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#46    Idano

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:53 PM

View Postdeeisin, on 05 October 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

I am new to your site and came upon it accidently when looking for some information on demonic hauntings. A young man came to this site last month looking for help, so in order to read all of his post, I signed up. Whether or not a true story, most of what was being told led to a demonic haunting...a few people got on there to give him some advice, but then a choir of non believers, well may have kidded him into not sticking around for some real advice.
Whether you believe or not, it's out there and unfortunately in your face real. There is a calling out there for ghost hunters, but when it turns demonic, very bad things happen to the hunters and clients.
You do have the right to believe in what you want. But it would be more stupid not to believe in demonic attacks when they have really come to light. I have people who work with me who don't believe in God, but when things turn bad in 3's they all of a sudden believe in some higher power. Chaplains and some soldiers have said "there is no such things as atheists in foxholes." It is pretty much the same thing in ghost hunting.
If someone comes online and says something bad is happening to them...are you seriously going to sit there and insult them because it's something you don't believe them? Just because you don't believe doesn't mean it's not true...think about if you read something in the paper about something bad that happened to that family and police don't know what happened, and a witness heard some things that the person had written about. It could even happen to you, and the sad part you made it known you're a nonbeliever, so now they think your mocking...well to be very honest with you....most of the demon attacks occur to people who don't believe, it makes it easier for them to take over, So good luck to ya, and hope it's not me you need to call when you need help.

Some threads get testy sometimes, but that's the price of passion. We are not all screamers or bullies so hang with us for awhile.  Oh and BTW Welcome!!

Edited by Idano, 05 October 2012 - 06:54 PM.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:57 PM

Threads merged

deeisin please avoid posting the same thing in more than one forum thread, thank you.


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Posted 05 October 2012 - 07:03 PM

View Postlizzieboo, on 12 September 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

That is a really creepy event. I would probably ask a local minister, priest, rabbi, or other religious authority to bless the house. Alternatively, she can bless the house herself by using sage, cedar, or even lavender incense. Light it, say a prayer asking for protection from evil and harm, and walk through the house, waving the incense smoke in each room and repeating prayers.

Good luck to your girlfriend's parents.

A little off subject... will this work with an atheist ghost?...is that an oxymoron?  Can you have an athiest ghost? Good luck with the weird stuff, sorry no advise.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 07:10 PM

View Postdeeisin, on 05 October 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

I'm rather shocked at some of the replies given to him by some of you. I accidently came upon this while looking for some info. If you are not a believer then I assume you came to this site to ridicule or just plain aggrivate people who do need help. I am hoping that the writer of this has asked for the churches help. If you haven't I'm requesting that you do before it decides to attach himself to you and come after your family. If you are a person with faith, bring that faith with you. I'm sorry you have to go through so much for a simple answer. I'm also hoping that you see my post and don't take my advice lightly. Some of the things you wrote here if true can eventually cause severe harm to you and the girl you care for and her family. They are not safe and you are known to this entity and I'm sure if the issue has not been resolved has already followed you home.
For all of you non believers, this is a serious issue and you want to joke. If this happened to you, I hope you'd have enough gonads to come online and ask for help. If this is a person who has written a story, maybe this post will help someone who does have a problem. Demonic issues usually occur in 3's...Christ died around 3 pm...mocking of the trinity is how it is described...most occurrances will happen between 0300-0330 although it could occur at anytime. Watch for patterns of 3. The following may also occur: irrational anger, nightmares, growling, physical harm, emotional distress loss of sleep, and there are a few other things. Please talk to a church. You do need help!
Hope my post will help! Good luck and come back and let me know how it works out for you.


If we are not " believers "???...Uhm, no, do you know how many of these things can and are explained by natural, man made, or medical answers?....We are here to help people, and to give them answers, not faith driven " belief ".



Lets see some cases that asked for the Church's help shall we?...And how those " believers " ended up.



