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#91    Yamato

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:21 PM

That's total flame-bait, folks.  Don't even believe it.

I would put some dollars down on the chance that it's another poster who logs in by another name.   Perhaps the administrator could check us all for matching IP numbers.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:30 PM

View PostYamato, on 14 January 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

That's total flame-bait, folks.  Don't even believe it.

I would put some dollars down on the chance that it's another poster who logs in by another name.   Perhaps the administrator could check us all for matching IP numbers.
Whatever or whoever he is...he is breaking forum rules injecting Racism into any conversation!

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 08:03 PM

View PostStellar, on 14 January 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

Whatever or whoever he is...he is breaking forum rules injecting Racism into any conversation!

Just another troll on UM, what else is new?

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 08:05 PM

View PostStellar, on 14 January 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

What did "the whites" of this generation do to you? My guess is, as a collective, nothing. Let's stop looking at the world as black (people) and white (people) and start seeing it for what it really is: full of just people.

You're black, I'm white. Big deal. Were both human beings and what was done in the past was wrong, but the people of today didn't hold you or your great grandparents as slaves.

You pay money to the government for the roads and bridges upon which you drive, you don't say, "Why should I pay? I wasn't even alive in when they were built." But who pays for the advancements which European cultures have made using innovations of the African cultures, the cradle of civilization, only to be excluded from the wealth those innovations have provided, while my people live in poverty? Who will pay restitution for their innovations which Eurocentric white cultures have stolen and exploited to become wealthy?


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Posted 14 January 2013 - 08:07 PM

View PostDoesntReallyLike, on 14 January 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

You pay money to the government for the roads and bridges upon which you drive, you don't say, "Why should I pay? I wasn't even alive in when they were built." But who pays for the advancements which European cultures have made using innovations of the African cultures, the cradle of civilization, only to be excluded from the wealth those innovations have provided, while my people live in poverty? Who will pay restitution for their innovations which Eurocentric white cultures have stolen and exploited to become wealthy?

Off topic completely. If you wish to discuss this topic start another thread.


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Posted 14 January 2013 - 08:41 PM

Stellar, after all we been through the other day you're now saying things I couldn't agree with more. Yamotos probably right about this guy and Joc is right too. He's looking for trouble. Hell, he's probably white. I'll reply to some things I don't really like about doesntreallylike. That the world, or us, owes anybody anything. Slaves were bought and sold and the act was practiced by Africans for starters, and then the rest of the world too. It isn't something that belongs to just America. It was a different world then. As for all these contributions by the cradle of civilization we don't owe anything for that either, whatever they are. Now it's public domain. Besides, half those countries are probably our enemies and we still give billions and billions of dollars through foreign aid and charity. America in general is good.
Sorry Michelle, I'm a sucker for bait sometimes. Like a dumb fish.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 08:47 PM

View PostDoesntReallyLike, on 14 January 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

You pay money to the government for the roads and bridges upon which you drive, you don't say, "Why should I pay? I wasn't even alive in when they were built." But who pays for the advancements which European cultures have made using innovations of the African cultures, the cradle of civilization, only to be excluded from the wealth those innovations have provided, while my people live in poverty? Who will pay restitution for their innovations which Eurocentric white cultures have stolen and exploited to become wealthy?
Okay..I'll bite..cause I'm bored...
Uh...exactly what innovations of the African Cultures are you talking about...The Plane...nope, the Automobile? Nope.  Running water? Nope.  Electricity? Nope.  Recorded music? Nope  Concrete? Asphalt? Mosquito Repellent?  Nope....Not one African Culture ever so much as even invented the wheel...so please continue my man.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:01 PM

View Postjoc, on 14 January 2013 - 08:47 PM, said:

Recorded music?

No but did they did invent musical instruments, not to mention the first written language so you can have conversations like this. They also invented the sails by which you brought scores of my people here in chains.

