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#616    Sweetpumper

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:25 PM

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:



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Eskimo carrying backpack.

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Ceremonial mask.

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Grey and reptilian aliens.



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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:27 PM

View PostGaden, on 04 December 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

Mine is evidenced. Remains of ramps are on site. Chisel marks are on the stone. Copper tools have been found. Here is an actual picture of actual tools found.Attachment The Tools.jpg

From "How the Great Pyramid Was Built" by Craig B. Smith
Records survive that reveal the ancient Egyptians knew how to calculate the volume of materials required to construct ramps. But more significantly, I have seen remains of ramps at Giza and other Old Kingdom sites--most notable among them, a large ramp roughly 5.5 meters wide that leads up from the quarry site west of the Sphinx to the vicinity of Khufu's Queen's Pyramids. Clearly ramps were emplyed by the Pyramid builders in some fashion.The Rhind mathmatical papyrus gives details about calculating the volume of a ramp. Another written record (the papyrus of Anastasi I) includes an exercise asking a scribe named Amenemope to calculate the number of bricks needed to build a ramp 730 cubits (383 meters) long, 60 cubits (31.4 meters) high, and 55 cubits (28.8 meters) wide at the top. This ramp was composed of a series of brick compartments or chambers that would be subsequently be filled with earth.
Construction ramps are also shown in tomb drawings. One example, cited by both Clarke and Arnold, is from the tomb of Rekhmira at Thebes. The ramp is constructed of brick, reed mats, and filler material. The top surface appars to be paved with limestone, and on the ramp is a roofing slab in position to be pulled up for placement. Remains of a construction ramp at the east face of a huge pylon at Karnak illustrate one construction technique. Sturdy walls of mud brick were built perpendicular to the face of the pylon, 4 to 6 cubits (2 to 3 meters) apart. Although the wallsare in a state of decay, it appears that there were seven of them, giving the ramp a width of 30 to 40 cubits at the top. The space between the walls was filled with hard-packed earth and rubble. As the construction rose, the ramp was extended and the height increased. Ultimately, it would have been about 80 cubits (42 meters) high.
Moreover, records have been found detailing rations of food and beer for the workers. There is the workers cemetary. There are tombs for the overseeres with their respective job title inscribed on them.
Here is an actual picture of the pyramid, and I want you to take notice of the lack of straight lines.
Attachment building-blocks-great-pyramid-500.jpgLook at how rough the cuts are. Now, who is dealing with pure conjecture, and who has the evidence on their side?

It still has not been duplicated with the tools and ramps described.

They have already tried to duplicate it, but failed miserably. Prove that it can be built with the ramps, pulleys and tools described. You can't do it and never will be able to do it. Craig B. Smith can not back up his theory with hard solid evidence. The ancients used certain techniques that the builders of that Nippon abomination have absolutely no idea about, thus they failed and threw their toys out the pram and called in modern technology to complete their failed attempt for a great pyramid. .    

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:30 PM

View PostGaden, on 04 December 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:


I noticed some of these came from AA. not the best source for critical thinking.

At least the creators of the show are open-minded, which is more than what can be said for Egyptologists and their army of die-hard skeptics.


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:37 PM

View PostLRW, on 04 December 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

At least the creators of the show are open-minded, which is more than what can be said for Egyptologists and their army of die-hard skeptics.

The people on that show have been shown time and time again that they are telling outright lies. When one looks at something and says "it had to be aliens" shows that they are close minded.

I'm trying to see things from your point of view, I just can't get my head that far up my butt

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Sorry; the art work is all over the ancient world and no one can explain it.  

Two minutes work: Literally

Give me 10- minutes and I'll show you several hundred.

They've been explained repeatedly. The unwillingness of certain parties to accept the explanations does not negate them.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:39 PM

View PostLRW, on 04 December 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

At least the creators of the show are open-minded, which is more than what can be said for Egyptologists and their army of die-hard skeptics.
You mean weathered-minded? Something like that?
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:39 PM

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

To those with an ounce of reasoning the way they did it must have employed some advanced method such as light or sound.
But that doesn't make sense of the drill/spiral marks on the holes - light or sound cutting techniques wouldn't have left any sort of mark like that, if anything they'd either be smooth or show a sort of melting effect as the hole got deeper the parts towards the top are exposed to whatever was doing the digging more and more.

