw cut yes I agree.  The question is how?

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:07 AM

View Postzoser, on 03 March 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

Can you prove that that happens to granite?  The evidence on the stone looks extremely clear.  Wishful thinking imho.

A good saw cut yes I agree.  The question is how?

Happens to all natural rock stone formations, stones are regarded as a 'living' element (literal) as in 'organic'
You'll have to find the 'proof' to satisfy your requirements as 'proof' I'm not a specialist in that field.

As to how, well ... you're right that we'll never know, unless you found someone who there at the time, otherwise it's all speculative on our part, hardly evidence or even proof.

We can attempt to recreate the methods but that still won't be proof to you can it? Just another viable proposition.
Nobody knows anything exact by pursuing inexact clues.

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' ... life and death carry on as they always have ~ and always will, only the dreamer is gone ~ behind the flow of imagination, beyond any effort to be still
dancing in the ebb and flow of attention, more present than the breath, I find the origins of my illusions, only the dreamer is gone ~ the dream never ends
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:24 AM

View Postzoser, on 03 March 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

A good saw cut yes I agree.  The question is how?

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:33 AM

View Postthird_eye, on 03 March 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

Happens to all natural rock stone formations, stones are regarded as a 'living' element (literal) as in 'organic'
You'll have to find the 'proof' to satisfy your requirements as 'proof' I'm not a specialist in that field.

As to how, well ... you're right that we'll never know, unless you found someone who there at the time, otherwise it's all speculative on our part, hardly evidence or even proof.

We can attempt to recreate the methods but that still won't be proof to you can it? Just another viable proposition.
Nobody knows anything exact by pursuing inexact clues.

The point is that the evidence is there.

If the ancients adhered to known easily explainable methods there would be absolutely no debate.

The moulding, vitrification, precision fitting, precision hole cutting (with vitrification internally!), and now wafer thin saw cuts all adds up to the same thing.

Corresponding logistics.

The Great Pyramid is another.

No more debate necessary.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:53 AM

View Postzoser, on 03 March 2013 - 10:42 AM, said:

All these links are irrelevant to the piece under consideration.

Northing remotely related.

Sorry Haz.

As Im not posting for your benefit you there is no need to apologize. We all know that your mind is closed in this matter.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:21 PM

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Alien saw marks?

No a natural fissure in rock

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:03 PM

View Postseeder, on 03 March 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

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Alien saw marks?

No a natural fissure in rock

Neither does it look like the Peruvian granite artefact.

Alien saw marks?

No it's an F-35

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