See also ... http://www.invention...Inventions.html

Egyptian Inventions:
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Egyptian inventions may not be the first thing that springs to mind when you think about ancient Egypt. Images of mummies and pyramids are likely the more commonly known facets of the civilization. In fact, Egypt is the birthplace of some of the most significant inventions that we still use today. Here are just a few of them:
Egyptian Inventions 1# - Black ink

Black ink was first conceptualized by the Egyptians for writing purposes. Theirs was made from vegetable gum, bee wax and soot. They didn’t just stop at black, however. Different colors were later incorporated to ink by simply substituting organic material with soot.
The ancient Egyptians didn’t just create something that revolutionized literature. They also made sure that it will last for centuries. Check out the manuscripts that they left behind. Practically everything is legible—a testament to how this civilization left an impact well beyond their time.
Egyptian Inventions 2# - Papyrus

If they invented the ink, then it only makes sense that the Egyptians also created the first paper as well. During their time, though, it was called the “papyrus”—an old-school paper made from Cyperus papyrus plants found along the Nile River.
Like their ink, the papyrus manage to last for centuries and can be found in some of the best museums today. The papyrus plant wasn't just used for paper. The plant fibres where originally utilized for mats, ropes, sandals and baskets.
Egyptian Inventions 3# - Cosmetics

Cosmetics, is one of the inventions whose origins can be traced to ancient Egypt, and it is still used today! Many Egyptian concepts are the forerunners of the modern deodorant, tooth paste, wigs and make up used to make ourselves appear better. They even had recipes for creams to remove stretch marks, a system for creating hair extension, and a cure for baldness in men. It’s true that most of their recipes today have been altered to fit specific needs, but the Egyptians first introduced the original concepts. How do you think Cleopatra got those beautifully shaped lips and lashes?
Egyptian Inventions 4# - Musical instruments

Ancient Egyptians were an advanced civilization that enjoyed all that life has to offer—including music. They created a modern version of the trumpet which was originally made using a ram’s horn. In the Egyptian version, they used metals such as copper and bronze. They even paved the way for the creation of the Lyre, and the Oud, a stringed instrument that resembles a guitar.
Egypt Invention 5# - Sails

Considering how the Nile River is so close to Egyptians home, it only made sense for the Egyptians to develop a method of water navigation. It isn’t surprising to find sails as one of their earlier inventions. In fact, the proximity of the Nile has served as an inspiration to many other inventions and innovations from Egypt, proving that necessity and availability are good sources for innovation.
Egyptian Inventions 6# - Shaduf

The Nile River was a necessity to the life in Egypt. Without it they would have problems growing crops and keeping their city alive. The shaduf was developed to aid collection of water from the Nile. A bucket was placed at one end of a pole while the other end was weighted by rocks. The pole was then balanced on a stable stand, resembling your modern see-saw. Think of it as an old-school well for fetching water. The exact device is not really used nowadays, but the concept still lingers.
Egyptian Inventions 7# - Clocks

Mechanical clocks were invented in different parts of the world, but it was the Egyptians that introduced the concept. The most popular one is probably the sun clock where the shadow made by the sun is used to judge what time of day it is. You’ve probably heard of them before as “obelisks”.
But what happens if the sun is gone? That’s where the water clock comes in. The Ancient Egyptians created them to tell time at night. It works like an hourglass where water drips down at a predictable rate and time is told depending on the level of liquid. The invention of the clock also gave way to other inventions such as the 365-day calendar we use today and even the concept of leap years!

The concept of clocks also helped largely with the classification of seasons. Remember how important the Nile River is? Well, the conceptualization of “time” helped Egyptians plot when flood season is coming, when drought will most likely happen, when is the time to harvest, and when they should start planting crops.
Of course, those aren’t the only inventions that emerged out of Egypt and contributed to society. Those mentioned are basically the product of ancient Egypt but even many inventions today still come from the Egypt.


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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:06 PM

Scores of 'your people' were sold to us by 'your people'

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:07 PM

View PostDoesntReallyLike, on 14 January 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

No but did they did invent musical instruments, not to mention the first written language so you can have conversations like this. They also invented the sails by which you brought scores of my people here in chains.

See also ... http://www.invention...Inventions.html

Egyptian Inventions:
innovation from the land of pyramids



Egyptian inventions may not be the first thing that springs to mind when you think about ancient Egypt. Images of mummies and pyramids are likely the more commonly known facets of the civilization. In fact, Egypt is the birthplace of some of the most significant inventions that we still use today. Here are just a few of them:
Egyptian Inventions 1# - Black ink

Black ink was first conceptualized by the Egyptians for writing purposes. Theirs was made from vegetable gum, bee wax and soot. They didn’t just stop at black, however. Different colors were later incorporated to ink by simply substituting organic material with soot.
The ancient Egyptians didn’t just create something that revolutionized literature. They also made sure that it will last for centuries. Check out the manuscripts that they left behind. Practically everything is legible—a testament to how this civilization left an impact well beyond their time.
Egyptian Inventions 2# - Papyrus

