Protesters 'willing to risk jail' to urge

[louie]

Protesters 'willing to risk jail' to urge Bush, Cheney indictment

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Anti-war protesters plan to gather outside the Department of Justice next week to urge Attorney General Michael Mukasey to indict President Bush and Vice President Cheney on war crimes charges.

The protesters, being organized by The National Campaign for Nonviolent Resistance say they are willing to risk going to jail to urge Bush and Cheney's indictment. The campaign is gathering signatures More..for a petition to urge Mukasey to meet with them.

The group has worked closely with Code Pink, Iraq Veterans Against the War and others to protest US involvement in Iraq and urge President Bush's impeachment at myriad demonstrations over the last several years.

The protest at the Justice Department is scheduled for Monday at noon at the department's headquarters in downtown Washington

copy of the group's petition is reprinted below.

I am writing on behalf of the National Campaign for Nonviolent Resistance (NCNR), concerned citizens who tried to prevent the illegal invasion of Iraq. NCNR members would like to meet with you to discuss the indictment of George W. Bush and Richard Cheney for crimes including the fraudulent case for war, warrantless spying, torture, and denial of due process to prisoners.

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson, appointed by President Truman to be the Chief Prosecutor at the Nuremberg Tribunals following World War II, stated, "let me make clear that while this law is first applied against German aggressors, the law includes, and if it is to serve a useful purpose it must condemn aggression by any other nations, including those which sit here now in judgment."

There is a well-established law in our jurisprudence which places an affirmative duty on all of us to expose any treasonous or criminal act which comes to our attention. Failure to do so is defined as "misprision." As good citizens, we are writing to you out of duty, knowing that if felonies have been committed we are to inform a magistrate. Silently to observe the commission of a felony, without endeavoring to apprehend the offender, is a misprision.

Please schedule a meeting with NCNR at your earliest convenience

[__Kratos__]

Protesters 'willing to risk jail' to urge Bush, Cheney indictment

And why can't they protest legally like everybody else? Do they think they are above the law just because they have an opinion? Are they any better then Bush or Cheney who think they are also above the law and think they can do anything they want?

[AzTide]

Won't happen if one president ever allowed another ex president to be prosecuted or indicted or sentenced the same would happen to him by the next incoming president.

The presidents will always watch each others backs.

[MARAB0D]

Won't happen if one president ever allowed another ex president to be prosecuted or indicted or sentenced the same would happen to him by the next incoming president.

The presidents will always watch each others backs.

Hahaha - spot on! If this happens, then the Americans would face a problem to find the next idiot for this position!

[acidhead]

http://www.iraqpledge.org/ --National Campaign for Nonviolent Resistance Formerly known as the Iraq Pledge of Resistance

A nationwide network of individuals and organizations committed to ending the war in Iraq, utilizing the nonviolent practices and disciplines of Gandhi and King through nonviolent resistance

Join us

November 10, 2008

Department of Justice

Washington, DC

12:00 Noon

Call for the Indictment of Bush and Cheney for War Crimes

We are calling for a meeting with Attorney General Mukasey. If we are denied some of us will be risking arrest.

For more information or to join this action, contact: Max mobuszewski@verizon.net or Joy at jsfirst@tds.net

We have mailed a letter to Attorney General Mukasey outlining the war crimes and murder that Bush and Cheney should be tried for. We have also requested a meeting and been rebuffed. We will be delivering our letter again and demanding a meeting on Nov. 10th.

Our final logistical/planning meeting with be on Nov. 9th at 5:00 PM at Code Pink House 712 5th Street NE. All who maybe risking arrest are expected to attend.

Photos from September 2008 event- silent protesters were arrested , tried and found NOT-Guilty by jury.

Many more photos available at National Campaign for Nonviolent Resistance website linked above.

[stevewinn]

Photos from September 2008 event- silent protesters were arrested , tried and found NOT-Guilty by jury.

