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Oera Linda Book and the Great Flood [Part 2]


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#3331    Othar Winis

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 03:21 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 02 April 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:

I keep having problems with authorities socalled suppressing information because it might turn history upside down.

LOL, not because it would turn history upside down, but because it might undermine the current state of affairs.

The Batavian revolution (in NL, late 18th C.) and a more recent revolution (mainly in Germany, thirties) were also (partly) driven by prechristian sentiments.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 03:26 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 02 April 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:

Were those finds hidden for the general public? No.

There is still hope for the OLB.

If it would have surfaced today it would be received differently, but because it got no chance from the start, there is now much prejudice that needs to be overcome first.

That is why what we do here may prove valuable.

Once a serious and honest research team puts an effort, a new (old) world will open.

Edited by gestur, 02 April 2013 - 03:31 PM.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 03:29 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 02 April 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:

So if another copy was found, would that not clear his name? And preferably a copy found in another country?

Yes, it would.
Time will tell.

The subject may first need to become less controversial and more known.

View PostAbramelin, on 02 April 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:

Extremely rich people don't give a flying fk about public opinion because they don't have to.

You serious??

Who has much can lose much.
The top of the pyramid of power is supported by lower layers and, ulimately by the people that are now their slaves (living in the illusion that they are 'free').

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Niemand ist mehr Sklave, als der sich für frei hält, ohne es zu sein.
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None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749–1832)

Edited by gestur, 02 April 2013 - 03:50 PM.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:17 PM

View Postgestur, on 02 April 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

Yes, it would.
Time will tell.

The subject may first need to become less controversial and more known.



You serious??

Who has much can lose much.
The top of the pyramid of power is supported by lower layers and, ulimately by the people that are now their slaves (living in the illusion that they are 'free').

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Niemand ist mehr Sklave, als der sich für frei hält, ohne es zu sein.
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None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749–1832)

If Bill Gates decides to walk stark naked in the middle of New york, i don't think his wealth will diminish (or hardly), and if a newspaper publishes something he really doesn't like, he'll buy the newspaper.

We were talking extremely rich, right?

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The OLB is already well known, but mainly because people keep promoting it as a story about "Atlantis", which is of course nonsense to those who actually read the MS themselves.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:20 PM

View Postgestur, on 02 April 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

LOL, not because it would turn history upside down, but because it might undermine the current state of affairs.

The Batavian revolution (in NL, late 18th C.) and a more recent revolution (mainly in Germany, thirties) were also (partly) driven by prechristian sentiments.

You mean the (Dutch, German and Danish) Frisians - once convinced of the OLB's authenticity - would start a revolution or something?

http://frisianalliance.webs.com/

I remember a website, "Aurich" something, about reuniting all the former Frisian territories.

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Edited by Abramelin, 02 April 2013 - 04:43 PM.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 05:12 PM

If OLB is authentic, it does not only concern the Frisians.
I thought that would be obvious.
You seem to have no clue at all.
Forget it, I said too much already.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 05:25 PM

View Postgestur, on 02 April 2013 - 05:12 PM, said:

If OLB is authentic, it does not only concern the Frisians.
I thought that would be obvious.
You seem to have no clue at all.
Forget it, I said too much already.

It's obvious to you because you and Otharus both think in terms of a conspiracy.

I don't, I think it's balderdash.

If the OLB proves to be true, then yes, history will be turned upside down. I for one would love it, but I won't hold my breath.

Just spill it out, Gestur, tell us what you think, or send me a pm if you don't want to post it here.

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Edited by Abramelin, 02 April 2013 - 05:27 PM.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:37 PM

View Postgestur, on 02 April 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

LOL, not because it would turn history upside down, but because it might undermine the current state of affairs.

The Batavian revolution (in NL, late 18th C.) and a more recent revolution (mainly in Germany, thirties) were also (partly) driven by prechristian sentiments.

We all know about those 'German boy scouts' with their leader with his funny mustache and spastic elbow from the 30's of the past century, but not many will know about the Batavian Revolution:


The term Batavian revolution refers to the political, social and cultural turmoil that marked the end of the Dutch Republic at the end of the 18th century. In the Netherlands, this era is called, together with the Napoleonic era, the "Batavian-French era" (1795–1815) even though the time spanned was only 20 years, of which three were under French occupation.

Just like in other parts of Europe a number of people in the Dutch Republic wanted a more honest government and a more equal society. Society became divided between the Orangists, who supported stadtholder William V, Prince of Orange, and the Patriots who, under influence of the American Revolution and the ideas of the Enlightenment, wanted a more democratic government.

