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The Voronezh Incident - Russia 1989


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#1    zoser

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 02:34 PM

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One of the most bizarre accounts of UFO folklore involves an incident that allegedly occurred in Voronezh, Russia. This case was reported in the United States by the St. Louis Dispatch. The story was originally published on October 11, 1989, in America, but its origin was the Russian newspaper TASS.

The report recounts the adventures of several young children who claimed to have seen a three-eyed alien with a robot escort. The alien was said to be about nine foot tall. The craft, according to eye witness testimony, landed on the outskirts of the city. Shortly thereafter, the tall alien appeared, and upon seeing the young lad, shot a type of weapon at him, causing him to vanish before the eyes of the other people around him.




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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:13 PM

Sorry for my late appearance at this thread :)
However, some points. The UFO landed in a park were about forty kids were playing several football games. The "Alien" had emerged from it's ship with a robot, rather like in the film "The day the Earth stood Still". The alien pointed the "raygun" at one of the boys and he vanished. The alien and robot then walked about for some minutes before returning to their craft. As soon as the ship launched, the boy re-appeared. The caveats for this story -  The boy was never named or interviewed, which seems suspicious. Voronezh is the home to the Hi-Tech Tupolev factory that produced Konkordski, and other planes perhaps more secret and still unknown. Across road from Tupolev factory was secret Soviet airforce base. I think if you add 2+2, then the answer will certainly be 4 :)

edited to add that for several days before this incident there were many reports of UFO over Voronezh. Friend of mine lived in Voronezh at that time, but he never saw any UFO or robots, though guys still talk about this and say it was all true...

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:23 PM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 20 November 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

Sorry for my late appearance at this thread :)
However, some points. The UFO landed in a park were about forty kids were playing several football games. The "Alien" had emerged from it's ship with a robot, rather like in the film "The day the Earth stood Still". The alien pointed the "raygun" at one of the boys and he vanished. The alien and robot then walked about for some minutes before returning to their craft. As soon as the ship launched, the boy re-appeared. The caveats for this story -  The boy was never named or interviewed, which seems suspicious. Voronezh is the home to the Hi-Tech Tupolev factory that produced Konkordski, and other planes perhaps more secret and still unknown. Across road from Tupolev factory was secret Soviet airforce base. I think if you add 2+2, then the answer will certainly be 4 :)

edited to add that for several days before this incident there were many reports of UFO over Voronezh. Friend of mine lived in Voronezh at that time, but he never saw any UFO or robots, though guys still talk about this and say it was all true...

Were there really any 'high-tech' factories in Russia at that time?  Indeed are there any today?   It's a big stretch to make a connection between any 'Russian tractor factory' and a flying saucer with giant aliens.

I cannot make a link like that I'm sorry.  Nothing in Russia was ever likely to resemble that craft (which was described in quite specific detail) at that time.  The 'aliens' were also described in some detail.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:31 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 November 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

[...]   It's a big stretch to make a connection between any 'Russian tractor factory' and a flying saucer with giant aliens.
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You call that

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tractor?!!!
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:34 PM

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It's a big stretch to make a connection between any 'Russian tractor factory' and a flying saucer with giant aliens.

So it's a stretch to think it's something from a Russian factory, tied with a story that could have very well been embellished and altered over the years, but it's fine to believe a giant alien and his pet robot decided to visit a park, shoot a kid, and reanimate him, and then go on its merry way?


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:38 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 20 November 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

You call that

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tractor?!!!
:w00t:

Compared to this it's a rust lawn mower:

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:42 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 November 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Were there really any 'high-tech' factories in Russia at that time?  Indeed are there any today?   It's a big stretch to make a connection between any 'Russian tractor factory' and a flying saucer with giant aliens.

I cannot make a link like that I'm sorry.  Nothing in Russia was ever likely to resemble that craft (which was described in quite specific detail) at that time.  The 'aliens' were also described in some detail.
Aliens and UFO were described in terms very typical of what is seen on sci-fi films. Also the TV series "Guest from the future" was still very fresh in peoples minds then, and still is..... Also slightly older films such as "Secret of the iron door" with it's big robot. As for Soviet tech, well, Sputnik, Gagarin, Leonov, Tereshkova. And in 1968 was produced T-64 which was much more superior to all NATO tanks until it was replaced 10 years later with T-80, which was superior until M1. And there was Tetris!


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:17 PM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 20 November 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

Aliens and UFO were described in terms very typical of what is seen on sci-fi films. Also the TV series "Guest from the future" was still very fresh in peoples minds then, and still is..... Also slightly older films such as "Secret of the iron door" with it's big robot. As for Soviet tech, well, Sputnik, Gagarin, Leonov, Tereshkova. And in 1968 was produced T-64 which was much more superior to all NATO tanks until it was replaced 10 years later with T-80, which was superior until M1. And there was Tetris!

All I can suggest is that you research the subject more widely.  There is far more to this phenomena that some local hysteria based on Hollywood movies I can assure you.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:19 PM

View PostCpl599, on 20 November 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

So it's a stretch to think it's something from a Russian factory, tied with a story that could have very well been embellished and altered over the years, but it's fine to believe a giant alien and his pet robot decided to visit a park, shoot a kid, and reanimate him, and then go on its merry way?

Anything is possible in this vast universe.  Examine the testimonies and report back; whether one gives it personal credibility is irrelevant.  One has to start with the eye witnesses.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:20 PM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 20 November 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

[...]Also the TV series "Guest from the future" was still very fresh in peoples minds then, and still is..... [...]
Heh... "Люблю помучить, поиздеваться"...  Priceless. Damn, want to see it again...

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 20 November 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

[...] As for Soviet tech, well, Sputnik, Gagarin, Leonov, Tereshkova. And in 1968 was produced T-64 which was much more superior to all NATO tanks until it was replaced 10 years later with T-80, which was superior until M1. [...]
Hmmm... What about T-90?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:29 PM

BTW, zoser, why did you excluded this case form "tantalizing"? Aren't you tantalized by weapons, shooting, etc, huh?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:35 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 20 November 2012 - 08:20 PM, said:

Heh... "Люблю помучить, поиздеваться"...  Priceless. Damn, want to see it again...

Hmmm... What about T-90?
летающая корова :D
T-90MS has good turret, but still too small I think. A lot of sensors and such very cluttered and exposed. Still wait to see something totally new emerge from Nizhny Tagil....


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:37 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 20 November 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

BTW, zoser, why did you excluded this case form "tantalizing"? Aren't you tantalized by weapons, shooting, etc, huh?

This was before the epic TT thread began.  It's a worthy case though I have to agree.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:40 PM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 20 November 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

летающая корова :D
[...]
That bit slipped my memory...


View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 20 November 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

[...]T-90MS has good turret, but still too small I think. A lot of sensors and such very cluttered and exposed. Still wait to see something totally new emerge from Nizhny Tagil....
T-95...


Anyway, back on topic, all this story is just a story... Fantasies mixed with more fantasies...

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:43 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 November 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

[...]  It's a worthy case though I have to agree.
Ummm... I have a bridge to sell...
Cmon, zoser, find something really worth to dig in...

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