Still Waters Posted December 30, 2012 #1 Share Posted December 30, 2012 The RSPCA destroys nearly half the animals it ‘rescues’ each year, with thousands being put down for non-medical reasons, shocking figures obtained by The Mail on Sunday reveal. The animal-welfare charity destroyed 53,000 animals last year – 44 per cent of those it took in – leading critics to claim that the organisation spends too much time on prosecuting cases of neglect and cruelty and not enough on finding new homes for animals. The charity insists the vast majority of the animals were put down to end their suffering, but it admits that last year alone 3,400 animals were destroyed for ‘non-medical’ reasons, such as the lack of space in kennels and catteries. http://www.dailymail...ly-healthy.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted December 30, 2012 #2 Share Posted December 30, 2012 PETA does the same thing. They put down thousands of domestic animals a year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A rather obscure Bassoon Posted December 30, 2012 #3 Share Posted December 30, 2012 No surprises there then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistydawn Posted December 30, 2012 #4 Share Posted December 30, 2012 At least we have a Charity for Animals. Nothing in this world is good. If you are an unwanted pet, you're pretty much doomed any old how. It seems to me, rather than finding a sticky plaster after the event, more money should be spent on the cause. Stop people from taking on pets, when they can't or wont look after them long-time properly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted December 30, 2012 #5 Share Posted December 30, 2012 At least we have a Charity for Animals. Nothing in this world is good. If you are an unwanted pet, you're pretty much doomed any old how. It seems to me, rather than finding a sticky plaster after the event, more money should be spent on the cause. Stop people from taking on pets, when they can't or wont look after them long-time properly. Exactly what I was going to say. We moan at RSPCA and PETA for putting them down but it's all these people who buy pets then change their minds that are the problem. I'm completely against and over controlling government. But I do wonder if you should have to have a license to have a pet, then if something happens the owner is legally liable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistydawn Posted December 30, 2012 #6 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Hey Coffey, I opened my mouth..... and out you popped! Good go you!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oppono Astos Posted December 30, 2012 #7 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Fully agree with the need for education, but ultimately you are up against the 'I can do what I want' society... I was an RSPCA supporter and local branch trustee, but no more - I will not give them another penny of my money, nor second of my time. While I still admire the work of the Inspectorate in dealing with cruelty cases; nationally the charity became politically motivated and entirely commercially focused. Equally locally, the basic aims/objectives of animal care and welfare (animal care costs money) were ignored in favour of making money; a successful animal rescue/re-homing centre was closed - which says everything about what was/is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealdwita Posted December 30, 2012 #8 Share Posted December 30, 2012 RSPCA & PETA? I rest my case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urisk Posted December 30, 2012 #9 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Exactly what I was going to say. We moan at RSPCA and PETA for putting them down but it's all these people who buy pets then change their minds that are the problem. I'm completely against and over controlling government. But I do wonder if you should have to have a license to have a pet, then if something happens the owner is legally liable. Yep. Although it's a horrible fate for the poor animals who are completely innocent victims in all this, the sad fact is that there are too many animals being taken in as pets (another way of saying not enough people willing to invest the time and care needed to care for an animal), and these are charities and so do not have the money or the resources to both cope with the regular influx of unwanted animals AND care for existing "patients". It's not really RSPCA or even PETA I blame, it's idiots; the human race as a whole who seem to live in this materialistic daydream where it sounds all nice to own a living thing but not actually have to care for it. That's the problem- the sense of ownership. You can't OWN an animal, you can only CARE for it! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted December 30, 2012 #10 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Yep. Although it's a horrible fate for the poor animals who are completely innocent victims in all this, the sad fact is that there are too many animals being taken in as pets (another way of saying not enough people willing to invest the time and care needed to care for an animal), and these are charities and so do not have the money or the resources to both cope with the regular influx of unwanted animals AND care for existing "patients". It's not really RSPCA or even PETA I blame, it's idiots; the human race as a whole who seem to live in this materialistic daydream where it sounds all nice to own a living thing but not actually have to care for it. That's the problem- the sense of ownership. You can't OWN an animal, you can only CARE for it! Completely agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaraKitty Posted December 30, 2012 #11 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Because nobody adopts them and they have nowhere to put them.