black mage Posted February 8, 2011 #1 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Im just very curious because this is not the first time the world has either gone thur a big destructive change or just something happens in order to bring new change for the earth. everyone thinks its just a propaganda and w.e but the fact is that it has happened and now as well trained, people are of being brain washed by everything else but whats going on with the earth itself u guys here gotta tell me what if anything can be a solution and why people are just too care free on this issue? either the earth ends by natural causes or a government cover up...any takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted February 9, 2011 #2 Share Posted February 9, 2011 ...why people are just too care free on this issue? This isn't an issue, it's just another year. When 2012 is done and over with there are likely to be some who will claim, "We got the date wrong, it's actually XXX". And of course, those who are completely gullible will believe it. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGirl Posted February 9, 2011 #3 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Im just very curious because this is not the first time the world has either gone thur a big destructive change or just something happens in order to bring new change for the earth. everyone thinks its just a propaganda and w.e but the fact is that it has happened and now as well trained, people are of being brain washed by everything else but whats going on with the earth itself u guys here gotta tell me what if anything can be a solution and why people are just too care free on this issue? either the earth ends by natural causes or a government cover up...any takers? because it's not a big deal, that's why. if you google dates for end of the world prophecies i think you'll be amazed at how many there were, and hey look we are still here...whaddya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhtagnmeister Posted February 9, 2011 #4 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Meh, I've always been skeptical of Apocalypse predictions, 2012 in particular. When I was in Belize a few years back I crossed the border into Guatemala and visited the Mayan ruins of Tekal. Our tour guide was Luiz (con accento over the i, of course), a descendant of the Maya and was in his community considered a shaman. Now here's something interesting. The Mayan Shaman told me that 2012 didn't meant the end of the world. According to him, it just meant a transition from the International Age, which we're in right now, to the Universal Age. He said it would be a time of turmoil, but not the end of the world. I've also done some independent research, (the most, I think, convincing of which I will now site for those who think I'm only trying at versimilitude: Clare Gibson's The Hidden Life of the Ancient Maya, ISBN 978-1-4351-2697-5) that reveals that Mayan calendars have run out before, during the time of the Maya. So they did what we do nowadays when we run out of days to cross off; they made a new calendar. Someone just decided 'ah screw it, let's just stop here, it's not like we're gonna last that long, amiright?' [/smallpox] All the recent theories cropping up that 'support' the 2012 phenomenon have, 90% of the time, only predicted around that area and have in recent years been adjusted to correspond with the 2012 bandwagon. So yeah, that's why I'm personally skeptical. Clearly, 2012 means not the end of the world, but the much more likely and totally-gonna-happen scenario of First Contact, clearly indicated by the moniker 'universal age.' [/condescending sarcasm sure to anger at least one person on the forum so uh sorry about that I guess] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted February 9, 2011 #5 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The Baktun Bug (2012) is somewhat similar to the Millenium Bug, only it will have less impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted February 9, 2011 #6 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Im just very curious because this is not the first time the world has either gone thur a big destructive change or just something happens in order to bring new change for the earth.And what would be the other times?everyone thinks its just a propaganda and w.e but the fact is that it has happened and now as well trained, people are of being brain washed by everything else but whats going on with the earth itself u guys here gotta tell me what if anything can be a solution and why people are just too care free on this issue? either the earth ends by natural causes or a government cover up...any takers? Where are your facts? Besides the ones you've made up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimJim22 Posted February 9, 2011 #7 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Civilizations and cultures rise and fall that is the way it is. It is not always absolute destruction and it won't be the next time. We have been relatively lucky in the sense that there has been a period of stability with no major catastrophes on the scale that historians tell us occur in prehistory. http://www.barry.warmkessel.com/dejonge.html We are currently very resilient but things are beginning to change and we will have to be more adaptable than ever if we want to overcome any obstacles ahead. The Greek tragedies were always about hubris, which is the cardinal sin or arrogance that leads to disaster and a recycling of culture. Ultimately there is always strife and we must endure. Often it can be the struggle that allows us to progress most quickly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris I like the idea of us shifting into a universal age because 2012 is a rebirth not a death. Births are painful though so I doubt it will be rosy or we should expect anything to happen on the 21st of Dec, other than the Galactic cross moving into the path of the Cosmic Tree anyway Final small correction is about Apocalypse. I only found this out the other day so thoought I'd add it. An Apocalypse (Greek: ἀποκάλυψις apokálypsis; "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse The common view is that it means Armageddon or the final battle but this is not what the word actually means. Religion has given us what may turn out to be a false sense of fear or trepidation. There is no running away from the future and there is no point denying whatever does or does not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.H. Holmes Posted February 9, 2011 #8 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (Greek: ἀποκάλυψις apokálypsis; "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") That is from the Wikipedia article on Apocalypse that is referenced above. The word just means a revealing of some sort, which I don't know if it is supposed to be a good or bad thing. I don't really believe in all of the significance of 2012 and there is really no specific event that is supposed to happen. Some say earthquakes, nuclear warfare, meteor rite and other space debris, and UFO's, etc... 2012 will probably be significant in it's own right and I think that the world is in for a huge wakeup call. We will hit peak oil pretty soon, like 30-40 years or so from now. From there it is all downhill for the world's gasoline fueled trading. The United States especially with our mass production, excessive consumption, and mounting debt is going to take a hit when extracting the oil is going to be more expensive than the actual oil itself. Many people, myself included, don't really have any real hopes that we can make the necessary changes in the infrastructure to keep transporting goods and supplies to all of the many cities that are scattered hundreds of miles apart. Scary thought is that the world is kind of ignoring the problem, like cognitive dissonance or something. We are just procrastinating forever and will not really do anything drastic until our lives are being significantly affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent. Mulder