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Sasquatch sighting in Nunavik


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#46    Hawkin

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 07:27 PM

Hope this guy don't run across the road and get hit by teenage girls like the one in Montana.


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Posted 08 October 2012 - 08:44 PM

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Primitive stone tools. Check. Remains of fires. Check. Bones. Check. Sightings. Check.

We have not found any stone tools made to bigfoot size that were made in the modern era.

We have not found the remains of any fires that were made by bigfeets.

We have not found a single bigfoot bone, nor bones that have been gnawed by a giant north american ape. None. not a single one. Ever.

We also have not found any of the other hallmarks of culture:
Art
evidence of language
storytelling
bead or ornamentation making
tools


Nothing.

We have evidence of cultures that have lived on this continent and then disappeared... but NOTHING, not a scrap, from a gang of giant apes that are still living here?
It is literally unbelievable.

Oh, also no currency or evidence of any kind of hierarchy or organization. Or evidence of their existence at all.

Edited by Neognosis, 08 October 2012 - 08:46 PM.


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Posted 08 October 2012 - 10:06 PM

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We have not found any stone tools made to bigfoot size that were made in the modern era.

We have not found the remains of any fires that were made by bigfeets.

We have not found a single bigfoot bone, nor bones that have been gnawed by a giant north american ape. None. not a single one. Ever.

We also have not found any of the other hallmarks of culture:
Art
evidence of language
storytelling
bead or ornamentation making
tools


Nothing.

We have evidence of cultures that have lived on this continent and then disappeared... but NOTHING, not a scrap, from a gang of giant apes that are still living here?
It is literally unbelievable.

Oh, also no currency or evidence of any kind of hierarchy or organization. Or evidence of their existence at all.

Did you even read post 15?? :unsure2:


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Posted 08 October 2012 - 10:20 PM

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Sasquatch sighting in Nunavik

Another Bigfoot sighting eh? Well this time I'm having Nunavik...

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 11:20 PM

View PostBavarian Raven, on 07 October 2012 - 07:07 PM, said:

I think they're just humans who long ago were kicked out of their clans/tribes for being different (suffering from Hypertrichosis) and then continued to live (forming their own small clans, etc), and still live their stone-age existence to this very day. It would explain the sightings, the legends, the whole wife snatching/children snatching incidents, etc. It explains why the bones, hair, etc, turns out to be "human". Because they are humans - just humans that have been living primitively and suffering from Hypertrichosis. It explains the whole legend (and both sides of the argument would be right for once). Thats my theory anyways - what do you guys think? Anyways, cheers.

I just went back and read this.

Here's the problem - these things are seen everywhere, especially all over North America.  To have stable breeding populations in all of these locations, there would need to be thousands of them.  They simply couldn't hide.

Not to mention, if these things were human, they would be more easily found, not less.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 11:49 PM

What kind of berries were they? Where can I get some?


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 12:01 AM

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Not to mention, if these things were human, they would be more easily found, not less.

How so?
Someone that knows the terrain and how to move and live in the woods, would be very - very - hard to catch. History has proven this point time and time again...


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To have stable breeding populations in all of these locations, there would need to be thousands of them

Who said the population is stable? They could be in a free-fall spiral towards 'extinction' - with only a hundred or two, or possibly a lot less left, in isolated pockets.

I'm reminded of the Russian wild woman tale from the early part of the twentieth century - where the locals managed to capture a wild, totally hair covered woman and kept her hostage - and had children by her. Children who looked almost normal (hairier then normal), and were human (I believe DNA tests were done on one of the kids bones). Again, it would probably explain a few of the "abducted by wild humanish looking creature" tales that have circulated around...


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 12:57 AM

That's actually a pretty great track for the kind of terrain we're talking about here. It also looks a lot like the four-toed track pattern attributed to the "True Giant" in Coleman's Field Guide To Bigfoot And Other Unknown Primates. The other thing that I think bears mentioning is that David Paulides connected a number of unexplained missing persons cases to berry patches in Missing 411. He never explicitly states that he believes there's a connection with Bigfoot and these disappearances (and it wouldn't make much sense for some of them), but it's heavily implied. If what these two women saw was a sasquatch, I'd say they're lucky it wasn't hungry.


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 02:38 AM

View PostBling, on 07 October 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

I can't wait for some really good photographic proof. I think it should be law to alwayws have a camera with you if you live in these areas of the US!

We won't ever get that good photographic proof because bigfoot secretes a substance that causes photos and video to be blurry (Japanese genitalia also secrete this substance).


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 03:00 AM

I effin Love Bigfoot! Of all the sightings and reports, never has any Bigfoot attacked a Human! There is something to this allrighty!

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 03:15 AM

View Postufonuts, on 09 October 2012 - 03:00 AM, said:

I effin Love Bigfoot! Of all the sightings and reports, never has any Bigfoot attacked a Human! There is something to this allrighty!

That all depends on what reports you read. A man named Albert Ostman claims to have been abducted by a family of them, and the last person to see Theresa Ann Bier claims she was taken by a group of Bigfeet as well. Very strange cases, both of them. Bier has never been found.


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 03:27 AM

View PostDieChecker, on 08 October 2012 - 05:01 AM, said:

Why not? Think of a super smart snow lepard. If they had human intellegence would we see them at all? Perhaps, perhaps not.



If, if, if...if pigs had wings they might likely be able to fly.

