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#1    gasc1988

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 03:12 PM

2 UNKNOWN POUSSIN'S PAINTINGS  DISCOVERED :THE KEY OF RENNES LE CHATEAU'S MYSTERY  AND  SHOUGBOROUGH :POUSSIN'S SECRET IS DISCOVERED

There is a great mystery Rennes le chateau with strange priest Sauniere . Nicolas Poussin is in the center of this mystery . Many people believe since long years it's the "BERGERS d'ARCADIE" which give the answer!but there has been no answer in this painting just some hypothetic answers . There is 6 years I've received from my mother 2 paintings which were in my family since a long time . They came from a priest Henri Gasc ,priest in a church Notre Dame de Marceille near Rennes le chateau . He was my ancestor.Since 6years we 've discovered that these paintings were of Nicolas Poussin and were the key of the Rennes le chateau's mystery and the key of Poussin's secret .
We have found many symbols and many hidden symbols in these paintings ,which give the answer at all the questions about this mystery . I tell about all this story and my discoverings in my site

http://www.lesecretdepoussin.com/

There has been a reportage on the greatest french TV to explain my discoverings . These 2 paintings have been found in a crypt of the church where Gasc was priest . near Rennes le chateau . He has discovered the secret in these 2 paintings and has passed on the secret in parchments, these famous parchments which have been founded in Rennes le chateau's church by Sauniere . There has been no luck discovering by Sauniere , but these parchments have been placed here, to be found and pass on the secret . Read my incredible story which explains this fabulous mystery ....
In these paintings there is a code to find the answer at this secret . There is a hidden message and a hidden picture in each painting.You must find it to understand. .
The Poussin' seal is a boat ,in conection with Argonautes . This Poussin's seal is in connection with Poussin's secret . Look my painting which also is in connection with Argonautes


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 03:39 PM

Can you post a link to the English version please?

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 03:17 PM

View PostStill Waters, on 16 April 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

Can you post a link to the English version please?
  yes in some days!all the site will be all in english! But I want a well translation so my son  who works at USA  ,and a professional do it !thank youto wait it . I send in this forum but another thread ??I do't want to  do anything wrong with your rules? I send to day an interview which can be also seen  in english . In this interview ,I give a lot of revelations.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 03:40 PM

http://www.lesecretd...n.com/liens.php

IN THE LINKS PAGE :ARQUA .You can have on Arqua site after the englsh version.
LAST REVELATIONS ABOUT RENNES LE CHATEAU :my interview give more details ...


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 07:53 PM

The paintings really are related to the Rennes le Chateau mystery, in my opinion. I did a geometric analysis on them and found that they contain geometry which is a combination of a hexagram and a pentagram. It took me a while to find it. Not very obvious. I did eventually hit it though. I then analyzed a Google Earth image of the RLC area and discovered the exact same figure in the landscape marked out by several locations, including Esperaza church. As far as I know, this particular layout has never been reported previously by Henry Lincoln or anyone else. The center of the figure is just South of RLC rather than right in it, which may be what prevented its prior discovery.

Whether or not the paintings were really done by Poussin is debatable but their provenance is known to go back to Henri Gasc and the Cathedral of Notre Dame de Marseiles, if I understood Ms. Gasc correctly ( there are quite a few different "Notre Dames" around). Whoever painted them was clearly familiar with Poussin's "Jonah Cast into the Sea", a painting which was housed in the Blue Velvet Room of Buckingham Palace in the 1800s. I don't know if it's stil there or not but an etching copy is available on the Net. It is similar but significantly different from the Gasc painting of the same subject. It may never be established who painted them but nonetheless the important thing is that they are related to the RLC mystery and appear to have similar geometry to the RLC region. Could be coincidence, could be not coincidence.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:54 AM

View PostGS1, on 28 May 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

The paintings really are related to the Rennes le Chateau mystery, in my opinion. I did a geometric analysis on them and found that they contain geometry which is a combination of a hexagram and a pentagram. It took me a while to find it. Not very obvious. I did eventually hit it though. I then analyzed a Google Earth image of the RLC area and discovered the exact same figure in the landscape marked out by several locations, including Esperaza church. As far as I know, this particular layout has never been reported previously by Henry Lincoln or anyone else. The center of the figure is just South of RLC rather than right in it, which may be what prevented its prior discovery.