CRUCIFIX-STUFFING MARIO GARCIA, from Pawtucket, Rhode Island, punctured his 47-year-old mother-in-law’s esophagus, when he jammed two 8in (20cm) steel crucifixes down her throat during an exorcism on 31 March 1996. Garcia’s wife, father-in-law, brother-in-law and three children under 10 had gathered round and prayed during the exorcism, when Garcia burned leaves and addressed the demons only he could see. Garcia, 31, was screaming "The devil is inside her!" when police arrived to find the woman on the front porch, blood pouring from her mouth. The family told police that Garcia first performed an exorcism on the woman’s son, depressed about his mother who had been acting strangely. However, the devil flew out of the son and into the mother. The woman was in critical condition, but the absence of subsequent reports suggests she survived. Pawtucket (RI) Times, [AP] 3 April 1996.

PAUL JAMES MARTIN, a 25-year-old Maori from Auckland, forced a crucifix and a piece of wood up the nose of his girlfriend, Carolyn Shea, with such force that it entered her brain. She was critically ill, but was expected to survive. The attack took place in December 1997 after Shea called in a Catholic priest to perform an exorcism. Martin was supported during his trial by the Maori victim and several Maori Christian priests who said they believed he had been under the influence of an evil spirit or makutu. The New Zealand High Court made legal history by accepting this reasoning and let Martin off with a two-year suspended sentence. [AFP] D.Telegraph, 24 Mar 1998.



SUFFER THE CHILDREN A PARTICULARLY BIZARRE case of death-by-exorcism unfolded in New Zealand in May 1994. On 26 November that year, Janice and Lindsay Gibson were found not guilty of murder, being victims of folie a deux. Janice, 33, joined the fundamentalist Apostolic Church in the small North Island town of Inglewood in 1993. She believed she had been cured of a bad back at a faith healing session and began attending regularly. As 1994 opened, the couple were caught up in a vortex of powerful, hyper-manic energy. On 16 May, Lindsay stayed home from work because his wife told him the demons would get him. By now she believed she was God and had convinced her husband of this too. He ceased calling her Janice and referred to her as "God". The next day, Janice slapped her two-year-old daughter Emily on the face for five or 10 minutes to beat the devil out of her. Her eldest daughter, Darlene, 17, was ordered to hold the toddler down while the drubbing continued. Darlene left the house in tears to stay with a friend.

Later that day, a workmate of Lindsay’s, Roger Laurenson, visited the house to check on Lindsay. Janice ordered him to kneel before her and screamed: "I can feel Jesus in the tips of these fingers!" Lindsay appeared, chanting "Bah bah bah", lifted Laurenson’s shirt, squeezed his stomach and told him to vomit because he was possessed. Janice, meanwhile, slapped his face. Laurenson hastened to his boss, Thomas Valentine, to describe the mad scene. Valentine then paid a visit and found Lindsay with his head in a bucket, vomiting. "This is what happens when you sin!" yelled Janice.

Valentine contacted the police and that night the Gibson house was visited by a social worker, a doctor, a mental health professional and three policemen. They were met by a hissing Janice, who told the chief police officer that he was possessed. The mental health professional, David Bruce, urged the doctor to provide a medical certificate allowing Janice to be detained. The doctor refused, saying she was simply a religious fanatic. After confiscating a number of guns, the team departed.

The next day, the couple were convinced they were surrounded by demons. They smashed crockery, burned furniture and threw possessions out of the house. The remaining three children, including son Dane, 12, lent a hand. Lindsay took two "evil" pet mice outside, ripped off their heads and tails and buried the remains in separate holes in the lawn. A meal was cooked and eaten, but then Janice ordered her family to vomit up the food and "piss their pants". She stripped Dane and expelled him from the house, where he stood shivering in the darkness. All he had to wear was a jumper which had been thrown from the house earlier.

Janice now decided he was the devil incarnate and ordered Lindsay to hold him down while she exorcised him. This was done with such force that the boy’s wrist was broken. Janice took a broken concrete block and hit her son repeatedly on the head as he screamed for help, pleading that he believed. The parents thought that if they slowly drew Dane’s body back into the house the devil would go and he would be resurrected as a "beautiful person". Alarmed by the screams at the Gibson house, neighbours called the police, who found a naked Lindsay in the back yard still holding down the boy, who was barely alive. Lindsay would not lift his head to look at his wife, believing it was a blasphemy to look at "God". The other two children, aged five and two, lay unharmed on a sofa inside the house. When ambulancemen arrived, Janice yelled: "He’s already dead. We killed him, you stupid man, like the first Jesus". [R] 26 Nov 1994.