Posted February 9, 2011 #9 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Black Mage, read our other threads on why NOTHING significant will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opsis Posted February 9, 2011 #10 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Is it possible for the world to end in 2012? - Sure, afterall we're just the tiniest of specs in the vastness of existence. Do I think the world will end/change in 2012? - No. Though I suppose if tension keep building between the east and the west then i guess things could all come to a head in 2012 though i doubt it i think we're still a few years off WWIII. Do I care? - No, if a meteorite is destined to smash into the earth and split in two or if the alien lizard people decide to reveal themselves and enslave humanity in 2012 there isn't a great deal i can do about it so why worry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimJim22 Posted February 9, 2011 #11 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The 2012 hype is probably designed as a distraction from more close to home concerns. Oil and food prices, climatic turbulence, pollution, etc. are bigger concerns. Even war is out of our control. Who does have the control? Well the system is designed in a flawed why so those with the finance and control only continue to extend their influence. Until that changes what may happen is moot compared to what is actually happening right now. It would be the perfect time to stage some event and cause untold chaos. Maybe mother nature will do that for us. We probably deserve it. How we arrive at the date is through fringe writers interpretation of the mayan calendar. As I understand it they message massive cycles of time in terms of the constellation Cygnus aligning with the Great Rift. This may do absolutely nothing but that is why the date has become an issue. I'd like to see some astronomical event that did not destroy us but we'll have to wait and see if anything at all occurs. Probably not but while we are waitning expectantly we are taking our eyes off the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatebreed63 Posted February 11, 2011 #12 Share Posted February 11, 2011 can't wait for it to happen then i will be able to tell my grandchildren "i was there when that happened" oh... wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Paranormal Skeptic Posted February 11, 2011 #13 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Black Mage, read our other threads on why NOTHING significant will happen. BUT HAROLD CAMPING SAID IT WILL END IN MAY OF 2011!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent. Mulder Posted February 11, 2011 #14 Share Posted February 11, 2011 BUT HAROLD CAMPING SAID IT WILL END IN MAY OF 2011!!! Shhhhh! That WAS a secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tia Posted February 11, 2011 #15 Share Posted February 11, 2011 My mum who is 75 has been told at least 3 times in her life the world would end on a certain day and it hasn't. We've got no control of when our lives end anyway so it's no use being stressed. After all you could have a brain aneurysm just waiting to blow. What gets me is that my 9 year old came home today and someone at school was talking about this and she was scared she was going to die. Kids shouldn't have to worry about a non existent problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent. Mulder Posted February 11, 2011 #16 Share Posted February 11, 2011 My mum who is 75 has been told at least 3 times in her life the world would end on a certain day and it hasn't. We've got no control of when our lives end anyway so it's no use being stressed. After all you could have a brain aneurysm just waiting to blow. What gets me is that my 9 year old came home today and someone at school was talking about this and she was scared she was going to die. Kids shouldn't have to worry about a non existent problem. Go pop that kid in the back of the head. Well, not you. Get your kid to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGhost_and_theDarkness Posted February 11, 2011 #17 Share Posted February 11, 2011 My mum who is 75 has been told at least 3 times in her life the world would end on a certain day and it hasn't. We've got no control of when our lives end anyway so it's no use being stressed. After all you could have a brain aneurysm just waiting to blow. What gets me is that my 9 year old came home today and someone at school was talking about this and she was scared she was going to die. Kids shouldn't have to worry about a non existent problem. My son did the same thing. Of course, being a boy, he thought it was cool. *sigh* boys are so much easier than girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohio traveler Posted February 11, 2011 #18 Share Posted February 11, 2011 It's still too early for most people to care. Once the time gets closer the news media will do some television specials on the subjet and get everyone all wound up. Then it will be a frenzy. Like how everyone goes out and buys milk, bread, and eggs the night before a predicted snow storm. It will be like that but X 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted February 11, 2011 #19 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I remember a friend of mine was completely freaked out by the commercials for the 2012 film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgessel Posted February 11, 2011 #20 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Nothing is gonna happen life will go on as usual, my guess is that they Mayans either left or died out before they could change their long count calender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozner Posted February 11, 2011 #21 Share Posted February 11, 2011 A better question would be, why would we not disregard 2012? Even if the Mayans said that it will be the end of the world (which they didn't) why would the opinion of one long-gone civilization matter in this regard? What makes them more knowledgeable than everyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketzer Posted February 12, 2011 #22 Share Posted February 12, 2011 why people disregard 2012? Because there has been a billion other "end of the world" predictions in the past and it never happened. This one won't be any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeRadio Posted February 12, 2011 #23 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Black Mage, do you realize how many times humanity has endured doomsday scares over the past 2,000 years? Hundreds. Not a single one of those prophecies has ever come true! That's why I'm so ho-hum this time. Been there, done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeRadio Posted February 12, 2011 #24 Share Posted February 12, 2011 (edited) I was terrified back during early 1954 that the world was about to end. I believe that the date for doomsday was March 14th. I was 12 years old. My Mother assured me that she had suffered the same fears back in 1925 when she was ten. Neither doomsday, 29 years apart, ever came to pass. Edited February 12, 2011 by OldTimeRadio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSearcher Posted February 15, 2011 #25 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I was terrified back during early 1954 that the world was about to end. I believe that the date for doomsday was March 14th. I was 12 years old. My Mother assured me that she had suffered the same fears back in 1925 when she was ten. Neither doomsday, 29 years apart, ever came to pass. Which one was the one in 1954 then? I have to admit I didn't know about that one, then again it's hard to keep up with all these end of the world lunacies ... stupidities.....erm .... predictions. Now if anybody wants a good site to use about this 2012 hoax, go here, a site specially set up for people whose kids are frightened by this bs. It shows what the different fringers say and where they either plain lie or misinterpret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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