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[fullywired]

Paranoid Android, on 11 January 2013 - 05:06 AM, said:

..  I would argue that it was an angel holding a shaky ladder.  

~ Regards, PA

And no doubt Mr Walker would agree with you


fullywired

[Crikey]

Some angels in the bible are stereotype glowing figures, but others look completely human-
"Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels unawares"- (Hebrews 13:2)

Some angels are tremendously powerful killing machines-
"And God sent an angel to destroy Jerusalem. But as the angel was doing so, the Lord saw it and was grieved because of the calamity and said to the angel who was destroying the people, "Enough! Withdraw your hand" (1 Chron 21:15/16)

Don't bother asking an angel its name! One said "Why do you ask my name? It is beyond human understanding"(Judges 13:17/18)

Some angels are completely invisible, hovering around us like spiritual guardians protecting our minds against demonic attack-
"If you make the Most High your dwelling
even the Lord, who is my refuge, then no harm will befall you,
no disaster will come near your tent, for he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways" (Psalm 91:9-11)

Edited by Crikey, 11 January 2013 - 08:13 PM.

[emberdawn]

Fullywired  Topic: Spiritual Jokes

[Andromedan Starseed 333]

i think religions all of them are B.S  honestly.do i believe in spirits and etc i do but not demons or this jesus  character lets say if he was real then he just a man i wouldn't get on my knees and start worshiping the guy.whether he was the son of god blah blah i don't care.the bible its just a collection of stories with some truth.there's no noah and etc.religion is fake and a control system to controll people and take away peoples power that we ourselves have.we are extensions of the creator and to make myself crystal clear i am not talking about none of these gods that religions speak of none of them.so in other words we have the power to create and etc.as for angels welli believe there are types of related things to angels but not thte ones religion speaks of.wait a minute i did see the virgin mary though on my tortilla lol.the bible is not the wordof god its just a book nothing more.stop looking for heaven and hell which are fake and make your heaven here on earth

Edited by King Cobra 1408, 11 January 2013 - 08:45 PM.

[MJNYC]

I'm sorry that you think that Jesus is not real King Cobra, but He is.

You should read "Proof of Heaven" and "Heaven is Real".  Hope you do.

[Paranoid Android]

fullywired, on 11 January 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:

And no doubt Mr Walker would agree with you


fullywired

Very possible, but there's more than just he around the forums....

[Blueogre2]

Yeah, I think they are real, and I also think their is more to them then has been explained  by any earthly religion. They are those superior beings that exist beyond the veil between this world and the next. Some of them are good and others not so much. Either way they have a real impact on our lives here on earth, Thats my two cents at least

[DigitalDreamer]

Let's not immediately say "Oh bible this and bible that" lets see that maybe once we die, there is this state in which part of your conscious continues on.I have no evidence to support this, just what if?

[Hilander]

After seeing a ghost I think they are real too.  I haven't seen one that I know of.

Crikey that is one hot angel.

[ashven]

King Cobra,i'm a devoted atheist but i can tell you Jesus the man was real,documented in Roman records but i agree with you,Jesus the God, utter nonsense. As for angels,of course messengers exist in our imagination ( as in the cases of prophets ) but as some spiritual being again,nonsense,it's a lack of knowledge that when we fully understand the brain we'll look back at and laugh at our old belief systems as the Abrahamic religions do to each other and all others

Edited by ashven, 12 January 2013 - 10:23 AM.

[fullywired]

Paranoid Android, on 11 January 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

Very possible, but there's more than just he around the forums....

Yes but they don't have his expertise on angels




fullywired

.thought you might like this

http://www.rhapsody....-the-the-ladder

Edited by fullywired, 12 January 2013 - 11:07 AM.

[King Fluffs]

No.

[Mr Walker]

Angels are real, physical, indpendent entites just like I am or you are. I know this rather than believe it.

And it worries me not a hoot that any one else might chose to  disbelieve. That is a human prerogative and, indeed, may be a part of the whole relationship between man, god and angels. It is not my job to convince anyone else; rather everyone must either believe in faith, or wait until they encounter such an entity for themselves.
I once described it in a thread like this. Supose you walk down a moonlit path in the bush one night by yourself You encouter a wombat, an alien being,  a ghost, and an angel.

How do you know waht each one is?

What evidences do you use to determine the independent reality of each as a physicl aentity outside your minds perception? Why should you asume the wombat is real and the others are not, especially if you are not in australia at the time  If you use the same observations, evidentiary procedures, logic, checks and balances, to determine the independent reality of each entity, why should you doubt the validity /reality of any of them   Part of your procedure will be to check your own sobriety wakefulness mental state etc., but you should also check whether prexisting disbelief and denial may prejudice your accepetance of a new reality  I trust my senses and mental state and they have NEVER let me down in 40 years (once i gave up alcohol aged 22)

Edited by Mr Walker, 12 January 2013 - 12:43 PM.

[joc]

Mr Walker, on 12 January 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

Angels are real, physical, indpendent entites just like I am or you are. I know this rather than believe it.

And it worries me not a hoot that any one else might chose to  disbelieve. That is a human prerogative and, indeed, may be a part of the whole relationship between man, god and angels. It is not my job to convince anyone else; rather everyone must either believe in faith, or wait until they encounter such an entity for themselves

I don't know that angels exist.  I don't believe that angels exist.   But....and....

...it also seems to me quite naive to think that in a Universe that is infinite,   Humans are the Top Life Form.   We are carbon based life forms, but I see no reason why there couldn't be for instance Silicon Based life forms...or Life Forms that exist as a Gas or Solid depending on their environment.  There is just so much we don't know and aren't able to know about this marvelous universe.  So, I think Angels probably do exist.

[Beckys_Mom]

joc, on 12 January 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

I don't know that angels exist. I don't believe that angels exist.   But....and....

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So, I think Angels probably do exist.

You're good at making up your mind and sticking with it lol

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   ..it also seems to me quite naive to think that in a Universe that is infinite, Humans are the Top Life Form.

I agree, it is rather naive to think that we are the be all and end all ..I think that, out of this massive universe, we living on such a small planet, yet we can be most arrogant to think we are the one and only...  If earth were to disappear, there wouldn't be much of a difference made in the universe ..Our solar system maybe, but not the entire universe

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So, I think Angels probably do exist.

And then some.. I too believe in angels, I also believe that there could be other forms out there we have not yet experienced..  For many, what we call angels, could well be something else?

Edited by Beckys_Mom, 12 January 2013 - 12:56 PM.