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Has the internet killed the Loch Ness monster

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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 04:08 PM

Reported sightings of a big beast used to fill us with wonder.

Now, thanks to YouTube – where there is a new cryptozoological sensation every day, from mammoths filmed wandering in the Siberian tundra, to Sasquatch loping through the Canadian backwoods – we're attuned to duplicity. Our innocence is gone, along with an era that was trusting, gullible, even. It may be far-fetched to suggest that those 1930s monster-believers were contemporaneous with fellow Europeans who placed their faith in real-life monsters – the totalitarian leaders who offered darker and more dangerous fantasies – but it is undeniable that in the internet age, it is much more difficult to fool us. Or at least, that's what we think.

http://www.guardian....ch-ness-monster

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 04:52 PM

I think the lack of existing hurt it the most. ;)

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 04:56 PM

View PostJeffertonturner, on 04 May 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

I think the lack of existing hurt it the most. ;)

Information is a bittch aint it lol

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 04:58 PM

We need a body of this and other mythical creatures.


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 05:03 PM

The internet has killed many things, including but not limited to :

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:56 AM

Its kinda hard to kill something that never existed in the first place, dont you think.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 09:04 AM

I think the opposite, the internet has increased the belief in such things. All you have to do is Google and you'll get a dozen sights with people all claiming to have had encounters with the critter......but no good pictures......and then the Doctor who took the infamous picture decided to come clean on his hoax that lasted for over fifty years. Pretty hard to say something is real when the only good picture is actually a rubber dinosaur head mounted on a toy submarine.

Sort of like boobs on a hot Hollywood starlet, they look great but they're just bags of silicon really. In short, they ain't real.


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:07 AM

View Postkeninsc, on 05 May 2013 - 09:04 AM, said:

I think the opposite, the Internet has increased the belief in such things...
I'd tend to agree, except with regard to a couple of examples...  Certainly ghosts and UFO=alienz folks seem to be growing.. or maybe it's simply because they used to have little or no voice - may I rudely suggest that anonymity can make people with weird views very brave...

However, I can give a couple of examples where I think the Internet has dramatically reduced CT-belief..

First, Apollo denial is definitely on the wane, and I think that is largely because the evidence for it is not only incredibly comprehensive and relatively easy to find, it is all consistent and cross-checkable, and being verified with all sorts of new information from various sources.

Another example is 'chem'trails.  Like Apollo it had a buildup of interest for a short while but it seems to be on the decline also - for differing reasons?  I'm not entirely sure why - perhaps it is just that the whole idea is just too stupid..


It would be nice to think that the Internet helped people become more aware, and better educated, and wiser..  but perhaps I am too optimistic.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:16 AM

Video killed the radio star....video killed the radio star :su


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 11:15 AM

View PostChrlzs, on 05 May 2013 - 10:07 AM, said:

I'd tend to agree, except with regard to a couple of examples...  Certainly ghosts and UFO=alienz folks seem to be growing.. or maybe it's simply because they used to have little or no voice - may I rudely suggest that anonymity can make people with weird views very brave...

However, I can give a couple of examples where I think the Internet has dramatically reduced CT-belief..

First, Apollo denial is definitely on the wane, and I think that is largely because the evidence for it is not only incredibly comprehensive and relatively easy to find, it is all consistent and cross-checkable, and being verified with all sorts of new information from various sources.

Another example is 'chem'trails.  Like Apollo it had a buildup of interest for a short while but it seems to be on the decline also - for differing reasons?  I'm not entirely sure why - perhaps it is just that the whole idea is just too stupid..


It would be nice to think that the Internet helped people become more aware, and better educated, and wiser..  but perhaps I am too optimistic.


.....and by contrast, the Flat Earth Society has grown exponentially.


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 12:05 PM

I think the internet has muddied all aspects of cryptozoology. The amount of hoaxes and lies have only increased. There are that many people hoaxing it has killed every "monster" there ever was.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 12:25 PM

View Postdanbell06, on 05 May 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

There are that many people hoaxing it has killed every "monster" there ever was.

Yep,...and sometimes even killed the hoaxer himself. http://www.livescien...n-accident.html

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 12:34 PM

View PostChrlzs, on 05 May 2013 - 10:07 AM, said:

I'd tend to agree, except with regard to a couple of examples...  Certainly ghosts and UFO=alienz folks seem to be growing.. or maybe it's simply because they used to have little or no voice - may I rudely suggest that anonymity can make people with weird views very brave...

However, I can give a couple of examples where I think the Internet has dramatically reduced CT-belief..

First, Apollo denial is definitely on the wane, and I think that is largely because the evidence for it is not only incredibly comprehensive and relatively easy to find, it is all consistent and cross-checkable, and being verified with all sorts of new information from various sources.

Another example is 'chem'trails.  Like Apollo it had a buildup of interest for a short while but it seems to be on the decline also - for differing reasons?  I'm not entirely sure why - perhaps it is just that the whole idea is just too stupid..


It would be nice to think that the Internet helped people become more aware, and better educated, and wiser..  but perhaps I am too optimistic.

For my part it was finally getting interested in Crypto and paranormal stuff on the internet that finally opened my eyes with regard to the fact that everything that I thought was "evidence" (which had previously been driving my positive beliefs) was in fact not evidence at all.

I think for many people who are more gullible, the opposite is true.  As I've said many times it was finding this site to actually look up information on a creature I believed in at the time - Bigfoot - that ultimately awakened my nature as someone who needs hard proof that stuff like this exists...and helped me understand what proof really is.

So I think it goes both ways - it depends on the individual - and their individual standards for what passes as evidence for these kinds of phenomena.

That said - the abundance of information available online will ultimately be the downfall of many crypto animals - but thats not the internet's fault - thats because they probably don't exist and the truth always has a way of getting out.  The internet will just ultimately bring that about more quickly.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 02:30 PM

View PostHazzard, on 05 May 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:



Yep,...and sometimes even killed the hoaxer himself. http://www.livescien...n-accident.html

What an idiot. I wonder if hoaxing was worth dying for?

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 12:47 AM

The only thing that killed the Loch Ness Monster for me was weak/inconsistent facts and lack of evidence.

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