The country found itself in a deep economic crisis, caused by the British declaration of war following Dutch recognition of the American independence. The Fourth Anglo-Dutch War (1780-1784) was devastating to Dutch trade and industry.

In 1786 and 1787 the situation escalated. The Patriots, who wanted to recreate the successes of the Dutch Golden Age, founded "Rifler's societies" ("schuttersgenootschappen"), small groups of men who practised firing rifles.

Between 1783 and 1787 these armed civilians managed to take over several cities and regions. In 1785 the stadtholder William V, Prince of Orange left the west of the country for Nijmegen in the east, as the States of Holland were not willing to send their troops to fight the Patriots. Only after William's brother-in-law, the king of Prussia, sent an army of 26,000 men to the republic, the authority of the stadtholder was restored.

But the restoration was only temporary. The Patriots continued their activities, be it in secret meetings or as political refugees in Northern France. In 1789 the French revolution had started, and the French were determined to spread this revolution over the rest of Europe.

In late December 1794, French and Dutch Patriot troops under general Charles Pichegru marched across the frozen rivers of the Republic. The Patriots knew this was the moment of truth, and they proclaimed the Batavian Republic. William V fled to England where he proclaimed that all Dutch colonies were to fall under British rule as they had declared war on the Batavian Republic. A number of these colonies never returned to Dutch rule such as Sri Lanka and South Africa.

Several coups followed in 1798, 1801 and 1805 which brought different groups of Patriots to power. The last ruler of the Batavian Republic was Rutger Jan Schimmelpenninck.

The Batavian revolution ended in 1806 when the Kingdom of Holland was founded with Napoleon's brother, Louis Napoleon as King.


http://en.wikipedia....vian_revolution



I don't see any "pre-christian sentiment"  here.

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Edited by Abramelin, 02 April 2013 - 08:55 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:38 AM

....From the Brut .........    Tha wepmen weren iwaxen..........................The men were numerous

    Tha wimen wel ithowene...............................The women well thriving

    and tha heore nutene....................................and the cattle abundant....................nutene = abundant so maybe a nuts connection ??


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:01 AM

View PostNO-ID-EA, on 03 April 2013 - 10:38 AM, said:

....From the Brut ......... Tha wepmen weren iwaxen..........................The men were numerous

Tha wimen wel ithowene...............................The women well thriving

and tha heore nutene....................................and the cattle abundant....................nutene = abundant so maybe a nuts connection ??

Interesting, because that word is obviously connected to 'enough' - enoch but yes, it has a t change.

In an mmm bop it's gone...

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:03 AM

View PostNO-ID-EA, on 03 April 2013 - 10:38 AM, said:

....From the Brut ......... Tha wepmen weren iwaxen..........................The men were numerous

Tha wimen wel ithowene...............................The women well thriving

and tha heore nutene....................................and the cattle abundant....................nutene = abundant so maybe a nuts connection ??

Can you give the source/paragraphs? I think you made some typos.

Or is this not from the OLB??

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Edited by Abramelin, 03 April 2013 - 11:04 AM.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:04 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 02 April 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

It's obvious to you because you and Otharus both think in terms of a conspiracy.

I don't, I think it's balderdash.

If the OLB proves to be true, then yes, history will be turned upside down. I for one would love it, but I won't hold my breath.

Just spill it out, Gestur, tell us what you think, or send me a pm if you don't want to post it here.

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Mario Dantas said this:

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I really am ridiculously scared to talk about this. I find that the grave accusations made here, reflect all the psychological weight of the subject, so no need to say more.


Food for thought.

In an mmm bop it's gone...

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:06 AM

View PostThe Puzzler, on 03 April 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

Mario Dantas said this: [/color]

Food for thought.

Well, I am still here, and you know what I have been called....

Not scared at all.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:14 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 03 April 2013 - 11:03 AM, said:

Can you give the source/paragraphs? I think you made some typos.

Or is this not from the OLB??

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No not OLB its from Layamons Brut , or Chronicles of Britain .......on google books , but it has an anglo-saxon , early english , and a modern translation  , so you get 3 different spellings/meaning of each word , but where i typed th , the orig shows a thorn (Close to p)and i dont have a typeface with accents.

Edited by NO-ID-EA, 03 April 2013 - 11:18 AM.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:21 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 03 April 2013 - 11:06 AM, said:

Well, I am still here, and you know what I have been called....

Not scared at all.
I have my moments - but I'm still here because I believe that even if half of it is true it deserves to be acknowledged.

In an mmm bop it's gone...




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