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#151    TheMacGuffin

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 02:41 AM

View Postbadeskov, on 09 September 2012 - 02:30 AM, said:

And these documents tell us what exactly? That it was ET? Or an aberration?

You think it's all some kind of aberration, but that was definitely not the case with the people who actually saw that UFO.


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Posted 09 September 2012 - 03:35 AM

It's not just me who claims that not only are ETs here, but that we have also recovered and used some of their technology.  Ben Rich said that.

So did Prof. John R. Searl, who died in 2005.

http://searlsolution.com/


So did Dr. Jean-Pierre Petit, who heard from american scientists that such alien technology had been recovered, and that it has led to scientific advances here on earth, like Petit's MHD propulsion technology.

http://www.google.co...ZarKWfZL0gQNAjg


All of these ideas of plasma and anti-gravity technology that have been associated with UFOs since at least the 1950s are hardly mere science fiction, and this leads me to believe that we are indeed flying around far more advanced craft ourselves than the public knows about.

This information does leak out from time to time, despite almost fanatical efforts to suppress it.


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Posted 09 September 2012 - 03:38 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 09 September 2012 - 02:41 AM, said:

You think it's all some kind of aberration, but that was definitely not the case with the people who actually saw that UFO.

Well, until we have tangible evidence to show us otherwise, we just don't know, do we?


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It's not just me who claims that not only are ETs here, but that we have also recovered and used some of their technology.  Ben Rich said that.

So did Prof. John R. Searl, who died in 2005.

http://searlsolution.com/


So did Dr. Jean-Pierre Petit, who heard from american scientists that such alien technology had been recovered, and that it has led to scientific advances here on earth, like Petit's MHD propulsion technology.

http://www.google.co...ZarKWfZL0gQNAjg


All of these ideas of plasma and anti-gravity technology that have been associated with UFOs since at least the 1950s are hardly mere science fiction, and this leads me to believe that we are indeed flying around far more advanced craft ourselves than the public knows about.

This information does leak out from time to time, despite almost fanatical efforts to suppress it.

Searl eh? Never mind.

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Edited by badeskov, 09 September 2012 - 03:38 AM.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 03:42 AM

View Postbadeskov, on 09 September 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

Well, until we have tangible evidence to show us otherwise, we just don't know, do we?

Searl eh? Never mind.



When you say "never mind", it makes me wonder if there's something to it.  Of course as Petit said, he already saw a plasma engine that could put out one million million watts of power, and that the secret U.S. space program is far more advanced than anyone knows.

You could say that he was a disinformer or victim of disinformation, too, which means quite a lot of that must be going on.  Gee, I wonder who's doing all that and why they'd bother?

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 04:10 AM

Petit also said that the type of ET craft recovered had not been interstellar vehicles but more like small shuttles, and that accords with the information I have as well.  They were not capable of traveling vast distances in space.


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Posted 09 September 2012 - 04:12 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 09 September 2012 - 03:42 AM, said:

When you say "never mind", it makes me wonder if there's something to it.

You are naturally allowed to think of it what you like.

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Of course as Petit said, he already saw a plasma engine that could put out one million million watts of power, and that the secret U.S. space program is far more advanced than anyone knows.

Which naturally makes no sense, as you don't measure engine thrust in Watts.

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You could say that he was a disinformer or victim of disinformation, too, which means quite a lot of that must be going on.  Gee, I wonder who's doing all that and why they'd bother?

Nope. Just that he didn't know what he was talking about, otherwise he wouldn't have used Watts as a measure of thrust.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 04:13 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 09 September 2012 - 03:42 AM, said:

When you say "never mind", it makes me wonder if there's something to it.  Of course as Petit said, he already saw a plasma engine that could put out one million million watts of power, and that the secret U.S. space program is far more advanced than anyone knows.

You could say that he was a disinformer or victim of disinformation, too, which means quite a lot of that must be going on.  Gee, I wonder who's doing all that and why they'd bother?
MacGuff buddy !  If we had a tri-zillion Gigga,multibugzillion power unit do you not think that a few million people would of seen it or at least worked on it and talked by now ?
THe Government has not the ability to hide such a secret, all though they do try to keep pesky eyes and ears outta Groom cause thats where we keep our newest toys !
But If we really had power units of that magnitude and machines to fly them with ,then I dont think we would be still putting together chem-rockets,and Cave man style boosters!
Afterall it is getting on thru the 21st century !
I`ll count my DUCKS when I see another UFO like what I saw and can get proof of its exisitance ! Until then were all just dreaming.
But HEy ! Dreams are Good remember Goddard ,& Verner V.B and Speed Racer,and Capt, Mid ! They all went before us !Knowing is part of the equation ! Learning how to actually build a FTL craft will be a bit down the road.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 04:17 AM

View Postbadeskov, on 09 September 2012 - 04:12 AM, said:

You are naturally allowed to think of it what you like.

Which naturally makes no sense, as you don't measure engine thrust in Watts.

Nope. Just that he didn't know what he was talking about, otherwise he wouldn't have used Watts as a measure of thrust.



That's exactly what he did say, though, so you'd have to take it up with him.  I always understood that to be a measure of power, with one million million watts meaning a lot of power.  