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

How about ancient art in Europe, North America and South America that portrays inexplicable humanoids often wearing equipment that we directly relate to space travellers.  What about the art portraying space craft in India and other parts of the world.  How does one explain the Dogon mystery?

It's all there if you care to look.  On the other hand if your big thing is bolting together outlandish explanations for such things to make it fit some outdated paradigm then I guess these things will pass you by.
Well that IMO just proves the universality of the halo as a sign of divinity/otherness and not "there were blokes wearing atmosphere suits".


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:03 PM

View PostLRW, on 04 December 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:

... Prove that it can be built with the ramps, pulleys and tools described. You can't do it and never will be able to do it. Craig B. Smith can not back up his theory with hard solid evidence

I guess you missed the hard solid evidence that was presented.

I'm trying to see things from your point of view, I just can't get my head that far up my butt

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:23 PM

View PostGaden, on 04 December 2012 - 09:37 PM, said:

The people on that show have been shown time and time again that they are telling outright lies. When one looks at something and says "it had to be aliens" shows that they are close minded.


Egyptologists are also telling lies, they are not backing up their theory with hard evidence. Yet, they do the same as the people on AA, only the Egyptologists say that Khufu had to have built it and that no one else could have built it, undeniable proof they say, khufu had to have built it, thats the tone of Zahi Hawass and co. They sound like a broken record. The more they say that Khufu built it, the more suspicious they sound.

Hawass has been widely accused of domineering behaviour, forbidding archaeologists to announce their own findings, and courting the media for his own gain after they were denied access to archaeological sites because, according to Hawass, they were too amateurish.  

amateurish? thats coming from the same moron who thinks that modern egyptians ancestors built the pyramids and were pharaohs, while blindly ignoring the fact that royal mummies found in the area had blonde or red hair tones, something that is not seen in modern egyptians general appearance, rarely if ever are they blonde or red haired. Proof that they do not share close genetic ties with the mummies unearthed.  

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Hawass and other egyptologists steal other tribes history for themselves.

The people on AA are interesting, at least they are putting forth an alternative theory, whether or not its true is one thing, but for sure the more theories put out, then the better.

Egyptologists having the monopoly of the debate is disgusting.


View PostGaden, on 04 December 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:

I guess you missed the hard solid evidence that was presented.

You did not provide any evidence, you provided an unproven theory.

Hard solid evidence my ass.

Until people can replicate the former glory of the pyramids with a cherry on top, built by using primitive ramps, pulleys and copper chisels. Then i have no reason to accept your theory as hard solid evidence.

All i see is this attempt. Thats not a great pyramid, its an abomination.  

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:26 PM

you're not going to accept one unproven theory because it has failed in it's attempts to duplicate the feats of the past but you,re happy to acept  theory that is impossible to prove full stop?


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:36 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 04 December 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

you're not going to accept one unproven theory because it has failed in it's attempts to duplicate the feats of the past but you,re happy to acept  theory that is impossible to prove full stop?

You can lead a horse to water... likewise, you can offer a dose of reality to one living in fantasy land...

I'm trying to see things from your point of view, I just can't get my head that far up my butt

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:43 PM

View Postbee, on 04 December 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

You do love to use Straw Man arguements don't you...

But it's not very honest, is it?


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:53 PM

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

You sound ridiculous.  You are avoiding the issue.  If they used pipes then tell us how they made them.   Simple.

Now I refuse to let you skeptics get away with this one.  Your either going to furnish the convincing argument as to how the ancients made deep holes in red granite, diorite and basalt, or you are going to retract the silly theories completely once and for all.

By holes I mean 2-3 inch diameter, and at least 2 feet deep.

An old boxing saying goes "You can run but you can't hide".

It's time to put up or shut up on this one.

Actually Zoser I am not going to let you get away with this statement..

