Still Waters Posted April 19, 2015 #1 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Doctors have called for under-fours to be given free vitamins after a rise in the number of cases of rickets due to a lack of exposure to sunlight. The country's chief medical officer Dame Sally Davies is said to be concerned at the number of children suffering from the condition, which is caused by a deficiency in vitamin D. The disease, a scourge of Victorian Britain, was virtually eradicated after the Second World War but is returning as more and more youngsters are used to staying indoors playing video games than going outside. http://www.dailymail...ng-outside.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
She-ra Posted April 19, 2015 #2 Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) I'm a big fan of vitamin D and sunshine. It's nature's free anti-depressant Off to read article now. Thanks Still Waters! Edited to add: Those poor children. I hope they find this Vitamin D helps them. I would assume they would need a liquid dose at a high level to start 5,000 to 7,000 IU's or more to see if there is any benefit. I know I benefit from a brief 15 to 20 minute sun exposure each day. I personally have found I am much happier when I get a short dose of the Sun's vitamin D each day. Could be all in my mind but I'm cool with that! Edited April 19, 2015 by She-ra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted April 19, 2015 #3 Share Posted April 19, 2015 This just seems strange... Instead of lower SPF and just getting the kids outside.. for free... it's a matter of keeping them inside on their video games and having someone else play for their vitamins? I just don't get it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
She-ra Posted April 19, 2015 #4 Share Posted April 19, 2015 This just seems strange... Instead of lower SPF and just getting the kids outside.. for free... it's a matter of keeping them inside on their video games and having someone else play for their vitamins? I just don't get it. Oh yes, I didn't even register the *get the vitamins for free part*. Ugh, I was just looking at the Vitamin D helping them and their issues. Yes, I'm a big believer in sunshine helping so yes on that part...they *DO* need to get outside more and not sit playing video games. I totally agree with that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblykiss Posted April 19, 2015 #5 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I say no sunlight nor free vitamins for these kids. We need to start breeding towards our Morlock goal anyway. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted April 19, 2015 #6 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Absolutely. Get those kids outside in the sun where they can get the naturally occurring vit D and stop taking up all the bandwidth round here. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter of the Nine Moons Posted April 19, 2015 #7 Share Posted April 19, 2015 @SW Canada (at least the province of Ontario) adds vitamin A & D to milk. Does the UK do anything similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted April 19, 2015 #8 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Where's my free milk? Harte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted April 19, 2015 #9 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Dame Sally Davies, the country's chief medical officer, who has ordered a cost review into giving all under-fours free vitamin D supplements more and more youngsters are used to staying indoors playing video games than going outside. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3045527/Doctors-call-vitamin-D-supplements-fours-rickets-hits-generation-children-used-video-games-playing-outside.html#ixzz3Xm5qzKvp Jeeze, this is a sad state of affairs when our 4 years olds are staying indoors playing video games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omerta Posted April 19, 2015 #10 Share Posted April 19, 2015 The sun hurts my eyes. I prefer my cold and dark basement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted April 19, 2015 #11 Share Posted April 19, 2015 @SW Canada (at least the province of Ontario) adds vitamin A & D to milk. Does the UK do anything similar? No. We do not, however, make any charge to either children or their parents for standing outside. Even on the rare occasions when the sun is shining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblykiss Posted April 19, 2015 #12 Share Posted April 19, 2015 The sun hurts my eyes. I prefer my cold and dark basement. Try being a ginger, the sun hurts my everything. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Br Cornelius Posted April 19, 2015 #13 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Sad state of affairs that its needed for under fours, but do you lament the fact and do nothing or face reality and stave off a future medical crisis. Availability of Vit.D from sunlight is marginal in many parts of the British Isles and Ireland and it accounts for the generally poorer health indices across the whole of the North of the region. Cancer and heart attack rates are significantly higher in the north of the region for exactly the reason that chronic vit.D deficiency has been with us for a very long time. High humidity levels prevent the necessary UV rays getting to our skins even when we are outside. Supplements are fairly much essential for many people. Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted April 19, 2015 #14 Share Posted April 19, 2015 NHS guidance on vitamin D: http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vitamins-minerals/Pages/Vitamin-D.