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted December 30, 2012 #12 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Hey Coffey, I opened my mouth..... and out you popped! Good go you!!! That sounded kinda dodgy by the way... lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistydawn Posted December 31, 2012 #13 Share Posted December 31, 2012 That sounded kinda dodgy by the way... lol On re-read, I agree... pardon1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted December 31, 2012 #14 Share Posted December 31, 2012 On re-read, I agree... pardon1 Haha, it's more fun that way anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistydawn Posted December 31, 2012 #15 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Haha, it's more fun that way anyway. Ah, what a gentleman to let me off so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted December 31, 2012 #16 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Ah, what a gentleman to let me off so... Well I try to be a gentlemen. Before you opened your mouth and I popped out, I would take you for a lovely meal, pull your seat out for you, open doors and then treat you to ice cream before the night is over. (sorry couldn't help myself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonecrusher Posted January 1, 2013 #17 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) What is needed here are dog shelters that specialise in certain breeds. Preferably somewhere in the countryside where they will get undivided attention and love. This is how we came to meet Kayla and Ty and I don't think we have regretted the decision. However these inner-city kennels are nothing but a Wormwood Scrubs for dogs. They might as well have handcuffs on their paws waiting for a slow and painful death. Their plight really breaks my heart which indicates that some people don't want their hectic schedules ruined. This is man's best friend for crying out loud so if your going to blame somebody it's not the jailers. It's the people who can't be bothered releasing them from their misery. I didn't want to get serious on this night of all nights but it really gets my goat. Edited January 1, 2013 by Medium Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted January 2, 2013 #18 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) We fought this in nyc for years. We finally got the Gestapo at our animal care and control ,OUT . What needs to really come out is how the USA ASPCA ,uses 85% of all monies collected for alleged animal care,they use to line their pockets. They all have huge salaries ,and 13% of donations go to the animals they claim to save . They say their no kill as well,however,they farm out animals they "save",,to kill facilities ,daily . It's despicable . I won't give money to any of them any more. All lies . PETA ,aspca ,even the humane society . Feh .They use this animals as fodder,to make money . Edited January 2, 2013 by Simbi Laveau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted January 2, 2013 #19 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Because nobody adopts them and they have nowhere to put them.. This. My g/f has a 10+ year-old lab who costs her (us) $150/month and that's hoping that nothing extracurricular happens at the Vet. We can provide a quality of life for our beloved because we have the resources to do so. If they were keeping millions of half-fed ill-cared for animals in giant warehouses full of dirty cages because they could at least afford to do that, people would be complaining about that too, so it's a difficult situation of damned if they do, damned if they don't. I have to assume these animal-rights groups attract some very enthusiastic volunteers who genuinely love animals and if the abuse was as systemic as some here are making it sound, we'd have a lot more whistleblowers coming out than we do in this sensationalized article. Refusing to support them isn't going to save any lives it will only take them. If we really care about animals, we should volunteer our time free of charge...there are animal shelters everywhere that desperately need our help and have absolutely nothing to pay us for it but gratitude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysticwerewolf Posted January 2, 2013 #20 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) I have to ask what is the R of RSPCA I know the ASPCA and many of the state SPCAs but not the foreign ones. @yamato; don't count on being able to volunteer I tried last year and was refused without a reason why. i have had many bassett hounds ( my avatar to the left was 12 and a half when he passed two months ago) over the years and had worked on a farm in my youth ( several dozen years ago) but was not found fit to work with animals ( no i have never been suspected of or found guilty of anything) and they refused to say why Edited January 2, 2013 by mysticwerewolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted January 2, 2013 #21 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I have to ask what is the R of RSPCA I know the ASPCA and many of the state SPCAs but not the foreign ones. @yamato; don't count on being