If they invented the ink, then it only makes sense that the Egyptians also created the first paper as well. During their time, though, it was called the “papyrus”—an old-school paper made from Cyperus papyrus plants found along the Nile River.
Like their ink, the papyrus manage to last for centuries and can be found in some of the best museums today. The papyrus plant wasn't just used for paper. The plant fibres where originally utilized for mats, ropes, sandals and baskets.
Egyptian Inventions 3# - Cosmetics

Cosmetics, is one of the inventions whose origins can be traced to ancient Egypt, and it is still used today! Many Egyptian concepts are the forerunners of the modern deodorant, tooth paste, wigs and make up used to make ourselves appear better. They even had recipes for creams to remove stretch marks, a system for creating hair extension, and a cure for baldness in men. It’s true that most of their recipes today have been altered to fit specific needs, but the Egyptians first introduced the original concepts. How do you think Cleopatra got those beautifully shaped lips and lashes?
Egyptian Inventions 4# - Musical instruments

Ancient Egyptians were an advanced civilization that enjoyed all that life has to offer—including music. They created a modern version of the trumpet which was originally made using a ram’s horn. In the Egyptian version, they used metals such as copper and bronze. They even paved the way for the creation of the Lyre, and the Oud, a stringed instrument that resembles a guitar.
Egypt Invention 5# - Sails

Considering how the Nile River is so close to Egyptians home, it only made sense for the Egyptians to develop a method of water navigation. It isn’t surprising to find sails as one of their earlier inventions. In fact, the proximity of the Nile has served as an inspiration to many other inventions and innovations from Egypt, proving that necessity and availability are good sources for innovation.
Egyptian Inventions 6# - Shaduf

The Nile River was a necessity to the life in Egypt. Without it they would have problems growing crops and keeping their city alive. The shaduf was developed to aid collection of water from the Nile. A bucket was placed at one end of a pole while the other end was weighted by rocks. The pole was then balanced on a stable stand, resembling your modern see-saw. Think of it as an old-school well for fetching water. The exact device is not really used nowadays, but the concept still lingers.
Egyptian Inventions 7# - Clocks

Mechanical clocks were invented in different parts of the world, but it was the Egyptians that introduced the concept. The most popular one is probably the sun clock where the shadow made by the sun is used to judge what time of day it is. You’ve probably heard of them before as “obelisks”.
But what happens if the sun is gone? That’s where the water clock comes in. The Ancient Egyptians created them to tell time at night. It works like an hourglass where water drips down at a predictable rate and time is told depending on the level of liquid. The invention of the clock also gave way to other inventions such as the 365-day calendar we use today and even the concept of leap years!

The concept of clocks also helped largely with the classification of seasons. Remember how important the Nile River is? Well, the conceptualization of “time” helped Egyptians plot when flood season is coming, when drought will most likely happen, when is the time to harvest, and when they should start planting crops.
Of course, those aren’t the only inventions that emerged out of Egypt and contributed to society. Those mentioned are basically the product of ancient Egypt but even many inventions today still come from the Egypt.
Oh, sorry, I didn't study my history that well...I didn't know we brought Egyptians across the ocean in chains..
Ok...I'm done...you are off topic and way out of the perimeters of the Rules of the Forum with your Race Baiting.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:08 PM

Wait, we are supposed to be talking about how paranoid gun owners are while hearing about from people who are unjustly paranoid about gun owners.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:17 PM

Yeah, gack... back on topic folks, please...


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 03:25 PM

It is easy people, dont feed the troll, and get back on-topic.

Im an evil pinko UN slave liberal commie

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 04:25 PM

View PostOrder66, on 14 January 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

Just another troll on UM, what else is new?

Wtf? Your quote... I didn't say that...

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 04:27 PM

View PostDoesntReallyLike, on 14 January 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

You pay money to the government for the roads and bridges upon which you drive, you don't say, "Why should I pay? I wasn't even alive in when they were built." But who pays for the advancements which European cultures have made using innovations of the African cultures, the cradle of civilization, only to be excluded from the wealth those innovations have provided, while my people live in poverty? Who will pay restitution for their innovations which Eurocentric white cultures have stolen and exploited to become wealthy?

Your people? They are as much your people as they are my people. No, I'm not black, but I'm a human being, as they are.

Racism doesn't end by proliferating revenge against a particular race.

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