Whether or not the paintings were really done by Poussin is debatable but their provenance is known to go back to Henri Gasc and the Cathedral of Notre Dame de Marseiles, if I understood Ms. Gasc correctly ( there are quite a few different "Notre Dames" around). Whoever painted them was clearly familiar with Poussin's "Jonah Cast into the Sea", a painting which was housed in the Blue Velvet Room of Buckingham Palace in the 1800s. I don't know if it's stil there or not but an etching copy is available on the Net. It is similar but significantly different from the Gasc painting of the same subject. It may never be established who painted them but nonetheless the important thing is that they are related to the RLC mystery and appear to have similar geometry to the RLC region. Could be coincidence, could be not coincidence.

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Interesting idea. I would never have thought of two geometric shapes overlaid. Using geometric shapes was a well known method for many artists for hundreds of years though, right?

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 10:51 PM

View PostDieChecker, on 29 May 2012 - 12:54 AM, said:

Interesting idea. I would never have thought of two geometric shapes overlaid. Using geometric shapes was a well known method for many artists for hundreds of years though, right?

Yes, in a way, but that was generally just very basic whole number proportions (harmonic proportions) or Phi proportions, things like that. This is more like purposely concealing a geometric shape and only indicating its presence by a very few references in the features, like masts in the case of these paintings. I don't believe this was done for harmonic type reasons but more of a puzzle to be solved by someone who had a suspicion that certain "sacred" geometry figures may have been concealed. If you weren't purposely looking for this type of figure, a hexagram or pentagram being the most obvious ones to look for, you would not have been aware that they had been indicated by certain features.

This is not a case of the geometry being the basis of the layout of the whole painting, it's only a few features which are related to the geometry. That's why I say that it's not merely an artistic technique. It's possible that I don't have the figures positioned exactly as the artist intended, but based on the Rennes-le-Chateau area landscape geometry I also showed, I'd say it's a good bet that this is the geometry which is in those paintings. At least one mast in each painting appears to exactly match the angle of one of the lines of the geometry. That tells me it's really in there, even if I don't have it exactly right yet. This version does look pretty good though.

In the painting of the caravell, or whatever that ship is, it's not the main mast that is the reference, but a smaller secondary mast. That makes it a little harder to solve the puzzle. Also, the top point of the hexagram isn't on any feature, as you might expect. It's location is indicated, instead, by the small flag above it. It's right below the flag. That's the reference. Then you have to make the circle so that it passes through the knobby thing on the main mast where the flagpole joins it. See how the artist made this painting much harder to solve than the other one?

It is fortunate that Ms. Gasc contacted me. How long do you think it would have taken for somebody else to find that? The solution is far from obvious. It's pretty difficult stuff. That then spurred me to look for a similar figure in the RLC landscape. So you could say that if Ms. Gasc had not contacted me then the real RLC pentagram would probably never have been found. Or maybe I'm just being overly dramatic. Maybe it's nothing, who knows?

