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Guns are part of the American identity


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#31    AsteroidX

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:37 PM

Ill keep my GUN thank you. If you dont like it no need to respond.


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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:38 PM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 21 December 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

The great American lie is that they are exporting freedom to the world - when in fact they are bullying countries to do it the American way or no way.
Bastion of freedom and liberator of the oppressed - its about time the worlds policeman started behaving itself in a civilized manner.

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Not only this. They really don't care if a country is a dictatorship or not, as long as said country plays ball with them economically. 'Freedom' matters not.


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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:42 PM

Sure looks like stupidity is part of the American Identity, as well, judging by this thread. Any excuse to have a gun.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:45 PM

I think what should be the 'identity' of America when it comes to guns is that we can be mature about our gun ownership... Which many Americans cannot and see them as toys.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

Its all about money and corrupted politicians otherwise Guns would be banned long time ago.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

I think the identity of America should be changed


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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:49 PM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 21 December 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

The simple facts of the American homicide rate really puts all this freedom **** into context - free to kill innocents (easily). Free to be afraid that the next time you have a falling out with a stranger you could easily end up dead.
Freedom is a much abused word and the American love of guns has done nothing to prevent a slide into tyranny - you have already arrived. Its time to grow up and stop living the frontiers man outlaw lifestyle.

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Our murder rate is so high cause of gangs and illegals. People who dont own guns legaly. Law abiding gun owners dont live a "outlaw" lifestyle. No wonder so many folks hate gun ownership. You believe several out right lies regarding it.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:50 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 21 December 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

Ill keep my GUN thank you. If you dont like it no need to respond.
A culture who refuses to mature will surely keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.
Look at the price you pay daily to maintain this "freedom".

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:51 PM

View Postpreacherman76, on 21 December 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

Our murder rate is so high cause of gangs and illegals. People who dont own guns legaly. Law abiding gun owners dont live a "outlaw" lifestyle. No wonder so many folks hate gun ownership. You believe several out right lies regarding it.
All cultures have gangs and illegals - its the freely available guns which produce the homicides.
A very weak argument.

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The darker the blue the higher the homicide rate, America is on a par with African countries who are in active conflict zones. Terrible statistics.

http://en.wikipedia....l_homicide_rate

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Edited by Br Cornelius, 21 December 2012 - 03:59 PM.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:52 PM

Home of the brave....Hm...look like brave sleep with guns under pillows...wait a minute...is that brave?

Edited by the L, 21 December 2012 - 04:02 PM.

JFK: "And we are as a people, inherently and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:52 PM

View Postthe L, on 21 December 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

Its all about money and corrupted politicians otherwise Guns would be banned long time ago.

Neither money nor corruption had anything to do with the founders writting the second amendment. The government has no authority to ban guns. Man damn near everything I read from you gun haters is a out right lie.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:53 PM

Even those that have a "Lawless" lifestyle should be included here. You think this Government is gonna roll over and say ok. take what you want ....Expand your horizon don't hate just because someone has lived a different life with different opportunities.

There actually  akin to an inner cities militia. Just a criminal element to em that's all. Granted there's bad apples on every tree.

Edited by AsteroidX, 21 December 2012 - 03:54 PM.


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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:53 PM

View PostRender, on 21 December 2012 - 06:51 AM, said:

That's the key sentence there.
These Americans think of themselves as vigilantes. Having to take matters into their own hands. The cause of a lot of problems.
The world isn't a Hollywood movie...
You are wrong.  I have no idea where you're from but likely you have never gone out target shooting or hunting, the pupose for which a good 90% of handguns and rifles are purchased.


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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:55 PM

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:58 PM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 21 December 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

All cultures have gangs and illegals - its the freely available guns which produce the homicides.
A very weak argument.

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BS. over 80% of gun related crime is gang activity. You folks are amazing. You cant have a real truthful discussion, so your hate leads you to just believe what ever crap that you can come up with. I mean you actualy said folks like myself are "living the frontiers man outlaw lifestyle". That to me means you have no intentions of looking at this subject rationaly, and just say whatever dumb ass thing you can think of.

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