There has been convincing arguments.. many throughout the years..

so its time for you to put up or shut up and prove aliens did this..

seriously.. prove it.. dont give the guff it could not have been man and a bow and sand.. you need to actually try to do it yourself .. log the results etc before you make a statement like that..

show 'evidence' not spectulation..

View PostBabe Ruth, on 04 December 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:


I'll reiterate my point--those who doubt the AA theory (and I'm happy to qualify it as a theory) do not offer a persuasive argument to the contrary.  What they offer as proof is mere speculation, with many instances of use of the words "it is possible", "perhaps", etc etc.

Strange.. that sounds like the argument that us skeptics say about you guys.. because none of you can actually prove your claims.. all you have is.. speculations..

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

How about ancient art in Europe, North America and South America that portrays inexplicable humanoids often wearing equipment that we directly relate to space travellers.  What about the art portraying space craft in India and other parts of the world.  How does one explain the Dogon mystery?

It's all there if you care to look.  On the other hand if your big thing is bolting together outlandish explanations for such things to make it fit some outdated paradigm then I guess these things will pass you by.


and again I ask.. where is the art showing the 'gods' moving massive stone blocks to build their temples? after all it would have been a major thing..

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

Pure fiction all of it.

Yes the AA theory is pure fiction.. I am glad your starting to realise it..


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:58 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 04 December 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

you're not going to accept one unproven theory because it has failed in it's attempts to duplicate the feats of the past but you,re happy to acept  theory that is impossible to prove full stop?

Not only have they failed, but it was a miserable failure, they had to bring in modern technology to complete it.

As for your latter comment, i presume you're talking about the AA theory? you say its impossible to prove, well i'm going to have to disagree with you there, because in the ancients mythology and artistic depictions of their deities, they are describing extraterrestrial entities as their creators and masters.

If people look to the stars and find inspiration to mimic stars and constellations in their buildings, then that is direct evidence of ancient people being influenced by extraterrestrial activity.

Extraterrestrial definition: Originating, located, or occurring outside Earth or its atmosphere.

The ancients regarded planets as being real beings and have attributed human  chractertistics to them in their artwork depictions.

They were worshipping extraterrestrial activity, to the ancients those planets and stars must have been very real-life beings with personality. The stars and planets to the ancients were even represented in human form and animal form. Sun goddess, Moon Gods etc. The sun certainly gave life to their crops, it was most certainly glorified as being a life-giver. To the ancients it was a great friend. The sun is an alien, the ancient alien theory is real. Definition of Alien: A creature from outer space: Who is to say that the ancients did not regard the sun as being its own unique creature that brought them life and inspiration?
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As for the idea that ancient aliens were sentient beings who guided humanity in its development? Who is to say that the earth, stars and planets are not sentient beings with feelings?

As for the idea that ancient alien sentient beings that have the typical alien archetype and humanoid type features guided humanity or interfered with humanities development aswell? then i am not convinced about that, however i do have reason to suspect that it might have happened and that there is intelligent human type life outside the earth that are completely superior to humans in a technological and spiritual sense.

I feel that humans are naive if they think they are the only intelligent specie.


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:04 PM

View PostLRW, on 04 December 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

Or maybe they already showed early humans how to use metals, physics etc. Maybe they think humans were not ready for interstellar travel? Certainly given the current state of the human mind in general, they are not ready for insterstellar travel, because humans have a habit of committing atrocity and violence on mother nature.  So why would aliens let such creatures do that to other planets with the use of interstellar travel? humans are not ready for the more advanced technology.

Humans need teaching, giving them too much of a powerful technology would be akin to giving a high tech missile to children. .  ,

So why stack rocks for them? Still doesn't add up. Still no evidence. At all.

View Postbee, on 04 December 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

maybe 'the rocks' ...the pyramids and other giant stone monuments....were actually part of an 'amazing physics necessary to cross interstellar distances'...

a different kind of technology and knowledge..?


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Because we all know how well rocks can transport someone across interstellar distances. Sorry, no. The simplest answer is that they were built buy humans, for humans.

Despite what some on here claim, we have amble evidence of how they monuments were constructed. Repeated denials and shouting "Aliens!" doesn't make it true.

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