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted April 19, 2015 #15 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Interesting article from 2010 The authors highlight the importance of sunlight to ensure that the body has enough vitamin D, but they also mention other risk factors for vitamin D deficiency, one of which is having dark skin. As the researchers point out, it is possible that the increase in cases of rickets reflects the changing ethnic mix in the UK. http://www.nhs.uk/news/2010/01January/Pages/Rickets-on-the-rise.aspx So has that changed, because they do not mention it here. It would be interesting to see a stat on the children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter of the Nine Moons Posted April 19, 2015 #16 Share Posted April 19, 2015 No. We do not, however, make any charge to either children or their parents for standing outside. Even on the rare occasions when the sun is shining. Lol don't misunderstand me, I'm all for sunshine and getting your kids out to play. I was just curious if the UK did something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted April 19, 2015 #17 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Lol don't misunderstand me, I'm all for sunshine and getting your kids out to play. I was just curious if the UK did something similar. No, I wasn't having a pop at anyone. Just amusing myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Falukorv Posted April 19, 2015 #18 Share Posted April 19, 2015 @SW Canada (at least the province of Ontario) adds vitamin A & D to milk. Does the UK do anything similar? In Sweden we do that with the milk. And vitamins are free for kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Area Posted April 20, 2015 #19 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Where's my free milk? Harte They buried it with Margaret Thatcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted April 20, 2015 Author #20 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Lol don't misunderstand me, I'm all for sunshine and getting your kids out to play. I was just curious if the UK did something similar. When I was in primary school we were given cod liver oil in orange juice to drink, that was as well as free milk every day. I was always outside playing and hated it if I couldn't get out, but we didn't have what kids have now to keep us indoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Gazer Posted April 20, 2015 #21 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Parents need to stop using the TV / Video games as a babysitter and actually get outdoors with their kids. I have two kids (6 and nearly 9) and they are outdoors all the time. I work full time and my mum makes sure they go out to play in the garden after school. I don't let them watch the TV at all at my mums, they are only there 2 hours after school before I collect them so the way I see it they can easily fill that time and as long as it's not raining they are mostly outside playing football (they just wrap up in winter). I live in Yorkshire and we have some beautiful countryside around here. 1 day of the weekend is generally spent out walking somewhere, we go to Brimham rocks and go climbing on the rocks or we go to the seaside and collect pebbles which we paint in to ladybirds and bees and other insects later. Don't get me wrong, my kids LOVE TV and video games and would happily spend hours doing it, but I won't let them. They should be out getting fresh air and having fun (so should we as adults). Luckily because of this they have a great love of the outdoors, they love getting out and exploring and I hope this will keep them interested as they approach the dreaded teenage years where they won't do everything mum tells them to lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Gazer Posted April 20, 2015 #22 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) They buried it with Margaret Thatcher. In my sons school they only get free milk in nursery and year 1 (up to around age 5). They still offer milk everyday now, but the parents need to pay for it. It's part paid for at my sons school and only costs me about £26 for the whole year. Also a recent change to the rules means that for another year, my youngest son gets free school meals even though we don't get any kind of benefits. All kids are now entitled to free school meals now in key stage 1. This saves me a small fortune over a year! Edited April 20, 2015 by Moon Gazer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Falukorv Posted April 20, 2015 #23 Share Posted April 20, 2015 In my sons school they only get free milk in nursery and year 1 (up to around age 5). They still offer milk everyday now, but the parents need to pay for it. It's part paid for at my sons school and only costs me about £26 for the whole year. Also a recent change to the rules means that for another year, my youngest son gets free school meals even though we don't get any kind of benefits. All kids are now entitled to free school meals now in key stage 1. This saves me a small fortune over a year! Here in Sweden milk and lunch are free for everyone till they quit school at the age of 18.. If they continue to study at a university the have to pay for their own lunch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted April 20, 2015 #24 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Doctors have called for under-fours to be given free vitamins after a rise in the number of cases of rickets due to a lack of exposure to sunlight. The country's chief medical officer Dame Sally Davies is said to be concerned at the number of children suffering from the condition, which is caused by a deficiency in vitamin D. The disease, a scourge of Victorian Britain, was virtually eradicated after the Second World War but is returning as more and more youngsters are used to staying indoors playing video games than going outside. http://www.dailymail...ng-outside.html UK law is that it has to be put in butter and margarine. Milk has a lot of it too. My god what are those disgraceful parents feeding their children, just candy? Edited April 20, 2015 by RabidMongoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted April 20, 2015 #25 Share Posted April 20, 2015 They buried it with Margaret Thatcher. When she was in power, and after, I got free milk in UK schools. I don't know where you live but it wasn't one of her national policies to take it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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