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The disappearance of Ray Gricar

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#1    SuperSmith

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:35 PM

TruTV shutdown their Crime Library discussion threads.  Much information was lost but I hope to rangle some of the veteran posters here to further discuss the disappearance of Ray Gricar.


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:51 PM

I believe Ray Gricar was murdered.  I believe he got in the wrong person(s) way and he was professionally taken out.  Little to no evidence of a crime scene supports this.  The laptop/harddrive being found in the river months after, in obvious locations, that had been extensively searched supports foul play.  I believe the investigation has been coached all along.  I believe Ray Gricar was an upstanding man, tough prosecutor, and good father.  I do not believe he would up and leave his life, career, and daughter.  He was going to retire at the end of the year so this simply doesn't make sense.  Also his brother (Roy) had gone missing in 1995, later found in the Ohio River an apparent suicide.  I do not believe Ray Gricar would mock his brothers act and further destroy his family.


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:31 PM

For those who may be interested in the Ray Gricar case and want to read a first hand account this site is a good place to start.  This was done by an Assistant District Attorney (Karen Arnold) who worked with Gricar for many years up until his disappearance.

https://sites.google...rdisappearance/


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 03:25 PM

Hi Supersmith and thanks for starting this forum!


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 04:09 PM

Ray Frank Gricar was an American attorney who served as the district attorney of Centre County, Pennsylvania, from 1985 until 2005. On April 15, 2005, Gricar went missing under mysterious circumstances and has not been heard from since. Wikipedia
Born: October 9, 1945 (age 67), Cleveland, OH
Party: Republican Party
Education: University of Dayton, Case Western Reserve University


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 04:59 PM

Thanks, SuperSmith!  This gives us veterans an opportunity to continue our sleuthing as well as an opportunity for possibly some new to the case to join in.
New thoughts are definitely welcome!

In this time period between the 'other' forum closing down and finding this one, I was concerned all of our eight years of brain-storrming might get lost.
We bring it with us, so here's hoping a new start might bring some new ideas.  The time between the board closing down and the present brought many of our theories to mind for me, and I found the most important element to be something you mention as well...............the investigation being 'coached'.  Who has such power in the state to be able to coach so many different investigators?  Or was it just the easy way out?  I doubt this case is a closed file anywhere.  It just seems like it has to be a case of 'not a clue', and the need for new evidence of any type to surface?  A conspiracy theory involving ALL LE departments would seem to be impossible, but that brought me to the point of asking WHO in the scheme of things 'coached', whether it be suicide or walk-away, and why?  This is where I've been stuck since the board closed down.

My last 'theory' involved an ADA, but the more I think about it, no way would the ADA have the means to coach the investigation.  The reason has to be bigger than that ---------only reasons I can think of is 1) there is a suspect but without enough evidence can't charge or 2) it is as involved and multi-layered as the Sandusky situation and a protective measure is in place.  My biggest question there is.............why NO Second Mile investigation?  

Just my opinion

Edited by lw-intuit, 11 September 2013 - 05:00 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 05:49 PM

I believe the AG had a lot to do with steering the investigation early on.


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 05:52 PM

I'm starting to worry about ray (awful song, couldn't resist)


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:39 PM

View PostSheWomanCatTypeThing, on 11 September 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

I'm starting to worry about ray (awful song, couldn't resist)
Well at least your cute.......


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:44 PM

View PostSuperSmith, on 11 September 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

I believe the AG had a lot to do with steering the investigation early on.

I can't think of any other office that could steer the investigation at so many levels, other than the AG's office, but why?


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:46 PM

View Postlw-intuit, on 11 September 2013 - 07:44 PM, said:

I can't think of any other office that could steer the investigation at so many levels, other than the AG's office, but why?

Because they were in bed with the Second Mile as way CYS & DPW.........just my opinion


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:30 PM

View PostSuperSmith, on 11 September 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

Because they were in bed with the Second Mile as way CYS & DPW.........just my opinion

Likewise, my opinion as well.   That could change if there was an investigation into the Second Mile re: Sandusky, but no counting on that ever happening.  Power and money rule, it appears, and that money appears to have gone all the way to the top.


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Posted 14 September 2013 - 03:24 AM

View Postlw-intuit, on 11 September 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:



Likewise, my opinion as well.   That could change if there was an investigation into the Second Mile re: Sandusky, but no counting on that ever happening.  Power and money rule, it appears, and that money appears to have gone all the way to the top.
I agree.  I just got out of the hospital but I will get with it tomorrow.  I'm going to see what I can find off of my regular PC to bring onto this thread.


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Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:06 PM

From what I've learned about this case, I think the circumstances point to suicide.


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Posted 16 September 2013 - 01:29 PM

View Postregi, on 14 September 2013 - 06:06 PM, said:

From what I've learned about this case, I think the circumstances point to suicide.

With no body??





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