Many more photos available at National Campaign for Nonviolent Resistance website linked above.

the Photos above prove the organisers cant make their point. getting all dressed up throwing red dye over themselves then laying down on the ground. and they want people to take them serious, a little decorum wouldn't go a miss. someone should tell them they've left school and to grow up.

[MasterPo]

Protesters 'willing to risk jail' to urge Bush, Cheney indictment

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Anti-war protesters plan to gather outside the Department of Justice next week to urge Attorney General Michael Mukasey to indict President Bush and Vice President Cheney on war crimes charges.

Just think what would happen if an international body actually did post warrants for an American President.

Imagine the President landing in say Germany on a typical political trip.

He gets off Air Force 1 and is greeted by some representative of the German gov and a large military honor guard.

The german rep tells the President that while he's happy he came there are international warrants for his arrest and Germany must compile.

So immediately that "honor guard" surround the President and put him in handcuffs.

Do you think the secret service and other U.S. agents there will just stand still?

Can you imagine the police and military forces of another nation restraining the President's security guards while the President himself is lead away in cuffs?

Can you invision the President being finger printed and photographsed in foreign police station??

What do you think the VP and military will do? Just let the President sit in a foreign jail cell??

Probably would have 5,000 Marines parachuting in by that night!!

[supercar]

I am writing on behalf of the National Campaign for Nonviolent Resistance (NCNR), concerned citizens who tried to prevent the illegal invasion of Iraq.

What about the illegal attacks of 9/11?

What about the illegal attacks on civilians in Iraq by Muslim insurgents and militias?

The following list is just a few of the war crimes committed by the insurgents and militias in Iraq which no one ever mentions. All these attacks were carried out by insurgents and militias,not American troops:

Attacks in 2003

August 7 - A truck bomb outside the Jordanian embassy in Baghdad kills sixteen Muslims and injures more than fifty.

August 29 - Car bomb kills at least eight-three Muslims at the Imam Ali mosque in Najaf, including Shi`a Muslim leader Ayatollah Muhammad Baqir al-Hakim.

October 27 - A truck bomb explodes outside the headquarters of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in Baghdad, killing twelve Muslims. Bombs at three police stations in the city kill at least twenty-three more.

Attacks in 2004

January 18 - Suicide car bomber kills at least twenty-five Muslims, mostly Iraqi civilians, at entrance to the main U.S. headquarters in Baghdad.

February 10- Suicide car bomb explodes in a police station in al-Iskandariyya south of Baghdad, killing fifty-three Muslims.

February 11 - Suicide car bomb explodes outside an Iraqi army recruitment center in Baghdad, killing up to forty-seven Muslims and wounding fifty.

March 2 - More than 181 Muslims are killed and 573 are wounded when multiple blasts erupt in Baghdad and Karbala while Shi`a pilgrims are observing `Ashura’, the holiest day of the Shi`a calendar.

April 20 - Insurgents fire twelve mortar rounds into Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad. According to U.S. military officials, the attacks kill twenty-two Muslim prisoners and wound ninety-two.

April 21 - Car bombs outside three Iraqi police stations and a police academy in Basra kill sixty-eight Muslims, including sixteen children, and wound 200. Nine of the sixty-eight victims were police.

April 24 - Fourteen Iraqi Muslims are killed when insurgents fire mortars and rockets into a crowded market in Baghdad’s Sadr City.

April 24 - A roadside bomb in al-Iskandariyya kills fourteen Muslims traveling to Baghdad on a bus.

June 17 - A car bomb kills thirty-five Muslims and wounds more than 100 outside an army recruiting station in Baghdad.

June 25 - A wave of attacks by insurgents in six cities kills more than 100 Muslims and wounds more than 300. In Mosul, sixty-two Muslims die and 220 are injured from car bombs at the police academy, two police stations and a hospital, although it is not clear how many of the victims were civilians.

July 14 - A suicide car bomber blows himself up at the gates of the U.S.-fortified Green Zone, killing at least ten Iraqi Muslims and injuring dozens.