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 12:01 AM

I made an improved version. I wasn't really happy with the firsy one anyway. This one uses the horizontal pole on the main mast as the reference for one of the pentagram lines while the pole of the large flag references a line of the hexagram. The whale's tail  appears to be involved and also his eye. Some parts of the geometry extend beyond the borders of the painting. This is usual for these type of secret geometry paintings. It makes it a little more difficult to solve. Something which makes this one a little tricky is that it's not one of the actual pentagram lines being indicated by the mast pole, but a line bisecting the left arm.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:43 AM

Here's an odd thing on the ground near the part of the RLC geometry I showed earlier which corresponds to approximately where the falling Jonah is in the painting. It looks like a labyrinthe or something.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 08:48 PM

New version of the Storm on the Sea of Galilee painting geometry.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:41 AM

I was just looking at Google Earth to see what some of the geometry points happen to hit. Seems the right arm point of the pentagram is on the flank of Mt. Blanchefort and the lower right hexagram point is in Coume Sourde and the bottom point is on a flank of Serre de Lauzet. Not being familiar with France, I didn't even notice Blanchefort when I first posted that image. Certainly seems to confirm that my discovery is real though.

I also used the ruler in Google Earth to see how big the circle is. The only units it was an even number in was nautical miles, ie; one minute of arc on a meridian. It's exactly 4 nautical miles in diameter.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 10:23 PM

View Postgasc1988, on 16 April 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

2 UNKNOWN POUSSIN'S PAINTINGS  DISCOVERED :THE KEY OF RENNES LE CHATEAU'S MYSTERY  AND  SHOUGBOROUGH :POUSSIN'S SECRET IS DISCOVERED

There is a great mystery Rennes le chateau with strange priest Sauniere . Nicolas Poussin is in the center of this mystery . Many people believe since long years it's the "BERGERS d'ARCADIE" which give the answer!but there has been no answer in this painting just some hypothetic answers . There is 6 years I've received from my mother 2 paintings which were in my family since a long time . They came from a priest Henri Gasc ,priest in a church Notre Dame de Marceille near Rennes le chateau . He was my ancestor.Since 6years we 've discovered that these paintings were of Nicolas Poussin and were the key of the Rennes le chateau's mystery and the key of Poussin's secret .
We have found many symbols and many hidden symbols in these paintings ,which give the answer at all the questions about this mystery . I tell about all this story and my discoverings in my site IN ENGLISH NOW

http://www.lesecretdepoussin.com/

There has been a reportage on the greatest french TV to explain my discoverings . These 2 paintings have been found in a crypt of the church where Gasc was priest . near Rennes le chateau . He has discovered the secret in these 2 paintings and has passed on the secret in parchments, these famous parchments which have been founded in Rennes le chateau's church by Sauniere . There has been no luck discovering by Sauniere , but these parchments have been placed here, to be found and pass on the secret . Read my incredible story which explains this fabulous mystery ....
In these paintings there is a code to find the answer at this secret . There is a hidden message and a hidden picture in each painting.You must find it to understand. .
The Poussin' seal is a boat ,in conection with Argonautes . This Poussin's seal is in connection with Poussin's secret . Look my painting which also is in connection with Argonautes

thanks for pictures GS1 !wonderful work


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Posted 06 June 2012 - 01:02 AM

I'd like to state that I don't personally believe Francoise Gasc's paintings were done by Poussin. In the video on her site you can see that they are only about 12'18" wide. Poussin never made paintings that small. Her site says that her parents didn't specify any particular artist to have made the paintings. That they were done by Poussin was just Francoise's own idea. What made her think that, I don't know. Being that small, Poussin is the last painter I would have attributed them to.

I do however believe that they were painted by somebody involved in a secret society, probably in the 17-1800s. The Jonah one is clearly based on Poussin's painting "Jonah cast into the Sea", so there may be a Poussin link that way, but it clearly wasn't painted by him, the whale/fish looks quite different from Poussin's.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:11 PM

I made a new Google Earth geometry image. In this case the circle is 7777 yards in diameter. The center line passes through the tower on the RLC church. I guess the idea was to have the church at the "heart" of the pentagram, representing Mary Magdalene, the hexagram representing presumably Jesus.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:43 PM

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It's absolutely wrong ,but very wrong ,sorry  what you said about "petits formats" by Poussin!!!I don't know why you say that ? Poussin has painted on easel and little paintings . You have some examples "Ravissement de St Paul " ( 41,5 /30 )

