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#61    Ken1Burton

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:06 PM

Raven.

The Devil does exist, and has fooled mankind quite well.

Hell ceased to exist, it was a place of sleep till Jesus died for sin, and there is NO WAY you or anyone else is ever going there.

Jesus told them, “Where I go, You can not come.” He was going into hell and it would cease to exist when He left.

Hell is seen in the 14th Chapter of Isaiah. Looking at Lucifer’s arrival. In the 31st verse is the Similitude for hell ceasing to exist. Which happened when Jesus took them all out with Him.

(ZECHARIAH 9:11) As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I
have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water. (KJV)

(ISAIAH 14:31) Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina,
art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and
none shall be alone in his appointed times. (KJV)

This thread is “If you were the Devil, What would you do to fool mankind.” And this is connected. The Devil is God’s Holy name, He has fooled you quite well. He also saved you and all others quite well. If you love your enemy, Sooner or later you end up face to face with the Devil, and that is not really a problem. Just love Him.

Ever read of a man possessed with a Devil? Guess who?

(MATTHEW 12:22) Then was brought unto him one possessed with a
devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind
and dumb both spake and saw. (KJV)

(EXODUS 4:11) And the Lord said unto him, Who hath made man's
mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the
blind? have not I the Lord? (KJV)

Now if that Warrior was a real person on earth, they are now with God in Heaven. They have the righteousness of Christ upon them. No doubt they were fooled by the Devil also. We are saved by grace, so be as righteous as you want, Does not get you into Heaven, Your ticket was bought at Calvary.

The Devil wants you. The Devil has you. But He has had you since the moment you were conceived. At that moment, Your name was written in the Lamb’s book of life, Never to be erased.

This thread about the Devil has an identity problem. How can you really discuss the Devil fooling you, Unless you realize He has already fooled you.

(PSALMS 99:3) Let them praise thy great and terrible name; for it
is holy. (KJV)

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:23 PM

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Jesus told them, “Where I go, You can not come.” He was going into hell and it would cease to exist when He left.

Where is your proof of that?  No where in the NT that I can find!
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Hell ceased to exist, it was a place of sleep till Jesus died for sin

Need proof of this too!
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The Devil does exist

And your proof for this is?????



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Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:41 PM

Lamont Cranston? Sounds like someone on the honeymooners?

The Bible has to be put together to see truth. Old Testament prophecies had to be fulfilled to the jot and tittle. Isaiah 14:31 had to be fulfilled where Hell ceases to exist. Zechariah 9:11 where Jesus and the ones out of hell leave had to be fulfilled.

What Peter or Paul thought, or preached did not have to be fulfilled by Jesus. The Jots and Tittles of Daniel did. Making an end of sin, and bringing in everlasting righteousness from Daniel 9:24 was fulfilled, the SEAL in 9:24 kept the Disciples and Paul from seeing sin ended as Accountable unto men.

(LUKE 18:31) Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them,
Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by
the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. (KJV)

The Old Testament is the Text, The New Testament is a work book where we are tested to see if we can tell truth from error.

The Entire Bible has to be applied to each concept to see if it is truth or not. You can not make the Bible say what you want. As it all has to be looked at. And the Jots and Tittles all had to be fulfilled to the finest point.

My proof the Devil does exist, and the Devil is God’s Holy name is that the Old Testament was intact 400 years before a child was laid in a manger in Bethlehem. Thousands of prophecies concerning Jesus were already written down, and many copies existed before He began His earthly ministry.

Only God could have put such a thing together, having over 40 people inspired to write, writing which cover over 1500 years. what would be fulfilled in one day (this gets a bit deep, but it was all fulfilled in one day) with Jesus, Showing there is a God by His ability to do this, and that Jesus is the One He sent to do it.

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Posted 13 July 2005 - 09:19 PM

If I were the devil and wanted to fool mankind I would use the Internet and fill people with all sort of misgivings and lies on a forum such as this. I would try my best to convince people that there is no devil.


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Posted 19 July 2005 - 09:26 PM

If I were (d)evil, I would have my daddy help me get elected president of one of the biggest countries in the world, twice. I would take over other countries in order to control them and their natural resources. I would make everyone think I am the greatest guy.. (er I mean girl) in the world and then when they all loved me and trusted me I would take away their human rights and their security. Oops thats already being done. I guess I can't do any better than that.

WHO'S THE KNUCKLEHEAD THAT GOT ME SIDETRACKED?


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Posted 19 July 2005 - 10:31 PM

The Devil doesn't exist, or that one dude. And Jesus never actually existed either. What proof do I have? My proof is the absence of your proof. As for Devils, as a Satanist, I am my own Devil.

"Roses are reddish, violets are blueish, if it weren't for Jesus, we'd all be Jewish."


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Posted 19 July 2005 - 10:42 PM

So i dont exist now huh...