able to volunteer I tried last year and was refused without a reason why. i have had many bassett hounds ( my avatar to the left was 12 and a half when he passed two months ago) over the years and had worked on a farm in my youth ( several dozen years ago) but was not found fit to work with animals ( no i have never been suspected of or found guilty of anything) and they refused to say why It's "Royal" that someone would like to remove from their name according to the article. I'm sorry for your recent loss but congrats on attaining such a long life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblingRebel Posted January 2, 2013 #22 Share Posted January 2, 2013 The R stands for Royal. I think. It's so very true though that people just don't realise the amount of work that goes into bringing up a puppy. Lets be honest now, baby dogs are effing bonkers, they soon grow out of it though with the right care and attention. Anyone who ever asks me advice about getting a dog, I just tell them its basically gonna be like having a 4 year old kid for the next 10-15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted January 2, 2013 #23 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) I have to ask what is the R of RSPCA I know the ASPCA and many of the state SPCAs but not the foreign ones. @yamato; don't count on being able to volunteer I tried last year and was refused without a reason why. i have had many bassett hounds ( my avatar to the left was 12 and a half when he passed two months ago) over the years and had worked on a farm in my youth ( several dozen years ago) but was not found fit to work with animals ( no i have never been suspected of or found guilty of anything) and they refused to say why I applied for numerous jobs with these places ,and they don't even reply . I applied for an 8 $ an hour,picking up cat poop job,with the aspca in nyc,and they said since I sent my resume as an attachment ,instead of as an email (the email was my cover letter),they couldn't consider me to pick up cat **** . Yah . I also applied because they claimed to have no volly positions ,and it would have cost more to dri ecthere ans park and pay tolls,than what I'd make. I did it for the cats . I volunteered at a place called Angelsgate ,until it moved upstate . At least I knew I actually helped animals in need. Our ACC is an abomination ,and the mayors office kept covering it up. We complained and rallied for years,and finally they removed the idiots purposely killing the animals . Took I about 4 years though . Edited January 2, 2013 by Simbi Laveau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastLazyGun Posted January 2, 2013 #24 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) The RSPCA - the world's oldest and biggest animal welfare organisation - has become nothing more than a highly politiced left-wing branch of the London legal profession. Rather than taking care of cats and dogs it thinks its main duty these days is to prosecute "Tory toffs" which it says, with hardly a shred of evidence, are breaking Labour's hunting laws by using dogs whilst hunting. The latest such case was the prosecution of the Heythrop hunt, which is based, not coincidentally, in David Cameron's constituency of Witney in Oxfordshire. The Heythrop was found to have broken anti-hunting laws introduced by the Blair government. Evidence against the hunt included a video, a brief section of which showed foxhounds ripping into the carcass of a fox. Anti-hunt protestors opposed to the Cameron Government had filmed hundreds of hours of evidence, but it was only this tiny fragment that amounted to anything approaching conclusive evidence of wrongdoing. After the video was played Jeremy Carter-Manning QC, the expensive London barrister hired to prosecute the Heythrop, said (quite poetically), ‘The hounds converge in semi-circles and the screaming reaches a crescendo. The hounds are making a killing.’ Of course, it's not only the hounds which made a killing. So did Mr Carter-Manning, who earned fat fees in this court case from a charity whose funds come from donations and bequests from the public - donations and bequests which the public thought were going to help dogs and cats, not to pay lawyers in court fees. Even district Judge Tim Pattinson, who presided over the Heythrop case, noted that the £330,000 spent on the case by the RSPCA was ‘a quite staggering sum’. He said that he imagined ‘members of the public may feel that RSPCA funds can be more usefully employed’. There are some people who say that the RSPCA picked on the Heythrop simply because it had a link with the PM. But the public is now getting wind of what the RSPCA is doing with public money, so much so that its income has fallen so badly that 90 of its 1,500 staff are being cut. The irony in all this is that the RSPCA was co-founded in 1824 as the SPCA (it received royal patronage in 1837 and a royal charter in 1840, which changed its name to RSPCA) by an MP, Richard Martin, who was himself a keen fox hunter. Edited January 2, 2013 by TheLastLazyGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysticwerewolf Posted January 2, 2013 #25 Share Posted January 2, 2013 i tried for a couple of the local paid clean up (scooping) jobs and didn't get a responce, so i tried as a volunteer and was told in four paragraphs that 'you are not qualified' when i wrote back and asked why i never got an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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