Le Ravissement de saint Paul
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41,5 x 30 cm
Peint pour Paul Fréart de Chantelou
Sarasota, Floride, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art (en)




" la Piéta" "Ste Rita" ( 48/37° "L'annnonciation(45 /38)..'l'assomption de la vierge " 58/37)etc..many other paintings little size

we have worked about Poussin with art professor at Paris Beaux Arts the biggest art scholl .and with an expert .There is pigments analysis  !expert has  found the same as in another Poussin painting! so it's not possible to say it's not Poussin !  
You don't believe Brian we say my paintings are by Poussin as it ! at TV and on a site !!!! there is a lot of work and read on my site what Mrs Whitaker says about my paintings !nobody has said me there are not by Poussin . but in england and also in france many people have worked about Bergers arcadie and don't like my paintings are by Poussin for this reason !!there are many interests from each person and it's for this reason people don't answer !

your work is well in sacred gemetry but art domaine is special and for specialist ! we have specialist around us about it, and it's for this reason our work is very serious and argumented .

We could sell these paintings and one of expert want speak about my pantings with Rosenberg . It's me ,who has say no about it . I wanted reveale the story.

Your alysis about little formats is intersting when you say "it's for secret"...these paintings were hidden in a little place and have travelled so little format was easier


but thanks  GS1 for your travel  about sacred geometry ! but for art  we must have  a particular knowledge
Here is what says the french researcher about Poussin !in french to translate!


propos du chercheur français qui travaille sur Poussin et RLC

sa construction n'est pas conventionnelle mais il n'échappe pas aux axes et aux points de repères...

Sur ce tableau,en plus du 5,nous avons aussi le 6 (toujours grâce au rectangle d'or et Phi et aux axes divulgués par les mats du bateau)

l'homme en l'air entre le bateau et le monstre est extraordinaire dans sa position car il forme une croix et donne le centre du cercle jumeau avec le cercle bleu formant l'étoile à 6 branches (ce point avec le jaune sont les plus importants du tableau et les angles formés par les branches gauches du pentacle et de l'hexagone pourraient donner une latitude et longitude si le peintre avait pour but de cacher un endroit quelconque (moi c'est ce que j'aurai fais...)

voilà j'espère que ça te suffira,ainsi les formes m'ont parler.quand j'ai lu ta réponse et que j'ai vu le nom du peintre j'ai eu un sourire...j'ai fais tout un sujet sur ce peintre et ses toiles en plus d'une recherche sur le mystère de Rennes le Château,donc cela ne m'étonne pas d'y avoir trouvé une symbolique à pentacle et le nombre d'or (tout comme Léonard de Vinci d'ailleurs).

ce secret repose sur un savoir Atlante caché dans la région surement dans une grotte ou caverne intérieure (pas loin il y a le mont Buggarach).tout le monde crois que c'est un trésor matériel alors que finalement non.

ce savoir doit inclure une preuve concrète de l'existence d'une ancienne civilisation antérieure à la notre venant des templiers et Cathares et doit mettre en péril les croyances erronés de l'église catholique (et des religions en général)

dans mes recherches j'y ai trouvé des corrélations avec les constellations d'Hercule et le Bouvier

NP sont ses initiales

la majorité de ses tableaux montrent des paysages avec des bâtisses ou châteaux et ce qui pourrait être un pic rocheux avec des personnages plus ou moins mythiques (anges,diables,titans,etc...)

je pense aux paysages des environs de Rennes le château,du mont Bugarach (voir mystères et légendes liées à ce mont)

il y a toujours présence du nombre d'or et une étoile à 5 branches caché dans la construction du tableau créant des axes et points qui montrent peut être des endroits secrets si l'on se trouve dans le champ de vision des personnages présent dans les tableaux si l'on se rend dans ses lieux dans la réalité



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