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#61    psyche101

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:53 PM

View PostHazzard, on 20 January 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Well, I think we should have a little higher bar than someone just saying something. People can (and do) claim all sorts of wacky stuff.

Extraordinary claims should, and in fact demands, extraordinary evidence.

An old lady saying that she saw the Loch Ness monster slither around on the beach, a fire breathing dragon up in the air, or an alien space ship over her house is interesting and all, but I wouldnt go around claiming there are dragons on Earth because of it.

Would you?


You know, based on past posting, I would say that answer would have to be yes. That is the logic we indeed are seeing.

Unfortunately.

The bar has dropped dramatically. I almost let out a sigh of relief when I see MacG and Quillius drop in. Lets hope we can pick up the 4th edition of the BE thread, and not see it dragged down into the depths of ignorance. I had hoped for a good start, but already we have a claim that people in blue jumpsuits is information that answers that which so many have already exceeded immensely, and yet still failed with. But some have no shame.

Congrats on the 4th edition mate. That has to be a UM record surely.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:13 AM

We need to raise the bar ! I`ll call badeskovs he`s a bit worn out from work and all but Im sure he will come up with a new Drink of the- eday for us ! :tu:

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:32 AM

Perhaps someone would be willing to do a recap of some of the older cases we have gone over? Echo Flight, BoLA, or maybe Portage County, I haven't personally looked much into that one. Anything but Roswell though, I'm happy to leave that horse buried. ^_^


*Not for my benefit by the way, more to spark new debate.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:42 AM

The 1976 Tehran UFO incident has always been one of my favorites.

http://en.wikipedia....an_UFO_incident

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:55 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 21 January 2013 - 01:32 AM, said:

Perhaps someone would be willing to do a recap of some of the older cases we have gone over? Echo Flight, BoLA, or maybe Portage County, I haven't personally looked much into that one. Anything but Roswell though, I'm happy to leave that horse buried. ^_^


*Not for my benefit by the way, more to spark new debate.

Hey S2F, yes that would be good, I think Portage county would be a good place to start, it is quite intruiging. One thing I am struggling with on this case is trying to locate when and where exactly the 'seven steps to hell' logo was first introduced. This was apparently seen on the abandoned car that the officers first stopped to investigate moments before the UFo event unfolds. Some have said one of the officers introduced the 'seven steps' logo comment many years after.....

View PostHazzard, on 21 January 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

The 1976 Tehran UFO incident has always been one of my favorites.

http://en.wikipedia....an_UFO_incident

or we could go here instead...why not...

what is the general opinion from our more skeptical friends on this one?


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

Im glad this thread (series) is kicking up, again..... what is it now 3000 posts all togeather?  :nw:

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 03:49 PM

View PostDBunker, on 21 January 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

Im glad this thread (series) is kicking up, again..... what is it now 3000 posts all togeather?  :nw:

yes lets hope all the big hitters join in...I want to see McG and Skyeagle especially joining in.....come on chaps, I dare you.....in fact I double dare you.....

(maybe someone should send Sky a special invite for old times sake......


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:42 PM

View Postquillius, on 21 January 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

yes lets hope all the big hitters join in...I want to see McG and Skyeagle especially joining in.....come on chaps, I dare you.....in fact I double dare you.....

(maybe someone should send Sky a special invite for old times sake......

I dont think thats a good idea, it didnt end well the last time. No, Skyeagle is doing the best of work over on the conspiracy forum. Impresive really.



A favorite of mine is the Cumberland spaceman.


http://en.wikipedia...._Firth_Spaceman

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:47 PM

View PostDBunker, on 21 January 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

I dont think thats a good idea, it didnt end well the last time. No, Skyeagle is doing the best of work over on the conspiracy forum. Impresive really.

A favorite of mine is the Cumberland spaceman.


does beg the question as to how someone can be so right and yet so wrong depending on the debate and position he takes.

I thought his best work was on UFOs.

Did you have any take on Tehran then?


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:51 PM

View Postquillius, on 21 January 2013 - 05:47 PM, said:

does beg the question as to how someone can be so right and yet so wrong depending on the debate and position he takes.

I thought his best work was on UFOs.

His personality, I guess. He is like a dog with a bone, no doubt. :tu:


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Did you have any take on Tehran then?

Not yet....... Reading up on it now.

What do you think about the "spaceman"?

Edited by DBunker, 21 January 2013 - 05:53 PM.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:40 AM

I love that Teletubbies one DB ! Its Gotta be real right ? :tu:

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:52 AM

View PostDBunker, on 21 January 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:


A favorite of mine is the Cumberland spaceman.


http://en.wikipedia...._Firth_Spaceman

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What do you think about the "spaceman"?


Im sure that this is all  the evidence that some people need to claim ET is here, but if you ask me, the "spaceman" has been debunked.




I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:13 AM

View PostHazzard, on 22 January 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

Im sure that this is all  the evidence that some people need to claim ET is here, but if you ask me, the "spaceman" has been debunked.



Oh yes, seems as tenuous as most of these satisfactory debunkings seem to be. Didn't he (the chap who took the photo) insist that there was no one else around at the time?
And i love his detective work: "Were hooded tops popular in 1964? Well, it may have been a Mod, who somehow managed to materialise and then disappear in the space of time it took to take one phot, and not be noticed". And this mystery Mod has his hood pulled up tight. Why was this? Well, "Weather conditions were breezy as we can see from the girl's hair blowing forwards". Really? Gosh, how's that for making assumptions to fit your theory. :-/

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:36 AM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 22 January 2013 - 08:13 AM, said:

Oh yes, seems as tenuous as most of these satisfactory debunkings seem to be. Didn't he (the chap who took the photo) insist that there was no one else around at the time?
And i love his detective work: "Were hooded tops popular in 1964? Well, it may have been a Mod, who somehow managed to materialise and then disappear in the space of time it took to take one phot, and not be noticed". And this mystery Mod has his hood pulled up tight. Why was this? Well, "Weather conditions were breezy as we can see from the girl's hair blowing forwards". Really? Gosh, how's that for making assumptions to fit your theory. :-/

At the very least we know that people, hooded jackets and wind exists on Earth,... and that our mind is notorious for playing tricks on us.

This seems like the most logical explanation to me,... instead of a hovering ET beaming in (and then out again)  just in time to spoil Mr Tempeltons photograph.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:20 PM

View PostDBunker, on 21 January 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:

His personality, I guess. He is like a dog with a bone, no doubt. :tu:


yeah I kind of buy that....of course there is the other possibility in that he knew whaat he was talking about over in this section too.......

View PostDBunker, on 21 January 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:


Not yet....... Reading up on it now.

What do you think about the "spaceman"?

ahh the spaceman. For me there are a few things:

1- firstly he says he shot 3 photos and I dont think I have seen three. I have seen one other, and the girls expression is very different in this one, she is smiling in the 'spaceman' photo but shows sadness, bordering anguish in the other. I do not know the order of photos.
2- the excuse for not having seen this figure is that he is focusing through the lens of camera and could easily have missed a real person. I would argue that even if we accept he may have missed another human in shot, what the hell was his wife doing?
3- could it be his wife? exposure creating a slightly obscure version of her hence them not assuming it was her in the shot.

not sure...will have a dig and see what I come up with :)

View PostHazzard, on 22 January 2013 - 08:36 AM, said:

At the very least we know that people, hooded jackets and wind exists on Earth,... and that our mind is notorious for playing tricks on us.

This seems like the most logical explanation to me,... instead of a hovering ET beaming in (and then out again)  just in time to spoil Mr Tempeltons photograph.

:no: :P





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