Irrelevant.  We can't assume that Bigfoot has human intelligence, because we can't even prove there is such a thing as a bigfoot.   And despite the scarcity of snow leopards, we have definitive evidence that they exist.  That is to say that they do all the things that real animals do and leave behind telltale mementos of their actual real-life existence.  Exactly what Bigfoot does not do.   Real things leave behind real traces of their real-ness.  All the theories about bigfoot being super-smart, super elusive, burying their dead, etc.......all of these are merely constructions to explain away the inconvenient truth that there is no evidence for their reality.


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 04:11 AM

View Postorangepeaceful79, on 09 October 2012 - 03:27 AM, said:

If, if, if...if pigs had wings they might likely be able to fly.

Irrelevant.  We can't assume that Bigfoot has human intelligence, because we can't even prove there is such a thing as a bigfoot.   And despite the scarcity of snow leopards, we have definitive evidence that they exist.  That is to say that they do all the things that real animals do and leave behind telltale mementos of their actual real-life existence.  Exactly what Bigfoot does not do.   Real things leave behind real traces of their real-ness.  All the theories about bigfoot being super-smart, super elusive, burying their dead, etc.......all of these are merely constructions to explain away the inconvenient truth that there is no evidence for their reality.

I have to agree with Orange here. The existance of Bigfoot or a Bigfoot-like creature has yet to be established. What we have is a bunch of footprint casts, some sightings, a ton of fuzzy "blobsqutch" photos and videos and some other unsubstainciated stories which are proof of nothing, Yeah, they make for great campfire stories, but other than that they really don't amount to a pee hole in the snow. Speculating on what they do, how smart they are or any of that leads to the stories of Bigfoot being inter-dimensional creatures or aliens from God knows where or some sort of spirit things. Bodies, bones, or one gets caught alive is the only thing that will stand as proof. Footprints can and have been faked, some guys never came forward they were found out after they're deaths by family members, then when they asked a surviving spouse they said, "Yeah, he used to get a big kick out of doing that."

All this sort of stuff just leads to more rumors.......speculation......which is nothing more but gossip told by someone who tries to make themselves out to be someone with some sort of insight. "I'm a cryptozoologist! I've been studying Bigfoot for the last twenty years." Ok, so what has he just said, let's take that apart for a minute. First off, there is no accredited college or university that offers a degree, advanced or undergraduate, in cryptozoology. It doesn't exist as a legitimate scientific field of study. I can claim to be a crypotzoologist, my actual degree is in Mechanical Engineering, but what the hey, Matt Moneymaker is a fricking lawyer, he doesn't know a damn thing but the law and as I recall I haven't seen a Biggy in court.

Ok, second part of that statement, what have been studying exactly? We don't have clusters of them like Jane Goodall studied in Africa, there's nothing to study.....ok, a cast or two but which is real and which is not? I keep hearing about these newly discovered "dermal ridges"; how do we know they ain't just a crumpling of a fake rubber foot? .......and since it's rubber, guess what? You can add those puppies really easily. Hell, "Monsterquest" actually showed how to make ones with dermal ridges, meaning the fakers just got schooled on what to do to make them even more convincing to novice idiots. I don't know about anyone else, but I've seen a lot of different tracks made by soft footed creatures, I have yet to see one with dermal ridges. I've never seen any human footprints with dermal ridges. Yet, suddenly, we have this new detail associated with a Bigfoot.

Dermal ridges is another big old hunk-a-hunk of flying funk, pulled out of a body cavity to impress someone and make it sound like someone knows what the heck they're talking about. So please let's knock off the BS about super smart what ever the heck it was when it's all a load.

Now, having said all that, I have to admit I'm intrigued if not fascinated with the possibility that the creature might exist. However, I have a very skeptical eye and try to maintain my objectivity......I do on occasion need a good B-slap just to keep me grounded. Which is one of the reasons I come here.

Edited by keninsc, 09 October 2012 - 04:16 AM.


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 04:39 AM

View PostNeognosis, on 08 October 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

We have not found any stone tools made to bigfoot size that were made in the modern era.
I noted that you said Modern, since there have been several bigfoot sized stone tools found in various parts of the US that are crude and very old, but not pre-homo sapiens.

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We have not found the remains of any fires that were made by bigfeets.
I'll work on this, if you can define how a bigfoot created fire would differ from a human made fire.

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We have not found a single bigfoot bone, nor bones that have been gnawed by a giant north american ape. None. not a single one. Ever.

What percentage of bones would you say get fossilized?

How would bone fragments with gnaw marks on them be IDed as ape gnawed? I've seen many gnawed bones in the woods and most that were even a couple years old were impossible to tell what gnawed them.

Otherwise your statement is completely true. :tu:

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We also have not found any of the other hallmarks of culture:
That is assuming a culture similar to our own. We know that whales have culture, but they don't make art, or tools, or anything lasting.

View Postkeninsc, on 09 October 2012 - 04:11 AM, said:

All this sort of stuff just leads to more rumors.......speculation......which is nothing more but gossip told by someone who tries to make themselves out to be someone with some sort of insight.
Isn't Speculation what goes on in this Forum? This is the Crypto forum right? Very few of the threads will actually be based on anything other then speculation.

Edited by DieChecker, 09 October 2012 - 04:40 AM.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 04:41 AM

View Postkeninsc, on 09 October 2012 - 04:11 AM, said:

hunk-a-hunk of flying funk

Hey, that was our Cryptozoology motto Class of 1985!!!

I thought you looked familiar, keninsc.

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P.S. Just to be clear, because sometimes I am not. I do not believe...
in the existence of a large previously unknown undiscovered hairy biped roaming North America.
But I like to hear the accounts, read the books, watch the shows, discuss and argue about the phenomenon.




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