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[TheMacGuffin]

And I have always thought that those who demand "official" disclosure from the government should be very leery of what they ask for, since they might get yet another report about Project Mogul and crash test dummies, written by a reincarnated Dr. Condon!

[Jacques Terreur]

TheMacGuffin, on 19 July 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

...., and Brazel supposedly made that remark to him that the "little green men" weren't really green.  LOL

i always thought that was just an übercool punchline in the movie adaption, he really said that?

[TheMacGuffin]

Jacques Terreur, on 19 July 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

i always thought that was just an übercool punchline in the movie adaption, he really said that?

Frank Joyce said he did, and also that Brazel did get his $3,000 or whatever it was for keeping his mouth shut.  He saw him driving around town in the new truck after this.

He didn't have a tape recording of this conversation, of course, and Brazel has been dead for a long time so it's impossible to confirm anything.  Personally I believe he did say something like that, and similar things to close friends and family members over the years, but he rarely said much of anything about it--and never in public after 1947.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 19 July 2012 - 04:10 PM.

[Jacques Terreur]

i didn't expect any audio proof, but just the thought that it's no quote made up by a cheesy screen writer is so awesome....

[TheMacGuffin]

And this website states that Lydia Sleppy had been telling her Roswell crash story for years before she talked to Saga magazine in 1973.  I believe that, too, because even her son and other friends knew this story many years before it became world famous.

http://ufocon.blogsp...-hoopla-by.html



Richard Glaze, a Professor of Agriculture at New Mexico State University (NMSU), also recalled that Loretta Proctor was telling the Roswell crash story in 1960, and in great detail, when he visited her ranch to look for arrowheads.  I believe that Loretta Proctor has probably been telling this story forever since 1947, to anyone who would listen, and she has certainly not been shy about it.  Whatever threats and inducements they may have used on others to keep them quiet do not seem to have had the slightest effect on her.

[mcrom901]

TheMacGuffin, on 19 July 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

And this website states that Lydia Sleppy had been telling her Roswell crash story for years before she talked to Saga magazine in 1973.

"As the woman was typing the fantastic news item over the teletype to their other two stations, a line appeared in the middle of her text, tapped in from somewhere, with the official order, 'Do not continue this transmission!' "

[Myles]

quillius, on 19 July 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

???? huh lots of ex military claimed to know that Bigfoot exists?

I don't believe that ex military is the same as being trustworthy.

[DONTEATUS]

How did His Hair ?

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Myles, on 19 July 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

I don't believe that ex military is the same as being trustworthy.

Maybe that's the difference between the American and the British outlook. Across the 'Pond', I think nearly everyone would trust any member or ex member of the Military, be they a mere private or senior officer, infinitely more than they would, for example, any politician or anyone in the Media.

[Myles]

747400, on 19 July 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

Maybe that's the difference between the American and the British outlook. Across the 'Pond', I think nearly everyone would trust any member or ex member of the Military, be they a mere private or senior officer, infinitely more than they would, for example, any politician or anyone in the Media.

Now politicians and media folks are in a separate catagory alltogether.

[psyche101]

Karlis, on 19 July 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions concerning the statement that, "the teletype machine she used could not be interrupted by the FBI"?

Could it be that "perhaps ???" Merle Tucker was responsible for the interruption?

We know that the "station manager" was a reporter, Johnny McBoyle, who told researchers that he’d seen a craft that looked like a battered dishpan. We know the station owner was Merle Tucker who owned KSWS in Roswell and had been out looking to buy another radio station or two.

What do you mean? That Merle tucker walked up to the machine and flipped the switch whilst Sleppy was typing?

It is still a manual operation, a transmission could not be interrupted as described.


At that point, in order for Sleppy to receive the incoming message and have it print out for her to view, she would have to have then thrown a manual switch to put the machine into the receive mode."

[psyche101]

DONTEATUS, on 19 July 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

How did His Hair ?

Giorgio's relative? Dad?

[DONTEATUS]

psyche101, on 19 July 2012 - 11:33 PM, said:

Giorgio's relative? Dad?

Thats where I was trying to go with that post but I spilled my B.B.Q sauce all over the keyboard and Ate it !
Now Im really feeling Good about Roswell stories ! THere like Fairy Tales for the Lost In Space Group ! Well I kinda Fall into that one !
Danger ,Will Robinson DANGER !

[TheMacGuffin]

psyche101, on 19 July 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

At that point, in order for Sleppy to receive the incoming message and have it print out for her to view, she would have to have then thrown a manual switch to put the machine into the receive mode."

I can't claim to be an expert on 1947 teletype machines.  In her original version in 1973-74, Lydia Sleppy just made it sound like someone had tapped into it, and only many years later did she mention the FBI.  At this late date, in the absence of any records at all except this story she was telling for years, there's no way to know.

Kal Korff was the one who talked about the ringing bell and the switch, although from what I have heard about him, I'm surprised that he could even tie his shoes or get out of his own way.  I mean, literally.  Some people thought he was a CIA guy, but I have real questions about whether he could even walk and breathe at the time, much less walk and chew gum.  

I rarely say such things about anyone, but in Korff's case, well, that's just what I've heard.  I'm not sure that he knew what he was talking about at all, on any subject.  I don't think he could have hit his plate with a fork or found his way to the restroom.

What was that story about how he just flipped out completely and started pretending that he was an Israeli agent or something?  He was running around Europe insisting that everyone call him Captain Korff or Captain Crunch or some damn thing?

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 20 July 2012 - 12:30 AM.

[TheMacGuffin]

There was a discussion about this on ATS.  It seems that he promoted himself to Col. Korff in the Israeli secret service and started talking about how he had built an atomic bomb in grade school.

Even by the generous standards of Ufology, this guy is just not playing with a full deck, probably not even half a deck.

http://www.abovetops...hread422063/pg1