Grandpa Greenman Posted March 18, 2015 #1 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I found this picture of a Celtic stone from the Balkans. There is symbol on the stone, above the snake, of two joined Circles. What is your best guessed as to what it represents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted March 18, 2015 #2 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Hmm, a quick search of google for ancient Celtic symbols of sun and moon makes me think thats what it could be, one of the circles has a sort of crescent shape, they also have the 'wheel of the year' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealdwita Posted March 18, 2015 #3 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Both symbols are known as 'Z-rods' and are often found together. They are said to be symbols of the solar cycle and the afterlife. They are not Celtic, but Pictish. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabby Kitten Posted March 18, 2015 #4 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Hi there, This looks like the Newton Stone found in Scotland. http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=3359 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Greenman Posted March 18, 2015 Author #5 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I should have looked that up, Miss information, sorry. lol Anyway, what do you think the ancestors were trying to represent. with the joined circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Greenman Posted March 18, 2015 Author #6 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Both symbols are known as 'Z-rods' and are often found together. They are said to be symbols of the solar cycle and the afterlife. They are not Celtic, but Pictish. So, maybe the bite out of the one on the left might be representing a portal or door? Thanks for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted March 18, 2015 #7 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Actually it is only the Serpent that has the "Z" Rod going through it. Whilst they certainly appear to be Pictish symbology one has to ask what is this doing in the Balkans... Picts were never that far south - east (according to modern archaeology) This is an interesting corollary with the stone you mention, containing all of the same elements: The Aberlemno Serpent Stone, Class I Pictish stone with Pictish symbols, showing (top to bottom) the serpent, the double disc and Z-rod and the mirror and comb Source (Wiki): http://The Aberlemno Serpent Stone, Class I Pictish stone with Pictish symbols, showing (top to bottom) the serpent, the double disc and Z-rod and the mirror and comb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted March 18, 2015 #8 Share Posted March 18, 2015 So, maybe the bite out of the one on the left might be representing a portal or door? Thanks for the information. My guess is that the circle with the "bite" taken out is actually a representation of a Moon phase that could link to the time of month that it was made. The other circle I would guess to be sun and they are linked to tell us the season. Much like a calendar. Still doesn't tell us what this stone is doing in the Balkans however.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Greenman Posted March 18, 2015 Author #9 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Actually it is only the Serpent that has the "Z" Rod going through it. Whilst they certainly appear to be Pictish symbology one has to ask what is this doing in the Balkans... Picts were never that far south - east (according to modern archaeology) This is an interesting corollary with the stone you mention, containing all of the same elements: Source (Wiki): http://The Aberlemno...mirror and comb Saying it was from the Balkans was my mistake, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted March 18, 2015 #10 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Saying it was from the Balkans was my mistake, sorry. Don't hold out on us - where is the image from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealdwita Posted March 18, 2015 #11 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Don't hold out on us - where is the image from? It's the 'Newton Stone' as posted by Red Moon (Post #4 above) Edited March 18, 2015 by ealdwita 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolguy Posted March 19, 2015 #12 Share Posted March 19, 2015 What ever it is its cool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted March 19, 2015 #13 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Hi there, This looks like the Newton Stone found in Scotland. http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=3359 The two pictures are of the same stone, as both images have the exact same carving and imperfections in the stone. Is it in Scotland or the Balkans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted March 19, 2015 #14 Share Posted March 19, 2015 They are not Celtic, but Pictish. I thought the Picts were Celtic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealdwita Posted March 19, 2015 #15 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I thought the Picts were Celtic? The origins of the Picts are hotly are disputed: one theory claims they were formed of tribes who predated the arrival of the Celts in Britain, but other analysts suggest that they may have been a branch of the Celts. The coalescence of the tribes into the Picts may well have been a reaction to the Roman occupation of Britain. Language is equally controversial, as there’s no agreement on whether they spoke a variant of Celtic or something older. Their first written mention was by the Roman orator Eumenius in 297 CE, who mentioned them attacking Hadrian’s Wall. The differences between Picts and Britons are also disputed, with some works highlighting their similarities, others differences; however, by the eighth century the two were thought to be different by their neighbours. Most historians (myself included), tend to keep Picts and Celts separate, for ease of study as much as anything else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Greenman Posted March 19, 2015 Author #16 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Thank you, ealdwita. You have any book recommendations for information on the Picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealdwita Posted March 19, 2015 #17 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Thank you, ealdwita. You have any book recommendations for information on the Picks? Quite a bit of info on here.......... http://halfmoon.tripod.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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