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Posted 20 July 2005 - 04:14 PM

Nlt_Overman

Red roses are red, Yellow roses  have a different color,
You can hid behind Satan, But will you discover?
God uses word games, and that which is not.
He didn’t fool you a little, He fooled you a lot.
For His love is far greater, then your hate can be.
We will both be in Heaven, then you can see.
Hell ended the third day, Just look at Zechariah 9:11
Then at death you and Jesus will stand there in Heaven.
Those out of hell, will be by the gate.
Telling of love and Mercy, to all who still hate.
So play all you want, Think you have a friend.
Satan means God’s Word. or what God wrote with a pen.

Satan desired to Sift Peter? How about that.

(AMOS 9:9) For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of
Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet
shall not the least grain fall upon the earth. (KJV)

Satan moved God against Job without a cause? Did not God say He tries the hearts and reigns of men? and He did not say He would wait for a cause.

You have heard of the man possessed with a Devil? He was blind and dumb.

(MATTHEW 12:22) Then was brought unto him one possessed with a
devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind
and dumb both spake and saw. (KJV)

(EXODUS 4:11) And the Lord said unto him, Who hath made man's
mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the
blind? have not I the Lord? (KJV)

Who but God can have you chasing your tail, when you do not even have one?

We are part of the Body of Christ, born the day of the cross, and that is a Jewish Body. Jesus is Jewish, and the Heathen are also within that Body. One Body, all mankind, all saved by grace.

(PSALMS 2:6) Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. (KJV)
(PSALMS 2:7) I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me,
Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee. (KJV)
(PSALMS 2:8) Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine
inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. (KJV)

Jesus said all the Father gives Him will come unto Him, and you are part of that package. See you in Heaven.

Ken

So words may have rhythm, Words may have rhyme,
But God has declared,  every Soul, it is MINE.
The Soul that sinneth, That Soul shall die.
He was at Golgotha, with all sin crucified.


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Posted 21 July 2005 - 08:15 PM

QUOTE(Ken1Burton @ Jul 20 2005, 12:14 PM)
Nlt_Overman

Red roses are red, Yellow roses  have a different color,
You can hid behind Satan, But will you discover?
God uses word games, and that which is not.
He didn’t fool you a little, He fooled you a lot.
For His love is far greater, then your hate can be.
We will both be in Heaven, then you can see.
Hell ended the third day, Just look at Zechariah 9:11
Then at death you and Jesus will stand there in Heaven.
Those out of hell, will be by the gate.
Telling of love and Mercy, to all who still hate.
So play all you want, Think you have a friend.
Satan means God’s Word. or what God wrote with a pen.

Satan desired to Sift Peter? How about that.

(AMOS 9:9) For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of
Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet
shall not the least grain fall upon the earth. (KJV)

Satan moved God against Job without a cause? Did not God say He tries the hearts and reigns of men? and He did not say He would wait for a cause.

You have heard of the man possessed with a Devil? He was blind and dumb.

(MATTHEW 12:22) Then was brought unto him one possessed with a
devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind
and dumb both spake and saw. (KJV)

(EXODUS 4:11) And the Lord said unto him, Who hath made man's
mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the
blind? have not I the Lord? (KJV)

Who but God can have you chasing your tail, when you do not even have one?

We are part of the Body of Christ, born the day of the cross, and that is a Jewish Body. Jesus is Jewish, and the Heathen are also within that Body. One Body, all mankind, all saved by grace.

(PSALMS 2:6) Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. (KJV)
(PSALMS 2:7) I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me,
Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee. (KJV)
(PSALMS 2:8) Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine
inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. (KJV)

Jesus said all the Father gives Him will come unto Him, and you are part of that package. See you in Heaven.

Ken

So words may have rhythm, Words may have rhyme,
But God has declared,  every Soul, it is MINE.
The Soul that sinneth, That Soul shall die.
He was at Golgotha, with all sin crucified.

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oo Now this is scary.  w00t.gif

WHO'S THE KNUCKLEHEAD THAT GOT ME SIDETRACKED?


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Posted 21 July 2005 - 09:33 PM

If the devil wants to cause destruction on earth he would probably become a new Hitler...

It wouldn't be difficult to find any followers with all the neo-nazi's all over the world...

He would build an army the world has never seen or maybe giving his soldiers special powers to create superhumans... (ubermensch)

He could choose the easy way killing a humans with nuclear bombs, but what pleasure would that be...           ....DESTRUCTION!!!...

Invading whole Europe/Asia/Africa he would let all humans suffer, forcing them to serve him...

America & Australia first wait for about 10 years and then ally to come to a rescue...

The war would only take a short 3 months...

The whole world would be in his hands!!!

...for about 50 years...

...till the Almighty comes to rescue...(not Bruce)


D. has a real weird fantasy...




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