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The Voronezh Incident - Russia 1989


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#16    zoser

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:59 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 20 November 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

Ummm... I have a bridge to sell...
Cmon, zoser, find something really worth to dig in...

Check out TT.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:21 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 November 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

Anything is possible in this vast universe.  Examine the testimonies and report back; whether one gives it personal credibility is irrelevant.  One has to start with the eye witnesses.
I always thought that eye-witness testimony was the least reliable form of evidence.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:22 PM

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Hmmm... What about T-90?

T-90 is just a modified T-72.  It's nothing really groundbreaking.  Russia needs to design a next gen tank from the ground up.

Edited by Cpl599, 20 November 2012 - 09:23 PM.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:21 PM

View PostCpl599, on 20 November 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

T-90 is just a modified T-72.  It's nothing really groundbreaking.  Russia needs to design a next gen tank from the ground up.
T-95... Don't discard Russkies, they always have something up their sleeves <_<

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:35 PM

T-95 was cancelled


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:30 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 November 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Were there really any 'high-tech' factories in Russia at that time?  Indeed are there any today?  

Are you serious? Do you think Borat is a real documentary on Kazakhstan or something?


LINK - Timeline of Russian inventions and technology records


That is an embarrassing comment on your behalf there. Good God man. You are consistant, I'll give you that much.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:31 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 November 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

All I can suggest is that you research the subject more widely.  


I beg your pardon.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:33 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 November 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

Anything is possible in this vast universe.  Examine the testimonies and report back; whether one gives it personal credibility is irrelevant.  One has to start with the eye witnesses.


Great anything is possible. Can you post my wife's middle name within 10 minutes of me posting this to prove that anything is possible. That would be quite a feat, but quite simple for someone whom nothing is impossible for.

Tell ya what. I'll give you 15 minutes to prove to me that "anyTHING is possible" Post my wife's middle name, I'll be watching the clock.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:36 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 20 November 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

You call that

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tractor?!!!
:w00t:

Compared to this it's a rust lawn mower:

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The actual comparison being that one is a photograph of an aircraft that actually exists, the other one is artwork that someone made up with imagination.


That's quite a notable difference I would say. But I bet some put blinkers on and  convince themselves otherwise :w00t:


ETA 12 minutes to proof that nothing is impossible!

Edited by psyche101, 20 November 2012 - 11:37 PM.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:42 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 20 November 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

I always thought that eye-witness testimony was the least reliable form of evidence.

Indeed it is. Not sure why that fact is deliberately and constantly ignored, and given more importance and credence than verified scientific evidence by some.

It is responsible for 75% of convictions that have been overturned by DNA evidence. Notoriously unreliable.


LINK - The Innocence Project.

The only way to ignore this is to deliberately refuse that the facts exist, and stick one's head in the sand.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:45 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 20 November 2012 - 11:33 PM, said:

Tell ya what. I'll give you 15 minutes to prove to me that "anyTHING is possible" Post my wife's middle name, I'll be watching the clock.
I'm getting a strong sense that is has some connection to the letter "H"....

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:04 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 20 November 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

I'm getting a strong sense that is has some connection to the letter "H"....


Hrrmzz no, D would be closer........... :P

Looks like Zoser is not going to prove to me that anything is possible, I am let down.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:06 PM

They are among us!!
Video "In the skies over Voronezh"


Edited by Atentutankh-pasheri, 21 November 2012 - 03:07 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:25 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 20 November 2012 - 11:30 PM, said:

Are you serious? Do you think Borat is a real documentary on Kazakhstan or something?


LINK - Timeline of Russian inventions and technology records


That is an embarrassing comment on your behalf there. Good God man. You are consistant, I'll give you that much.

Take the comment in context; compare to the technology demonstrated to us by how these things fly for example makes mankind look as though it is has just emerged from the stone age; Russia, US or otherwise.  It's not political it's just a fact.

If you think otherwise then how come this superbly advanced race of ours has never got further than our local moon?  Think about it before you worship the technological wonders of our time.

Edited by zoser, 21 November 2012 - 05:31 PM.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:28 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 20 November 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

The actual comparison being that one is a photograph of an aircraft that actually exists, the other one is artwork that someone made up with imagination.


That's quite a notable difference I would say. But I bet some put blinkers on and  convince themselves otherwise :w00t:


ETA 12 minutes to proof that nothing is impossible!

That's what they look like; as people that have seen them at distance or close up.  You need to read some testimonies dear chap.

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