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[Babe Ruth]

It seems likely, but not certain, that violent video games would be some sort of factor in the final equation.  I think I've read that the military uses shooting video games as some sort of assessment tool for potential recruits.

If killing people becomes part of a game, can that attitude be transferred to real life?

[RaptorBites]

Babe Ruth, on 21 December 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

It seems likely, but not certain, that violent video games would be some sort of factor in the final equation.  I think I've read that the military uses shooting video games as some sort of assessment tool for potential recruits.

Not, video games are not used as potential recruiting material for the military.  My brother has been an Army recruiter for the better part of his career after spending 8 years in the infantry.  

5 years as a recruiter, 2 years as a recruiting station commander, and is now actively recruiting or AMEDD.

Do they use sims in training?  Yes.  
Do they use sims as a method of recruiting?  No.

There has to be a disconnect between simulation and real world.  That is where MILES come in.

Babe Ruth, on 21 December 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

If killing people becomes part of a game, can that attitude be transferred to real life?

There is the potential for it to be a possibility.  However, it all stems back to parenting does it not?  

We live in a day and age where technology pretty much encompass every facet of our lives.  There seems to be a lot of disconnect between the parents and children due to it.  When I was growing up, there wasn't much to watch on TV, computers had no access to internet just BBS, and video games were limited to 8bit nintendo.

[AsteroidX]

My kid played NFL 2006 for 45 minutes. He won he super bowl but that game is so so violent. Just like American football. All that hing. Shud I take it away from him ?

[RaptorBites]

AsteroidX, on 21 December 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

My kid played NFL 2006 for 45 minutes. He won he super bowl but that game is so so violent. Just like American football. All that hing. Shud I take it away from him ?

American Football is Violent?

Holy crap, have to seen videos of the AFL (Australia Football League)?  

I never knew that any professional sports league legalized that kind of destructive assault.(sarcasm)

Edited by RaptorBites, 21 December 2012 - 05:10 PM.

[AsteroidX]

Needs to be added to any ban list Id say then especially off the tele where kids might see it. 21 and over to enter and must pass a background check and psychological testing before being a pass in. You know cant have anyone hit over the head with a bottle or kids seeing that !!

[Seeker79]

Arbenol68, on 21 December 2012 - 07:03 AM, said:

It's about Americans.
(sorry, but there's no nice way of saying it)

While I'm inclined to agree on some levels... Let's not forget the millions of loving and concerned people here.

There is a smoking gun baried somewhere in the chaos.

Like most really bad things it's probably a perfect storm of a few factors that include all of the suggestions.

Edited by Seeker79, 21 December 2012 - 09:32 PM.

[R4z3rsPar4d0x]

evil_kenshin, on 21 December 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

I've played violent games all the way since doom back when I was 6. I haven't gone on any massacres or attacking people so video games are just a scapegoat for when these situations occur.

I highly agree with you Iv been playing games since about the same age you said and I think people just use it as a scapegoat.

[Arbenol68]

Seeker79, on 21 December 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

While I'm inclined to agree on some levels... Let's not forget the millions of loving and concerned people here.

There is a smoking gun baried somewhere in the chaos.

Like most really bad things it's probably a perfect storm of a few factors that include all of the suggestions.

Absolutely. And I don't want to offend American members. But reading through all the threads about the recent murders, and previous threads concerning gun control, it's pretty clear that whilst the majority of American gun owners are perfectly decent people who take their resposibilities seriously; there also appears to be some serious denial about the causes of these atrocities. The way some people talk on these boards it's as if they cannot comprehend that this is an 'American' phenomenon (not exclusively, sure), and the prevailing attitude appears to be "there's nothing to be done about it. Crazy people are going to do crazy things".

Many nations have guns. Lots of kids playing violent videogames everywhere. But nowhere does this happen as it does in the US.

One of the arguments against gun control is that if someone is deranged enough to slaughter strangers, then they will find an alternative method. But in countries where guns are not as readily available we don't see the crazies letting off pipe bombs in schools and shopping malls.

For every factor that people bring up as being possibly influential, not one is unique to the US. But still, America appears to have almost cornered the market in mass murders.

The only factor I can see that is exclusive to America, is Americans. Once they accept this, then they may start to have some meaningful dialogue about how to reduce it. But I don't think any knee-jerk reaction or gun control measures will work. I believe that for any change to occur it will need to come from the bottom up. I think Americans need to re-evaluate their relationship with firearms, and how this fits with the historical context and their sense of national identity.

[Arbenol68]

Here's a great example:

http://www.washingto...n-every-school/

The NRA think the solution is more guns. Armed guards in schools. Seriously? Do Americans want that? And why stop at schools? Clearly, using the same logic, you need armed guards in cinemas and shopping malls. And, would you still call this freedom?

[Darkwind]

I took one away from my kids, because everytime they would play it they would end up in a fight. I used to wait until they and the wife were asleep so i could play it.

[ThickasaBrick]

Parents need to take blame for their poor skills. Video games may influence a younger person to a certain degree but those kind of games are not meant for younger children. Parents need to take responsibility for their children instead of always finding a new scapegoat. MA is only for those 17 or older, not for 10 year old kids whose parents buy "little johnnie" whatever he wants. I believe it should be a finable offense for parents to buy their children MA games. Most parents monitor internet activity to ensure LJ doesn't visit porn sites but allow him unrestricted access to an online video game. The online community for gaming consoles can be a very relaxing place to hang out with virtual friends but it generally is not a place for children.

[RedSquirrel]

I was talking to my friend about this the other day while stomping turtles, gathering coins and bashing blocks with my head. He'd argue how games influence you and I'd argue over it. I told him that if I person is brain dead enough to let a game control his or her actions, they should have been locked up for being mentally unstable.
Honestly, sometimes I feel a bit out of control when I break into houses and smash the vases for rupees, but in the end, I know that it's my choice, not the game's.

[Ronseal]

Hehe, My dad usto hide the first gta away from me. But let me watch him play carmageddon?... always said you may go gulalii!. Gotta remember we are still animal's and some animal's arnt all that mentally stable.

Edited by Ronseal, 22 December 2012 - 12:14 AM.

[AsteroidX]

My kid played MW2 this morning first thing when he woke. He ate his breakfast and drank all his juice but Im  not sure. Should I take him to a doctor and see if medication will help him wanting to play violent video games. Hes 10. Hes off at Grandmas right now so I feel I can post this safely.

[Ronseal]

AsteroidX, on 22 December 2012 - 12:18 AM, said:

My kid played MW2 this morning first thing when he woke. He ate his breakfast and drank all his juice but Im  not sure. Should I take him to a doctor and see if medication will help him wanting to play violent video games. Hes 10. Hes off at Grandmas right now so I feel I can post this safely.

You mean you have actully let him out of you're sight?  oh no he may come back armed.