July 28 - A suicide car bomb kills sixty-eight Muslims and wounds fifty-six in Ba`quba intended for men lined up outside a police recruiting center.

August 1 - Coordinated car bomb attacks on five churches, four in Baghdad and one in Mosul, kill eleven Muslims and wound more than forty.

August 26 - A mortar attack on a mosque in Kufa kills twenty-seven Muslims and wounds sixty-three.

August 27 - Unidentified gunmen fire into a group walking on the main road from Kufa to Najaf, killing fifteen Muslims.

September 14 - A car bomb near a police station in Baghdad kills at least forty-seven Muslims and wounds 114 in a nearby market. Recruits were lining up out the station to sign up for the police.

September 30 - Insurgents detonate three car bombs in Baghdad’s Hay al-‘Amel neighborhood as U.S. soldiers hand out candy for the opening of a renovated water pumping station, killing forty-one Muslims, thirty-four of them children.

October 10 - A suicide car bomb near the Oil Ministry in Baghdad killed an estimated ten Muslims.

October 15 - A suicide bomber in a car explodes near a police station in Baghdad, killing ten Muslims, including a family of four.

October 23 - Insurgents capture and execute forty-six Muslims from the Iraqi armed forces and three drivers taking them home for the weekend on leave.

October 31 - A rocket slams into a hotel in Tikrit, killing fifteen Muslims and wounding eight.

November 11 - A car bomb explodes just after a U.S. patrol passes, killing seventeen Iraqi Muslims and wounding thirty.

December 3 - A car bomb kills at least fourteen Muslims outside a Shi`a mosque in Baghdad and heavily damages the mosque.

December 16 - An explosion outside a Shi`a shrine in Karbala kills ten Muslims and wounds forty-one, including Grand Ayatollah `Ali al-Sistani’s representative in the holy city.

December 19 - A suicide car bomb in Najaf, 300 yards from the Imam Ali shrine kills and wounds more than 120 Muslims. On the same day, a car bomb explodes at Karbala’s bus station, killing fourteen Muslims and injuring at least forty.

December 27 - A suicide car bomber kills thirteen Muslims outside the offices of SCIRI, one of the main Shi`a Muslim political parties, in Baghdad.

December 28 - Twenty-eight Muslims are killed in an explosion that flattens several houses in Baghdad, apparently when a police unit was lured into a trap laid by exremists.

Attacks in 2005 (through mid-September)

January 19 - A suicide car bomb explodes near a police station in Baghdad’s Karrada neighborhood, killing an estimated eleven Muslims.

January 21 - A suicide car bomb blows up outside a Shi`a mosque in Baghdad killing fourteen Muslims and wounding forty

January 30 - Insurgents execute at least nine suicide bombings on Iraq’s election day, killing at least thirty-five Muslims.

Edited November 9, 2008 by supercar

[AROCES]

War crime against who???

Where are the victims family?

[Aztec Warrior]

First of all, a lesson in civics seems to be necessary for those protesting Liberal dolts. Only a sitting President can be impeached. So, that leaves about 45 days left and then there must be a trial in the House of Reps. If the votes for impeachment are sufficient, then it goes to the Senate for a vote. Can't happen in this short amount of time. Even if it did, all it would amount to is removal from office.

Secondly, some of you don't realize that the AG works for the President and war crimes are not part of his jurisdiction. That is handled by an international court located in the Hague. Finally, no AG would ever file anything against a President, sitting or retired.

So, let's put a bunch of rabid, unemployed, Liberal protesters in jail.

[acidhead]

Just think what would happen if an international body actually did post warrants for an American President.

Imagine the President landing in say Germany on a typical political trip.

He gets off Air Force 1 and is greeted by some representative of the German gov and a large military honor guard.

The german rep tells the President that while he's happy he came there are international warrants for his arrest and Germany must compile.

So immediately that "honor guard" surround the President and put him in handcuffs.

Do you think the secret service and other U.S. agents there will just stand still?