Pentecostal ministers in San Francisco pummeled a woman to death in 1995, as they tried to drive out her demons.


In 1997, a Korean Christian woman was stomped to death in Glendale, Calif., and in the Bronx section of New York City, a 5-year-old girl died after being forced to swallow a mixture containing ammonia and vinegar and having her mouth taped shut.


In 1998, a 17-year-old girl in Sayville, N.Y., was suffocated by her mother with a plastic bag, in an effort to destroy a demon inside her.


In 2001, a 37-year old woman, Joanna Lee, was strangled to death in an exorcism by a Korean church minister working in New Zealand. The minister, Luke Lee, was found guilty of manslaughter.




That is a VERY short list......




Yes, go with the " believers " and ignore facts.....Please do.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 07:21 PM

I'm not saying anything about posession...but would you have a solution for him? He stated his facts, no one said anything about possession, house blessings, prayers, just advice...which fact did I ignore? I gave things to look for (demonic signs) I did not say anything about exorcisms or posession. Read again with clarity!

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 07:26 PM

View Postdeeisin, on 05 October 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

I'm not saying they all end up living happily ever after...but would you have a solution for him? He stated his facts, no one said anything about possession, house blessings, prayers, just advice...which fact did I ignore? I gave things to look for (demonic signs) I did not say anything about exotcisms. Read again with clarity...ignored I did not!

Not yet I have not. I have plenty though, and none of them are " blind faith " solutions.

If the OP comes back ( does not look like it ) I may reply with the same advice I have given to so many every time this topic comes up.

The reason I answered your post was in the red. " Call on the Church "....I replied showing what can happen ( factual ) if you call up on the Church, and how going with blind faith alone will not solve your issue.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 07:30 PM

View PostAlanMurphy, on 12 September 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

Hi all,

This is my first post on this forum, And here's what is the latest of strange occurrences that has happened in my girlfriends house.

Last night around between 3 am and 3.15 am my girlfriends mother and father were in bed when the mother was woken by a hand trying to grab her out
of the bed, When she woke she saw this black figure standing at her bed, It had red eyes and its head was shaped like a dogs head, Being used to strange things happening in her house she quickly tried to blank it out and go back to sleep whilst saying her prayers when she felt the hand again trying to grab her out of the bed, This is when she jumped across to her husband who woke up. The strange thing is, while the mother was seeing this figure and trying to go back asleep the father was dreaming he was fighting with this sort of dog on the bed and in his dream the mother tried to help and screamed "Go Away!" and that's when he woke up to find the mother in terror, The mother also reported a fog in the room.

This sounds possibly demonic to me but i need other opinions, This is only 1 story out of countless others that happened in the house, There was a death in the house before they occupied it, A woman got left home from the local public house by her husband because she a had a bit too much to drink and her husband went back out, While she was up in the bathroom she came out and fell down the stairs and broke her neck and died, I dont know if this has anything to do with the haunting,

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Alan.


Per request above, I am giving my first " gut " feeling on this. ( without linking how dreams work, and how sounds effect dreams, etc. )

The woman was dreaming, possibly even having near sleep paralysis. During her dream ( a long dream to you and I may only be seconds in real time ), she talked, yelled, etc. about a dogs head.....

When this happened the husband ( still sleeping ) heard this and his dream became fighting a dog on the bed, from the audio being recieved by the woman.

I know everyone has woken up to sounds that made them have weird dreams and say " thats what that was ".

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:11 PM

View PostSakari, on 05 October 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

If we are not " believers "???...Uhm, no, do you know how many of these things can and are explained by natural, man made, or medical answers?....We are here to help people, and to give them answers, not faith driven " belief ".

Lets see some cases that asked for the Church's help shall we?...And how those " believers " ended up.


