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#91    Hasina

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:41 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 20 December 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

Again ,in an event of this magnitude,NOTHING gets released to the media ,except when sanctioned by OFFICIAL CHANNELS ,all of whom were on the scene .
What they told the media,is what the media allegedly got wrong .
No other shooting had this many discrepancies .
None .
And the officials can't get information wrong themselves? I always forget that the government needs to be perfect for some people.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:44 PM

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Noah Samuel Pozner, died December 14, a victim of the tragic events at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Noah was born in Danbury, son of Lenny and Veronique Pozner.
“How do you capture the essence of a 6-year-old in just a few words? Noah was an impish, larger than life little boy. Everything he did conveyed action and energy through love. He was the light of our family, a little soul devoid of spite and meanness.”
  He will be forever missed by his mother and father; siblings Danielle, Michael, Sophia, and twin sister Arielle; his grandparents Marie, Dirk, Ivan, Deanna, and Lena; uncles and aunts, Arthur, Stephan, Alexi, Patricia, and Victoria.
“May you fly to that peaceful valley and wait for us there.”
  Funeral services will take place Monday, December 17, at 1 pm, from The Abraham L. Green and Son Funeral Home, 88 Beach Road, Fairfield, with interment following at B'nai Israel Cemetery on Moose Hill Road in Monroe.



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Catherine Violet Hubbard, 6, born June 8, 2006, died December 14, during the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
Her older brother, Frederick William; her parents Matthew and Jennifer; her grandparents Susan and Leo Sullivan and her great-grandmother Geraldine Russell Holden, all of West Chester, Penn.; Nancy and Earl Hubbard of Chatham, Mass.; and four uncles, four aunts, and nine cousins survive Catherine.
She will be remembered for her passion of animals and constant smile. Her family prays that she, all the students of Sandy Hook Elementary, and all those affected by this brutal event find peace in their hearts.
A wake is scheduled for Wednesday, December 19, from 4 to 7 pm, at St. Rose of Lima Church, 46 Church Hill Road, Newtown. A funeral Mass is scheduled for Thursday, December 20, at 10 am, at St Rose. Interment will follow the Mass, in St Rose Cemetery, Cherry Street, Sandy Hook.

Do you see the reality yet? Do you understand that these children are dead and you are doing nothing but tormenting those that survive them?

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:50 PM

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Chase Michael Anthony Kowalski, 7, died December 14, in Sandy Hook Elementary School. He was born October 31, 2005.
The family of Chase sends their prayers and thoughts to all of the families involved with this horrific event. “We are thankful to the Lord for giving us seven years with our beautiful loving son. It is with heavy hearts that we return him to our Lord but know he is among our family and friends that have preceded him to heaven. We appreciate all of the love and support that has been extended to us.”
Chase was an amazing son, brother, and grandson whose heart was only filled with love for all the people he touched. He was a fun-loving energetic boy that had a true love of life. He completed his first triathlon at the age of six and ran in many community road races. Chase had a deep love for the game of baseball and enjoyed practicing with his father and team mates.
Joining the Cub Scouts was just one of his many interests. He could often be found in the yard playing ball, riding his bike or quad. Chase was always excited to attend the kids work shop at the Trumbull Home Depot.
He was greatly loved by his family. He joins his maternal uncle and grandfather, and his paternal great-grandmother and grandmother in a much better place.
His family will receive friends at the Spadaccino and Leo P. Gallagher & Son Funeral Home, 315 Monroe Turnpike, Monroe, Wednesday, December 19, from 2 to 6 pm, with prayer vigils being held throughout the afternoon.
  Chase’s family would like to request the public visitation end at 5:45 pm, to allow them a brief period of privacy.

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Grace Audrey McDonnell, 7, born on November 4, 2005, beloved and cherished daughter of Christopher and Lynn Zapf McDonnell of Sandy Hook, died tragically on December 14, in the Sandy Hook Elementary School.
  A beautiful and artistic soul, Grace was truly a gift from God and represented all that is good in this world.   She was passionate about painting, and she loved the beach.   Grace’s dream was to become a painter and live on Martha’s Vineyard.
In addition to her parents, Grace is survived by her big brother Jack Sheridan McDonnell of Sandy Hook; maternal   grandparents Frederick and Sheila Dunn Zapf of Stony Brook, N.Y.; paternal grandmother Mary Ann Gorbutt McDonnell of Shelton; and many loving aunts, uncles, cousins, and friends.
Grace was predeceased by her paternal grandfather Lawrence P. McDonnell and her namesake, maternal great-grandmother Audrey Dunn Franz.
Family and friends may call may call Thursday, December 20, from 2 to 5 pm, at the St Rose of Lima Church, 46 Church Hill Road, Newtown. A memorial Mass will be celebrated Friday, December 21, at 11 am, in St Rose of Lima Church.

