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'TRAGIC MILESTONE' - 1000 US troops dead


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#1    Talon

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 10:00 AM

'TRAGIC MILESTONE' FOR US

The American military has suffered its 1,000th death in Iraq.    

The Pentagon said 998 US troops had been killed in Iraq along with three civilian employees of the Defence Department.


About 6,916 US troops have been wounded in the 18-month war, according to the latest Pentagon figures.    

The majority of those killed have died since the American president declared an end to major combat in May last year.  

George Bush's Democratic rival John Kerry - a decorated Vietnam War veteran - called it "a tragic milestone".    

The majority of Americans have been killed in attacks by insurgents.    

Deaths among Marines have surged in recent weeks. In June, 42 US troops were killed, a month later it was 54 while in August it had increased to 66.    

The US claims it has killed 2,500 insurgents in the last month.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-13217443,00.html

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 10:49 AM


Sigh......and the total will just keep on rising, more and more death will surround us. So much life wasted, war , its just another word for murder!!!


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Posted 08 September 2004 - 12:47 PM

QUOTE(AztecInca @ Sep 8 2004, 07:49 AM)
So much life wasted, war , its just another word for murder!!!

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Although there is murder in all wars, war itself is not murder. To murder is to kill another human being unlawfully, which unfortunately is being done by the terrorists when they kill innocent people, such as civilians and children.

However, in the conventional scheme of things, war is a neccessary evil. Two or more nations don't sit at a table and just decide to go to war. One or more sides attack one or more other nations. The nation(s) being attacked must either kill in defending their homeland, or willingly give up their land, which in turn will create murder from the occupying force on the citizens.

So to say that war itself is murder is not only very irresponsible, but also very stupid.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 12:56 PM

The only way I will not vote for Bush in the upcoming election is if I see Homer on the Ballot.

HOMER FOR PRESIDENT!!!

*insensitive comment edited by joc*

Edited by joc, 08 September 2004 - 11:27 PM.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 01:08 PM

I thought you wanted Bush for president huh.gif laugh.gif

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 01:15 PM

Homer, go explain that to the thousands of families that are grieving right now. I am sure it will be very comforting for them...

joc, it is an easy thing for you to say. Perhaps if you were to lose someone close to you, you might have a change of heart. Maybe not...I don't know, but I do know that was incredibly insensitive thing to say even for you.

Edited by Fluffybunny, 08 September 2004 - 01:18 PM.

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Sep 8 2004, 10:15 AM)
Homer, go explain that to the thousands of families that are grieving right now. I am sure it will be very comforting for them...

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Fluffybunny,
I know people are grieving, but that's not the issue. Many of the people that died in Iraq(and elsewhere) were murdered. I personally have been in 4 combat operations and have been to the Middle East many times. I know what's it's like to lose someone close.
However, that's not the issue, or the purpose of my previous post. The issue is whether war itself is murder. I did not say I support or didn't support the war. What I did say was that war itself is not murder, but that murder unfortunately occurs in wars.



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Posted 08 September 2004 - 02:11 PM

998 at least, oficially....a lot more if you count the "friendly fire" and "accidents" .....the Pentagon is very good hiding casualties.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 02:17 PM

Some wars are fought for good, but all wars lead to another.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 02:49 PM

You make good sense. Go Homer thumbsup.gif

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 03:26 PM

You know the media was just waiting for the day they could use the headline '1,000 Troops Dead'.  rolleyes.gif



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Posted 08 September 2004 - 03:49 PM

QUOTE(Kellalor @ Sep 8 2004, 04:26 PM)
You know the media was just waiting for the day they could use the headline '1,000 Troops Dead'.  rolleyes.gif

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Yeah, I'm sure they were on the edge of their seats.


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Posted 08 September 2004 - 05:28 PM

Has nothing to do with Iraq, but 1000 dead in around a year - I was in battles in Vietnam where there were more than 1000 killed in two or three days!  War is not a safe occupation, my brothers and sisters-in-arms knew this when they held up their hands to take the oath of enlistment.  Hopefully someone will get us out of this "New Vietnam" soon! disgust.gif

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE(Kellalor @ Sep 8 2004, 04:26 PM)
You know the media was just waiting for the day they could use the headline '1,000 Troops Dead'.  rolleyes.gif

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.....uh huh. and i'm guessing the democrats were hoping 1000 dead would be reached before the election date.  wacko.gif
the sad thing about the headline "1000 troops dead" is, it was probably allready written the day after iraq was invaded  sad.gif
and homer's argument about war not being murder is moot.
your fellow americans are dying to make bush and his gang wealthier, that's it, that's all.
the families of the dead soldiers, lose their sons and daughters, whether it's murder or not, it doesn't really matter.
that it was never necessary does.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 05:48 PM


I'd love to see President Bush make a draft next year if he's elected. See how Babs and the rest of you talk when it's YOUR father, brother, son, husband etc that's been killed needlessly in another country because your president says it's right for the good of a different country.





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