Again, when you deny these things, it only makes me think that there must be some truth in it.  You are one of my own little "barometers" in that respect.


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Posted 09 September 2012 - 04:20 AM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 09 September 2012 - 04:13 AM, said:

MacGuff buddy !  If we had a tri-zillion Gigga,multibugzillion power unit do you not think that a few million people would of seen it or at least worked on it and talked by now ?
THe Government has not the ability to hide such a secret, all though they do try to keep pesky eyes and ears outta Groom cause thats where we keep our newest toys !
But If we really had power units of that magnitude and machines to fly them with ,then I dont think we would be still putting together chem-rockets,and Cave man style boosters!
Afterall it is getting on thru the 21st century !


Nothing is easier than hiding things from people, since most of them don't know or care.  As one crook that I turned over to the FBI once told me: 10% of the people make things happen, 20% watch things happen, and 70% wonder what happened.  

This guy was a complete louse, but he probably had that right.  LOL


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Posted 09 September 2012 - 04:25 AM

40 Years?????, Duh, most normal Human Beings already know Aliens exist, how Moronic is this guy?

What is wrong with some people? They are so clueless to what is going on around them all the time, like 24/7? They have to open their eyes and look, then they will see the Matrix we all live in!

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 04:28 AM

View Postufonuts, on 09 September 2012 - 04:25 AM, said:

40 Years?????, Duh, most normal Human Beings already know Aliens exist, how Moronic is this guy?

What is wrong with some people? They are so clueless to what is going on around them all the time, like 24/7? They have to open their eyes and look, then they will see the Matrix we all live in!


Now that's the most sensible thing I've heard all day, aside from my own posts of course!


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Posted 09 September 2012 - 04:29 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 09 September 2012 - 04:17 AM, said:

That's exactly what he did say, though, so you'd have to take it up with him.  I always understood that to be a measure of power, with one million million watts meaning a lot of power.  

Watts is indeed the unit of power, however, it makes no sense as a measure for thrust. That he uses that measure tells me that he in fact himself does not know, as anybody versed in or working with engines, be they regular rocket engines or more advanced plasma engines, would know. They never use such terms. In fact, it tells you nothing and it is meaningless in this context. That basically tells me that I have no not need to take it up with him. Quite obviously, in fact.

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Again, when you deny these things, it only makes me think that there must be some truth in it.  You are one of my own little "barometers" in that respect.

I deny nothing. I merely point out that you read something you did not understand, by somebody that clearly did not understand it either. And you take that as gospel and that is why you, again and again, end up in a hole of your own making.


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40 Years?????, Duh, most normal Human Beings already know Aliens exist, how Moronic is this guy?

What is wrong with some people? They are so clueless to what is going on around them all the time, like 24/7? They have to open their eyes and look, then they will see the Matrix we all live in!

Eh, what?

Cheers,
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Edited by badeskov, 09 September 2012 - 04:30 AM.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 04:36 AM

View Postbadeskov, on 09 September 2012 - 04:29 AM, said:

Watts is indeed the unit of power, however, it makes no sense as a measure for thrust. That he uses that measure tells me that he in fact himself does not know, as anybody versed in or working with engines, be they regular rocket engines or more advanced plasma engines, would know. They never use such terms. In fact, it tells you nothing and it is meaningless in this context. That basically tells me that I have no not need to take it up with him. Quite obviously, in fact.

I deny nothing. I merely point out that you read something you did not understand, by somebody that clearly did not understand it either. And you take that as gospel and that is why you, again and again, end up in a hole of your own making.



You deny nothing; you deny everything.  Whenever you make one of those bald statements as if you are the fount of all knowledge, I immediately negate it in my mind and change it around to its opposite meaning.

I know that you will try to negate absolutely everything I say, so then I automatically negate the negation in my own dialectical reasoning, and therefore hope to arrive at something like the truth.


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Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:27 AM

View Postufonuts, on 09 September 2012 - 04:25 AM, said:

40 Years?????, Duh, most normal Human Beings already know Aliens exist, how Moronic is this guy?

What is wrong with some people? They are so clueless to what is going on around them all the time, like 24/7? They have to open their eyes and look, then they will see the Matrix we all live in!

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 09 September 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

Now that's the most sensible thing I've heard all day, aside from my own posts of course!

I like you "TheMacGuffin" you have a good head on your shoulders!!!

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 01:41 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 09 September 2012 - 04:36 AM, said:

You deny nothing; you deny everything.  Whenever you make one of those bald statements as if you are the fount of all knowledge, I immediately negate it in my mind and change it around to its opposite meaning.

Again, I deny nothing. I simply refuse to accept the leaps of faith and misconstruing that you seem more than willing to engage in to keep your UFO=ET fantasy alive. It is that simple. Bring me some evidence where you don't have to put words into people's mouths to further your case and maybe then I would be interested. Until then, you are just another one of those UFO believers willing to accept anything as long as it is in line with your pet fantasy.

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I know that you will try to negate absolutely everything I say, so then I automatically negate the negation in my own dialectical reasoning, and therefore hope to arrive at something like the truth.

Maybe because while a lot of what you post is interesting, you always have to glue the ET explanation onto it at all costs - or almost always. To you credit I have indeed seen you be skeptical.

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