Are you an Idiot?  You arepicking out rare cases of sick people and using this to say that faith driven procedures for demonic situations are wrong?  Let's see I can pick out a bunch of sick demented Dr.s who did crazy things to their patient's  and list them and then claim that the medical field is a joke and nobody should seek the help of a doctor?  OK!  So you told a few stories?  What does any of that have to do with these people seeking advice on how to handle demonic activity? You obviously don't believe in demons and thats simply your opinion, but you know nothing!  your simply assuming that since you haven't experienced it that its not real.  Stop assuming and advising on things you no nothing about!!  Please!!


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:33 PM

View PostSakari, on 20 September 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

Ahhhhh...Th Jihn again...

Someone just shared with me how to summon one, and it does not work.


Claiming it is one certain religions demon cracks me up. No one can even prove what religion is the right one ( if any ), and people are killing each other over a couple of them, and now we can say what spirit it is?

You do not have a demon, or a ghost....

Hey Everyone!  Its the expert again!   Redneck in training?  lol I think you have graduated sir! lol  Quit acting like you know everything?  Have you visited their house? no!  So again you know nothing!!!


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:36 PM

View PostViperWolf, on 12 October 2012 - 10:11 PM, said:

Are you an Idiot?  You arepicking out rare cases of sick people and using this to say that faith driven procedures for demonic situations are wrong?  Let's see I can pick out a bunch of sick demented Dr.s who did crazy things to their patient's  and list them and then claim that the medical field is a joke and nobody should seek the help of a doctor?  OK!  So you told a few stories?  What does any of that have to do with these people seeking advice on how to handle demonic activity? You obviously don't believe in demons and thats simply your opinion, but you know nothing!  your simply assuming that since you haven't experienced it that its not real.  Stop assuming and advising on things you no nothing about!!  Please!!


If you had read past that, you would see my advice.

Assuming and advising would be stating belief as fact ( burn sage, call a priest ), so I am 100% sure I am not assuming.

Because I do not " believe " in Demons, I know nothing ????? .....Try me.

Thank you for showing everyone how some " believers " can make the rest look bad by posting garbage, and name calling. If you can not have a discussion, or a descent, mature debate about something, do not bother posting. It really only looks bad on you.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:39 PM

View PostViperWolf, on 12 October 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Hey Everyone!  Its the expert again!   Redneck in training?  lol I think you have graduated sir! lol  Quit acting like you know everything?  Have you visited their house? no!  So again you know nothing!!!

Again, you are showing your level of maturity, I will take in consideration that you did not read my reply above yours, so I will let that slide.

Did I say I new everything?
Why do I need to visit their house?....I used to build houses, I know what houses look like, and are made with.

I know nothing?,,,,,,Again, try me.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:40 PM

Haven't read everything into it but I would love to be a part of any help to ease your fears.....

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:59 PM

View PostViperWolf, on 12 October 2012 - 10:11 PM, said:

Let's see I can pick out a bunch of sick demented Dr.s who did crazy things to their patient's  and list them and then claim that the medical field is a joke and nobody should seek the help of a doctor?  


Do it, show me...Show me " a bunch " of Doctors you mention. Then, what I will do ( so you are prepared for this debate ) is ask you for every case, verifiable. I will then ask you for the total number of Doctors world wide, and we shall get a " percentage " of how many were " bad "....

I will then do the same for " exorcists "......

Or, I could avoid all of that by just saying this :


" Medical Issues ", and the " medical Field " are a proven fact, and a proven thing that has helped man kind. I could list numerous Vaccines, and surgeries that save lives every day.


" possessions / demons / religion "......Can you do the same?


Actually, this is off topic, and we should get back on topic.....The OP has not replied in over 2 weeks though.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 10:25 AM

Please don't make the discussion personal. Calling others "idiots" or demanding that people post proof for stating a personal experience isn't likely to go anywhere constructive.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 01:01 AM

firstly i don't judge true or not but i want to ask a few questions. if it's ok with u?

it happen all the time at that hour?

it always happen when they are sleeping or any other time?

is there anything else like footsteps, other sounds, pulling off blanket anything? doesn't matter what time?

fog what color?

have they asked anyone from their religion - a pious person or whatever your religion minister & etc to visit. bless or cleanse the house before?

if done so, what happen after that or what they said?

i done discredit no such thing or got such thing until i got the reply above.





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