Can you imagine the police and military forces of another nation restraining the President's security guards while the President himself is lead away in cuffs?

Can you invision the President being finger printed and photographsed in foreign police station??

What do you think the VP and military will do? Just let the President sit in a foreign jail cell??

Probably would have 5,000 Marines parachuting in by that night!!

It would be awesome if Dubya was arrested, printed and mug shotted and then it was posted on Killtown dot com

that would be the best!

[supercar]

I am writing on behalf of the National Campaign for Nonviolent Resistance (NCNR), concerned citizens who tried to prevent the illegal invasion of Iraq

Congress authorized the Iraq war. Are you going to seek arrests for all 535 members of Congress?

Friday, October 11, 2002

WASHINGTON — Congress has given President Bush the authority to use military force against Iraq in a major policy victory for the White House. The Senate approved the measure 77-23 early Friday morning at the end of a rocky week-long debate. The House voted for the resolution Thursday afternoon, 296-133. Because the Democratic-led Senate approved the House version of the measure without changing a word, it now goes directly to Bush for his signature. The resolution gives Bush the power to use American military force to enforce existing United Nations Security Council mandates that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein dispose of his weapons of mass destruction. It encourages Bush to seek U.N. cooperation in such a campaign, but does not require it. Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., the most outspoken Senate foe of the resolution, accused Congress of "handing the president unchecked authority." Bush spoke after the House had passed the bill. "The House of Representatives has spoken clearly to the world and to the United Nations Security Council: The gathering threat of Iraq must be confronted fully and finally," the president said. The president has repeatedly stressed, however, that no final decision on whether to launch a military strike against Iraq has been made. While Bush hailed the strong House showing, a majority of House Democrats voted against the resolution -- even though their leader, Dick Gephardt of Missouri, was one of its authors. "The issue is how to best protect America. And I believe this resolution does that," Gephardt said. The Senate approval of the resolution came after it voted 75-25 to end delaying tactics. It also voted down a series of efforts to weaken or block the resolution, as did the House. The administration got a big boost Thursday morning when Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle suddenly announced he was putting aside his misgivings to support the president. "I believe it is important for America to speak with one voice," said Daschle, D-S.D. "It is neither a Democratic resolution nor a Republican resolution. It is now a statement of American resolve and values."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,65395,00.html

[supercar]

I am writing on behalf of the National Campaign for Nonviolent Resistance (NCNR), concerned citizens who tried to prevent the illegal invasion of Iraq

There were at least 21 countries besides the United States participating in the occupation of Iraq. Are you going to seek arrests for the leaders of all countries that participated in the occupation of Iraq?

Here is the list of countries that participated in the occupation of Iraq:

Albania

Armenia

Australia

Azerbaijan

Bosnia-Herzegovina

Bulgaria

Czech Republic

Denmark

El Salvador

Estonia

Georgia

Kazakhstan

Latvia

Lithuania

Macedonia

Moldova

Mongolia

Poland

Romania

South Korea

United Kingdom

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops...t_coalition.htm

Edited November 10, 2008 by supercar

[Splodgenessabounds]

Congress authorized the Iraq war. Are you going to seek arrests for all 535 members of Congress?