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Ana Grace Marquez-Greene, 6, born April 4, 2006, died December 14, one of the victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.
Ana is survived by her father, Jimmy Greene, a jazz saxophonist and an assistant professor of music at Western Connecticut State University. Her mother, Nelba Marquez-Greene is program coordinator for the Family Therapy Institute at Klingberg Family Centers and Central Connecticut State University adjunct faculty. Her brother Isaiah is a happy, intelligent, and musical boy who loves hockey and very much misses his sister. She will be missed dearly by her grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and scores of friends.
Ana’s love for singing was evident before she was able to talk. Her gift for melody, pitch, and rhythm stood out. She never walked; her mode of transportation was dance, from room to room and place to place. She danced to all the music she heard, in the air or in her head.
Ana loved her God, loved to read the Bible, and loved to sing and dance as acts of worship.
Nelba Marquez Green said she hopes the tragedy of the school shooting will bring a greater awareness to mental health issues and to reduce the stigma attached to those with mental illness, perhaps preventing tragedies like the one that took Ana’s life. The family asks prayers for the legions of people left behind to cherish Ana’s memory.
A Homegoing Celebration for Ana will begin at noon, Saturday, December 22, at First Cathedral, 1151 Blue Hills Avenue, Bloomfield, Conn. Visitation will be from 10 am to noon, Saturday. Burial will be private. These events are for friends and family only.



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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:02 PM

View PostHasina, on 20 December 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:


And the officials can't get information wrong themselves? I always forget that the government needs to be perfect for some people.
You just answered the question yourself.
The officials kept getting it wrong,because it wasn't real,so the misinformation they fed the media kept getting changed .
They're not supposed to get it wrong,so info isn't leaked to the media,until they know what's going on .
Sounds like they weren't all on the same page of the SCRIPT .
this is obviously over your head .

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:04 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 20 December 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:

You just answered the question yourself.
The officials kept getting it wrong,because it wasn't real,so the misinformation they fed the media kept getting changed .
They're not supposed to get it wrong,so info isn't leaked to the media,until they know what's going on .
Sounds like they weren't all on the same page of the SCRIPT .
this is obviously over your head .
It's not over my head. (Also, is it always necessary for you to insult my intelligence when I ask questions?) You believe every little detail of this event was faked, I do not.
So we get back to my original question. Did 20 children die?

Edited by Hasina, 20 December 2012 - 02:07 PM.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:21 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 20 December 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:

You just answered the question yourself.
The officials kept getting it wrong,because it wasn't real,so the misinformation they fed the media kept getting changed .
They're not supposed to get it wrong,so info isn't leaked to the media,until they know what's going on .
Sounds like they weren't all on the same page of the SCRIPT .
this is obviously over your head .


You do understand that 99% of the "misinformation" comes from the media spouting off at the mouth before they actually know what is going on. This is part of a problem that the media has had for years. Taking the word of bystanders and reporting it as news just so that they can say "You heard it here first". The officials involved int he investigation were the CT State Police who made it clear from the beginning... the social media and networks were being filled with misinfo by various sources and word of mouth. If you would take time to click the various links that have been posted in multiple threads you will see where the timeline of events has been laid out.. everything meshes...


Please stop dishonoring the death of these children with your foolish ct's


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

View Post747400, on 20 December 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

I'll leave you people to your paranoia, I think.

Ever seen 'Wag The Dog'?


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:54 PM

It indeed does seem these children and adults that died are becoming Martyrs for change. Change in the heart of Americans. Do not think we are ignorant. What better way to memoralize them.


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:58 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 20 December 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:

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If the 'media' releases photos of the dead, it still wouldn't please you, would it? They would've been 'made by the conspirators'. I think the only way you'll be happy is to travel to Sandy Hook and go tearing through some crime scenes and memorials.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:01 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 20 December 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:

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WTF...........

No, this is the worst if not the most disgusting post I have ever read from this site.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:12 PM

View PostChooky88, on 20 December 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

There is nothing healthy about thinking the govt is behind a conspiracy for the murder of 20 kids.

What is truly unhealthy for society is to feel they don't have a right to question the events which take place around them and contemplate the fact governments have manipulated people through certain catastrophes - both ones that have been staged and those that have not.

You are likely totally unaware that the United States government has already been behind well documented crimes against humanity (putting unwitting citizens through mind control experiments and the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment just to name a couple).

Despite this, you and many others continue to disbelieve the fact governments do such things without giving a second thought to who they harm or kill in the process.

View PostChooky88, on 20 December 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

It's lunatic thoughts like this that make the USA repeat its mistakes.

These aren't "lunatic" thoughts. Simply given the officially recognized crimes the United States government has carried out against its own people it is well within reason to question what else they do to further progress and carry out their secret agendas. History clearly shows us they are willing to kill their own people in order to accomplish their goals.

View PostChooky88, on 20 December 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

You have too many semi automatic assault weapons. No civilian should own one.

I happen to agree with you for the most part there. The idea that this shooting may have been staged by some though has nothing to do with their thoughts about gun control. You can be in favor of, or against the second amendment issue while still questioning the true nature of what took place at Sandy Hook.

View PostChooky88, on 20 December 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

There's your conspiracy. Big business.

Big business is a major factor in how corrupt the United States government is. You should actually educate yourself on that aspect of things more though because it doesn't seem you truly get just how big an issue it is and how big business heavily influences Unites States politics.

View PostChooky88, on 20 December 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Take a reality check and look at the real issue.

You should do the same because you don't realize just how deep the real issue actually goes. You are only seeing it at the surface, but it extends much farther beyond that.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:13 PM

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:16 PM

View PostHasina, on 20 December 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

And the officials can't get information wrong themselves? I always forget that the government needs to be perfect for some people.

There's a huge difference between being imperfect and deceptive.


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:17 PM

It happened. Children are dead.


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:18 PM

View PostDredimus, on 20 December 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

Do you see the reality yet? Do you understand that these children are dead and you are doing nothing but tormenting those that survive them?

I am not questioning that children died. What you don't seem to realize though is that you are being manipulated through your emotions.





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