Friday, October 11, 2002

WASHINGTON — Congress has given President Bush the authority to use military force against Iraq in a major policy victory for the White House. The Senate approved the measure 77-23 early Friday morning at the end of a rocky week-long debate. The House voted for the resolution Thursday afternoon, 296-133. Because the Democratic-led Senate approved the House version of the measure without changing a word, it now goes directly to Bush for his signature. The resolution gives Bush the power to use American military force to enforce existing United Nations Security Council mandates that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein dispose of his weapons of mass destruction. It encourages Bush to seek U.N. cooperation in such a campaign, but does not require it. Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., the most outspoken Senate foe of the resolution, accused Congress of "handing the president unchecked authority." Bush spoke after the House had passed the bill. "The House of Representatives has spoken clearly to the world and to the United Nations Security Council: The gathering threat of Iraq must be confronted fully and finally," the president said. The president has repeatedly stressed, however, that no final decision on whether to launch a military strike against Iraq has been made. While Bush hailed the strong House showing, a majority of House Democrats voted against the resolution -- even though their leader, Dick Gephardt of Missouri, was one of its authors. "The issue is how to best protect America. And I believe this resolution does that," Gephardt said. The Senate approval of the resolution came after it voted 75-25 to end delaying tactics. It also voted down a series of efforts to weaken or block the resolution, as did the House. The administration got a big boost Thursday morning when Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle suddenly announced he was putting aside his misgivings to support the president. "I believe it is important for America to speak with one voice," said Daschle, D-S.D. "It is neither a Democratic resolution nor a Republican resolution. It is now a statement of American resolve and values."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,65395,00.html

There were at least 21 countries besides the United States participating in the occupation of Iraq. Are you going to seek arrests for the leaders of all countries that participated in the occupation of Iraq?

Here is the list of countries that participated in the occupation of Iraq:

Albania

Armenia

Australia

Azerbaijan

Bosnia-Herzegovina

Bulgaria

Czech Republic

Denmark

El Salvador

Estonia

Georgia

Kazakhstan

Latvia

Lithuania

Macedonia

Moldova

Mongolia

Poland

Romania

South Korea

United Kingdom

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops...t_coalition.htm

Funny how protesters forget small details such as these.

Edited November 10, 2008 by Splodgenessabounds

[MissMelsWell]

I've protested this war, I'd protest any war. But, I make no outrageous claims about whether it's legal or not, I don't care either way. I think war is wrong no matter what, so I'll protest it in a quiet and civilized way.

Our Constitution gives us the right for peaceful assembly and free speech so we can have our views and opinions heard or demonstrated. I'll exercise that right. They are two of the most important rights we have in this country.

[AROCES]

I've protested this war, I'd protest any war. But, I make no outrageous claims about whether it's legal or not, I don't care either way. I think war is wrong no matter what, so I'll protest it in a quiet and civilized way.

Our Constitution gives us the right for peaceful assembly and free speech so we can have our views and opinions heard or demonstrated. I'll exercise that right. They are two of the most important rights we have in this country.

It ever occured to you that a day may come that either you win the war or loose your freedom to protest?

[MissMelsWell]

It ever occured to you that a day may come that either you win the war or loose your freedom to protest?

That doesn't mean I should support it though. It means I should look for other ways to help resolve the issue without resorting to violence. If it comes to a point where fighting is necessary, I reserve the right to make that decision when the time comes; we haven't come close to that in my lifetime. Perhaps not in the last 60 years or so, perhaps not since the Revolutionary war.

But I don't expect you to respond with anything thoughtful. I don't know why I extended you the curtesy of my honest reply, knowing full well you won't respond with anything other than the snide remarks and personal attacks you've been plastering all over this forum since Tuesday.

[louie]

There were at least 21 countries besides the United States participating in the occupation of Iraq. Are you going to seek arrests for the leaders of all countries that participated in the occupation of Iraq?

Here is the list of countries that participated in the occupation of Iraq:

Albania

Armenia

Australia

Azerbaijan

Bosnia-Herzegovina

Bulgaria

Czech Republic

Denmark

El Salvador

Estonia

Georgia

Kazakhstan

Latvia

Lithuania

Macedonia

Moldova

Mongolia

Poland

Romania

South Korea

United Kingdom

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops...t_coalition.htm

You seem to think that i wrote the letter, you might wanna go back an read the orginal post, before you get on your high horse.

[MasterPo]

What about the illegal attacks of 9/11?

Killing Americans isn't considered illegal.

[MasterPo]

I've protested this war, I'd protest any war. But, I make no outrageous claims about whether it's legal or not, I don't care either way. I think war is wrong no matter what, so I'll protest it in a quiet and civilized way.

Would you have protested WW2?